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... I showed them Charlie's medical history notes (which is a little novel) and all his bills :clap:

They are accountants so they calculate all the bills, and worked out that it's much much cheaper to buy from a registered breeder.

Two friends of mine having been interested in getting puppies, and they keep asking me questions. They are to lazy to talk to breeders, thinking it's hard work etc. They just want to get a puppy ASAP... they don't care if it's from a pet store or byb (they won't rescue)

After a long and frustrating discussion, I thought I will get them where it would hurt and that's their hip pocket... I pulled out Charlie's medicial history notes, and took out all the medicial bills that I've paid and then told the ongoing medicine I have to get for Charlie. It freaked them out!

Safe to say, they are now strolling through DOL for proper breeders!!

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Well done

But I hope you do not have them thinking they will not have vet bills

Even registered dogs can have issues. My registered bitch has cost me over $8000.00, then I stopped counting

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Good thinking. Nothing like imagining the old hip pocket being hit.

Our 10+ yr old purebred girl was rushed to the vet hospital last weekend for getting some rawhide stuck in her gullet (my fault for giving it!).

They gave her a swag of tests because she was needing a general anaesthetic...& she's a senior dog.

First, the vets said going just by her appearance, they couldn't believe she was 10 years old.

Then they said, from the results of the tests, she was in perfect health....& amazing for 10 yrs.

They started to congratulate me. But I pointed out she was a purebred from a bloodline where the registered breeders knew what they were doing for high chance of producing an all-round sound dog.

Unusual?

Well no....our late elderly dog of the same breed, had not one vet problem (apart from one tooth taken out as a senior) in her entire life.

And before that, our purebred of another breed, had that same record. Never a vet problem in her entire life, until she got a touch of arthritis at age 14 yrs. Once again, from damn good registered breeders who knew what they were doing...which upped the chances of soundness.

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thats why I made my dogs website rememberdiesel.webs.com

Just had a look at the websitw.. I will be forwarding it to everyone that I know who is a wantng to bred or buy from a pet shop..

Out of curiosity, did diesel get his wings? :clap:

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Well done

But I hope you do not have them thinking they will not have vet bills

Even registered dogs can have issues. My registered bitch has cost me over $8000.00, then I stopped counting

I told them nothing is 100% but it's safer due to the fact that they will meet the pup's parents and have better clue on the health of the pup's parents. Instead of leaving those boxes unticked.. (like i had to do with Charlie).

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Good thinking. Nothing like imagining the old hip pocket being hit.

Our 10+ yr old purebred girl was rushed to the vet hospital last weekend for getting some rawhide stuck in her gullet (my fault for giving it!).

They gave her a swag of tests because she was needing a general anaesthetic...& she's a senior dog.

First, the vets said going just by her appearance, they couldn't believe she was 10 years old.

Then they said, from the results of the tests, she was in perfect health....& amazing for 10 yrs.

They started to congratulate me. But I pointed out she was a purebred from a bloodline where the registered breeders knew what they were doing for high chance of producing an all-round sound dog.

Unusual?

Well no....our late elderly dog of the same breed, had not one vet problem (apart from one tooth taken out as a senior) in her entire life.

And before that, our purebred of another breed, had that same record. Never a vet problem in her entire life, until she got a touch of arthritis at age 14 yrs. Once again, from damn good registered breeders who knew what they were doing...which upped the chances of soundness.

Wow.. that's awesome!!

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Your story with Charlie would make a good one for the media, I think. Not so much about Vet bills because I agree with the other poster that it shouldn't be thought that purchasing a purebreed is going to absolve one from needing a Vet at any time. But a story on not knowing parentage etc. etc. and that things aren't always roses, and so on.

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Unusual?

Well no....our late elderly dog of the same breed, had not one vet problem (apart from one tooth taken out as a senior) in her entire life.

And before that, our purebred of another breed, had that same record. Never a vet problem in her entire life, until she got a touch of arthritis at age 14 yrs. Once again, from damn good registered breeders who knew what they were doing...which upped the chances of soundness.

My highlights.

Don't wish to rain on the parade, Mita, but do wish I could have your good fortune. My two dogs - same breed, different lines, both purebred - both with papers. And I've had countless (different) health issues with both of them.

There will be many different stories - many more to support the purebred fraternity and many more to support the other. But, with the purebreeds and with purchasing through a breeder of good repute, you at least have a chance of knowing the parents, their parentage, and potentially having a base to return to for information and/or help.

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Don't wish to rain on the parade, Mita, but do wish I could have your good fortune. My two dogs - same breed, different lines, both purebred - both with papers. And I've had countless (different) health issues with both of them.

There will be many different stories - many more to support the purebred fraternity and many more to support the other. But, with the purebreeds and with purchasing through a breeder of good repute, you at least have a chance of knowing the parents, their parentage, and potentially having a base to return to for information and/or help.

Erny, you can see why I answered, very carefully, the vets who remarked on the extraodinary good health of our 10 yr old.

I didn't say, it's because she's purebred. I said it's because she's a purebred from damn good registered breeders who up the chances of a dog being sound. I highlighted 'upping the chances' to show that there can still be mischance in what's produced.

When we went looking for our purbred breeds of choice....we researched the breeders as much as the breed.

One of those registered breeders recently offered us another adult dog....needless to say, I jumped at it.

I follow the route where the chances are higher for soundness. But that doesn't mean mischances are eliminated. Just lowered.

I'm sorry for your experience. It's not just the money, is it. It's hard for an owner to see their dog suffer from medical problems.

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When we went looking for our purbred breeds of choice....we researched the breeders as much as the breed.

I think that this is key. In my opinion, when you shell out for a purebred dog, what you are paying for is the breeders knowhow, both in breeding the dog, and the lifetime of support they offer you. When you consider all that you get for the price, a registered purebred dog from an excellent and amicable breeder is terrific value for money.

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When you consider all that you get for the price, a registered purebred dog from an excellent and amicable breeder is terrific value for money.

I agree.

And that includes all the on-going advice that those kind of registered breeders generously offer.

Like, I'm off now to get the opinions from the best Oz & international breeders re safety of dog chews after our scarey experience.

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Your story with Charlie would make a good one for the media, I think. Not so much about Vet bills because I agree with the other poster that it shouldn't be thought that purchasing a purebreed is going to absolve one from needing a Vet at any time. But a story on not knowing parentage etc. etc. and that things aren't always roses, and so on.

It's very very important to know the health of the pup's parents before buying the pup. I learnt that with Charlie. The specialist and vets kept asking us about his parents health, and the person we got Charlie off, didn't know much either. Having answers like 'Oh, i don't know' and 'have no idea' and 'N/A'... doesn't help anyone to help solve Charlie's problems. Made things a little bit harder, really.

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Absolutely agree that there can be the same chances of getting a dog with medical issues from an ethical, registered breeder - we are dealing with living creatures and sometimes, despite all the careful planning & precautions in the world, things go wrong... however, the difference is that most ethical registered breeders will stand by the dogs they breed, guarantee their pups and offer a lifetime of support.

If you choose to buy a petshop/BYB puppy, then the buck stops with you forever more. No-one involved with supplying you that puppy cares about your sick dog down the track; there are no guarantees, and no support.

Well done CW, hope your friends end up with a beautiful, healthy, well bred puppy :D

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Well done CW.

I did my bit today. The clother dryer fixit man came and of course I heard the dogs bark so I knew he was at the door.

Got him in without any escapes. :laugh:

He said he was used to dogs.

Asked later if he hada dog and said no but was going to get one when he moved to Geelong.

Said he was thinking of getting a cav.

Gave a speil on BYB and told him to keep my number and give me a ring when he was ready so i could point him in the right direction.

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Well done CW.

I did my bit today. The clother dryer fixit man came and of course I heard the dogs bark so I knew he was at the door.

Got him in without any escapes. :rofl:

He said he was used to dogs.

Asked later if he hada dog and said no but was going to get one when he moved to Geelong.

Said he was thinking of getting a cav.

Gave a speil on BYB and told him to keep my number and give me a ring when he was ready so i could point him in the right direction.

that's awesome BB!

:laugh:

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