Proposed New Victorian Dog Laws Dead Wrong

[APBT Club of Aust Inc.]

All the provisions in these proposed amendments are very extreme and in our opinion could only be put up by someone that hates dogs.

Edited June 19, 2010 by APBT Club of Aust Inc.

[lmwvic]

I have just finished reading the Parliamentary Library Research Brief and I am astonished at the misleading and incorrect information in it!

I clearly have assumed incorrectly that Parliamentary Library Research Briefs would be sound and unbiased research. I'm furious at the inaccuracies and false information.

It is also very interesting that the Research Brief has disappeared from the Parliamentary Website. Why?

[sumosmum]

Just bumping for any Victorian dog owners who may not be aware of what is going on with the proposed Dog Laws. People need to be made aware of this. We are all entitled to have our say on these matters.

[anniek]

So, are we all heading off to the public gallery on Tuesday?

[sumosmum]

So, are we all heading off to the public gallery on Tuesday?

Now there's an idea, although it could be on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday I guess.

[Erny]

So, are we all heading off to the public gallery on Tuesday?

LOL .... what, and we'd have to sit there listening to what they say but would be effectively gagged?!!! ..... I don't think I could stand it !!! You would need to gaffa tape me and bind my wrists and ankles!! It will be enough to be viewing them on their online TV via my computer. At least I'll be able to verbilise my frustrations (or tribulations, perhaps ). At least I can have a drink in hand whilst I am watching them.

I was informed by Parliament staffer that on Tuesday is when business is normally set (don't think they are the correct words - they have so much jargon it's difficult to keep up with) and that they may have an idea of where on the list of business (or whatever) the Bill is come 4pm Tuesday.

[anniek]

So, are we all heading off to the public gallery on Tuesday?

LOL .... what, and we'd have to sit there listening to what they say but would be effectively gagged?!!! ..... I don't think I could stand it !!! You would need to gaffa tape me and bind my wrists and ankles!! It will be enough to be viewing them on their online TV via my computer. At least I'll be able to verbilise my frustrations (or tribulations, perhaps ). At least I can have a drink in hand whilst I am watching them.

I was informed by Parliament staffer that on Tuesday is when business is normally set (don't think they are the correct words - they have so much jargon it's difficult to keep up with) and that they may have an idea of where on the list of business (or whatever) the Bill is come 4pm Tuesday.

oh dear - you'd better reach for the BP pills.

we could take our dogs with us

Can you please share the " online TV via my computer" link.

[sumosmum]

So, are we all heading off to the public gallery on Tuesday?

LOL .... what, and we'd have to sit there listening to what they say but would be effectively gagged?!!! ..... I don't think I could stand it !!! You would need to gaffa tape me and bind my wrists and ankles!! It will be enough to be viewing them on their online TV via my computer. At least I'll be able to verbilise my frustrations (or tribulations, perhaps ). At least I can have a drink in hand whilst I am watching them.

I was informed by Parliament staffer that on Tuesday is when business is normally set (don't think they are the correct words - they have so much jargon it's difficult to keep up with) and that they may have an idea of where on the list of business (or whatever) the Bill is come 4pm Tuesday.

oh dear - you'd better reach for the BP pills.

we could take our dogs with us

Can you please share the " online TV via my computer" link.

annieK, this is the link to watch live,

Parliament of Vic live broadcast link

You need to click on the Accept button to accpet the terms before you can watch it.

The Accept button is towards the right hand side of the page.

[Erny]

Have sent the most recent (8 page) letter I prepared (with corrective edits - thanks to those who helped with them ) to the 78 or so MLA's, this evening. Marked "urgent".

AnnieK - I meant to give you a call today to thank you for the photo's you took of Mandela. I really appreciate them. I will try to give you a call early in the week .

Edited June 20, 2010 by Erny

[Erny]

Please don't give up on this now, anyone. Letters, if you haven't done any (or have more to add) even at this stage of the game can prove to be helpful. After all, if we relied on the assumption that the proposed Bill would be read when originally scheduled, we all would have stopped trying back on 20th May. Since then there continues to be many communications to Government objecting to the laws within the proposed Bill - more, I think, than the Labour Government originally thought the proposed Bill would attract. In fact, I think they might have thought it was going to be smooth sailing for this Bill through Parliament, not realising how crazy, wrong and extraordinarily problematic and unfair these laws will be if they were passed.

So, boring as I know it all is (I have better and more fun things to do too), please make the effort to write in. I think you'll be pleased that you have, once you've done it .

As I have mentioned before, if anyone wants me to send them my most recent letter (it refers to the recently revealed Parliamentary Research Brief and is 8 pages long, a bit too much to copy/paste here) PM me with your email and I'll send it.

Either this letter will help you understand the possible impact of some of the laws proposed within the Bill so that you can more easily form your own letter, or you may write a short covering letter confirming your objections to the proposed Bill being passed by Government and asking for answers to the questions raised in "the attached letter". Or both :D.

[Erny]

I was going to put up the link to the "Members of Legislative Assembly Contact List". I've put it up once or twice in this thread, but figured to make things easier to find, I'd put it up again.

I noticed the link doesn't work any more. Another "404" message. Like the one that occurred to the Parliamentary Research Brief paper, link. There one moment, gone the next.

Coincidental?

:D

Edited June 21, 2010 by Erny

[sumosmum]

I was going to put up the link to the "Members of Legislative Assembly Contact List". I've put it up once or twice in this thread, but figured to make things easier to find, I'd put it up again.

I noticed the link doesn't work any more. Another "404" message. Like the one that occurred to the Parliamentary Research Brief paper, link. There one moment, gone the next.

Coincidental?

:D

This link may be helpful. The information can be refined via the options at the bottom of the page.

List of Email addresses LA Vic Parliament

[Erny]

Good one, Sumosmum

ETA: This is not the full list of MLA's though? There are 78 Members in the list I have.

:D

Edited June 21, 2010 by Erny

[Erny]

Please don't give up on this now, anyone. Letters, if you haven't done any (or have more to add) even at this stage of the game can prove to be helpful. After all, if we relied on the assumption that the proposed Bill would be read when originally scheduled, we all would have stopped trying back on 20th May. Since then there continues to be many communications to Government objecting to the laws within the proposed Bill - more, I think, than the Labour Government originally thought the proposed Bill would attract. In fact, I think they might have thought it was going to be smooth sailing for this Bill through Parliament, not realising how crazy, wrong and extraordinarily problematic and unfair these laws will be if they were passed.

So, boring as I know it all is (I have better and more fun things to do too), please make the effort to write in. I think you'll be pleased that you have, once you've done it .

As I have mentioned before, if anyone wants me to send them my most recent letter (it refers to the recently revealed Parliamentary Research Brief and is 8 pages long, a bit too much to copy/paste here) PM me with your email and I'll send it.

Either this letter will help you understand the possible impact of some of the laws proposed within the Bill so that you can more easily form your own letter, or you may write a short covering letter confirming your objections to the proposed Bill being passed by Government and asking for answers to the questions raised in "the attached letter". Or both ;).

*BUMP* .... there's still time ;)

to the efforts made thus far. Good onya guys. You all know who you are .

[kateshep]

I was disappointed , my post on specialistcanines was completely ignored, so I am hoping as some members on that forum frequent DOL and probably already have seen this thread and sent their letters in.

I too got a email response from Joanne Duncan and sent a reply back.

Erny I sent you a PM re your letter.

[Erny]

I was disappointed , my post on specialistcanines was completely ignored, so I am hoping as some members on that forum frequent DOL and probably already have seen this thread and sent their letters in. ;)

Maybe people there think this is something that doesn't and won't affect them, because they are not in Victoria. The danger is that if it comes to Victoria it can more easily spread interstate.

I too got a email response from Joanne Duncan and sent a reply back.

Good onya, Kateshep .

Erny I sent you a PM re your letter.

Have responded ;)

Good work, all .

Cheers

Erny

Edited June 21, 2010 by Erny

[APBT Club of Aust Inc.]

List of MLA's & email addresses

I had seperated them as it didn't like too many sent at once.

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[Casster17]

I too have PM'd you Erny

[Erny]

Good work and thanks for that post, APBT. That will save people a lot of time/effort as I presume they can just do a copy/paste straight into their "To" (or "CC" or "BCC") box in their email? I've been using the "BCC" component and like you, I grouped them. If you send too many all at once, the system has a hissy fit and crashes. Not worth the risk of having to re-do it all. Learnt that the hard way .

There's still time, everyone .

Hey Casster17 ..... I've just emailed you ;).

Edited June 21, 2010 by Erny

[sumosmum]

List of MLA's & email addresses

I had seperated them as it didn't like too many sent at once.

[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]

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[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; lily.d'[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; michael.o'[email protected]; [email protected]

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Very helpful, thank you.