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[Rusky]

threads like this really give me the whoopsies, read the others and absolutley stayed away from them but now we have another ....

I am sorry but you have done nothing but compain about this poor puppy since you collected at the airport. Worms, bad breeding, bad breeder, frustrations, not bonding and using the "Milan on the telly" to guide your training. You have been rude without reason to excellent well respected posters and breeders. You ain't going to bond. I think the wee puppy should be returned to the breeder before you do any more damage ...hiding under the car is not naughty, chewing is not naughty. It is naughty not to let the poor pup eat in peace. So now is left in the garden when you are home..you are asking for trouble.

If you really want to improve things and start from the NOW then go to the dogstardaily website..download before and after you get a puppy...read it, absorb it and ask on here for a reputable puppy pre school for socialisation socialisation socialisation...oh and a little love wouldn't go amiss.

http://www.dogstardaily.com/

Send puppy here..lots of love to give

[Staffygirl88]

I didn't say anything about giving a pup away- i asked what you were doing differently. You can't do the same thing as with the last pup and expect a different result.

Maybe have a look at the tricks in the training forum and start teaching a few- tricks can help to speed a bond along a bit as can some puppy massage.

Sorry I'd been reading the other posts

It's a long story with the last pup I had but when he lived with me I never had a problem with him. It's complicated

I'll have a look and see what I can do with her. She's pretty good with the basics now, I'm teaching her roll over and crawl it's cute as

[Staffygirl88]

threads like this really give me the whoopsies, read the others and absolutley stayed away from them but now we have another ....

I am sorry but you have done nothing but compain about this poor puppy since you collected at the airport. Worms, bad breeding, bad breeder, frustrations, not bonding and using the "Milan on the telly" to guide your training. You have been rude without reason to excellent well respected posters and breeders. You ain't going to bond. I think the wee puppy should be returned to the breeder before you do any more damage ...hiding under the car is not naughty, chewing is not naughty. It is naughty not to let the poor pup eat in peace. So now is left in the garden when you are home..you are asking for trouble.

If you really want to improve things and start from the NOW then go to the dogstardaily website..download before and after you get a puppy...read it, absorb it and ask on here for a reputable puppy pre school for socialisation socialisation socialisation...oh and a little love wouldn't go amiss.

http://www.dogstardaily.com/

Send puppy here..lots of love to give

If my thread gives you the 'whoopsies' don't post or ignore my posts. No skin off my nose.

And if 'well respected posters and breeders' were not rude without reason to me then I wouldn't have been rude in return. You don't get respect by speaking down to people.

[WreckitWhippet]

If you want to show this puppy, you really need to build up the trust and have a strong bond. The puppy is going to be relying on you in the ring, epecially during those times when a pup can feel unsure about what is going on and what is being asked of it.

A pup that spends it's time alone in the back yard and has no real bond with it's owner, is going to struggle in the ring and a bad experience could ruin it.

Edited October 23, 2010 by ReadySetGo

[espinay2]

And if 'well respected posters and breeders' were not rude without reason to me then I wouldn't have been rude in return. You don't get respect by speaking down to people.

Seems to me all poodlefan was doing was asking a question which required you to examine your feelings for the pup. That is the point of starting the thread isn't it? To examine how you are feeling about the pup? Resentment is a normal emotion. Why are you getting so upset about it? You asked for advice and my advice is to look deeply inside yourself at what motivates your feelings towards your pup - those are the feelings which may be causing the 'lack of bonding'. If that advice upsets you (and I do understand that the natural reaction of people is sometimes to be defensive, as they may not actually want to look too deeply at their own emotions) maybe it is not really 'advice' you are after but some kind of reassurance that it simply will work out fine? In which case, you better change the title of the thread. It may all work out fine, but it may have a better chance of working if you are wiling to do some deep soul searching rather than arcing up when people try to help you look deeper for possible answers to your question.

[Staffygirl88]

If you want to show this puppy, you really need to build up the trust and have a strong bond. The puppy is going to be relying on you in the ring, epecially during those times when a pup can feel unsure about what is going on and what is being asked of it.

A pup that spends it's time alone in the back yard and has no real bond with it's owner, is going to struggle in the ring and a bad experience could ruin it.

She's not in the backyard on her own a lot at all. She's inside with me all day and only goes into her outside pen if I have to leave and can't take her with me, if she's going to be in the car for too long and it's not necessary I'll leave her at home. That probably happens 2-3 times a week and it's never all day.

[Staffygirl88]

And if 'well respected posters and breeders' were not rude without reason to me then I wouldn't have been rude in return. You don't get respect by speaking down to people.

Seems to me all poodlefan was doing was asking a question which required you to examine your feelings for the pup. That is the point of starting the thread isn't it? To examine how you are feeling about the pup? Resentment is a normal emotion. Why are you getting so upset about it? You asked for advice and my advice is to look deeply inside yourself at what motivates your feelings towards your pup - those are the feelings which may be causing the 'lack of bonding'. If that advice upsets you (and I do understand that the natural reaction of people is sometimes to be defensive, as they may not actually want to look too deeply at their own emotions) maybe it is not really 'advice' you are after but some kind of reassurance that it simply will work out fine? In which case, you better change the title of the thread. It may all work out fine, but it may have a better chance of working if you are wiling to do some deep soul searching rather than arcing up when people try to help you look deeper for possible answers to your question.

I didn't think that I sounded resentful about my pup destroying my house. I think I've dealt with it pretty well actually. I fixed up a pen for her that's safe and has nothing in it that she can destroy that I can get upset about. I'm only human and when my pup starts to eat the side of my house, I didn't jump for joy when I saw the damage but I didn't yell, I didn't punish her, I just cleaned up the wood and ignored her until I was calm again.

And to be honest, I think what motivates my feelings towards this pup is failure. I'm terrified of failing with her. And to me failing is getting to a stage where I have to give her away. She's not a bad puppy at all, when I first took her to puppy classes I realised that. She even fell asleep next to me while the other pups were going mental.

I just want her to grow up to be a social, happy, obedient and healthy adult dog. I'll do everything I can to make that happen.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to show a pup/dog?

[Diva]

. She's not a bad puppy at all, when I first took her to puppy classes I realised that. She even fell asleep next to me while the other pups were going mental.

I just want her to grow up to be a social, happy, obedient and healthy adult dog. I'll do everything I can to make that happen.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to show a pup/dog?

It sounds like ongoing group classes will be ideal for both of you.

For show advice, go to the Show Ring forum. Pinned at the top is a FAQs thread especially to help people new to showing. Your canine control should also have a page or two on how to start on their webpage. They should also be able to tell you where any local show classes are held.

Edited October 24, 2010 by Diva

[aussielover]

And if 'well respected posters and breeders' were not rude without reason to me then I wouldn't have been rude in return. You don't get respect by speaking down to people.

Seems to me all poodlefan was doing was asking a question which required you to examine your feelings for the pup. That is the point of starting the thread isn't it? To examine how you are feeling about the pup? Resentment is a normal emotion. Why are you getting so upset about it? You asked for advice and my advice is to look deeply inside yourself at what motivates your feelings towards your pup - those are the feelings which may be causing the 'lack of bonding'. If that advice upsets you (and I do understand that the natural reaction of people is sometimes to be defensive, as they may not actually want to look too deeply at their own emotions) maybe it is not really 'advice' you are after but some kind of reassurance that it simply will work out fine? In which case, you better change the title of the thread. It may all work out fine, but it may have a better chance of working if you are wiling to do some deep soul searching rather than arcing up when people try to help you look deeper for possible answers to your question.

I didn't think that I sounded resentful about my pup destroying my house. I think I've dealt with it pretty well actually. I fixed up a pen for her that's safe and has nothing in it that she can destroy that I can get upset about. I'm only human and when my pup starts to eat the side of my house, I didn't jump for joy when I saw the damage but I didn't yell, I didn't punish her, I just cleaned up the wood and ignored her until I was calm again.

And to be honest, I think what motivates my feelings towards this pup is failure. I'm terrified of failing with her. And to me failing is getting to a stage where I have to give her away. She's not a bad puppy at all, when I first took her to puppy classes I realised that. She even fell asleep next to me while the other pups were going mental.

I just want her to grow up to be a social, happy, obedient and healthy adult dog. I'll do everything I can to make that happen.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to show a pup/dog?

I think there are special show classes, like obedience classes but with a focus on all the things needed for showing, that you can enrol in.

Is your breeder going to help you with showing at all? often it helps to have a mentor.

Hopefully someone with show experience will be able to give you some better advice

[Staffygirl88]

I think there are special show classes, like obedience classes but with a focus on all the things needed for showing, that you can enrol in.

Is your breeder going to help you with showing at all? often it helps to have a mentor.

Hopefully someone with show experience will be able to give you some better advice

I will ask on Wednesday at the puppy class if they know of any classes specifically for show dogs because that sounds like a good idea.

I thought the breeder was going to help me. But she's been pretty nasty when I email her or call unless I'm just giving an update. If I ask for advice or ask questions they either don't get answered or I get 'I'm busy with pups' etc etc.

[Staffygirl88]

. She's not a bad puppy at all, when I first took her to puppy classes I realised that. She even fell asleep next to me while the other pups were going mental.

I just want her to grow up to be a social, happy, obedient and healthy adult dog. I'll do everything I can to make that happen.

Can anyone give me any advice on how to show a pup/dog?

It sounds like ongoing group classes will be ideal for both of you.

For show advice, go to the Show Ring forum. Pinned at the top is a FAQs thread especially to help people new to showing. Your canine control should also have a page or two on how to start on their webpage. They should also be able to tell you where any local show classes are held.

Thanks

Only problem with classes is getting someone to look after my little boy But if I can find a class suitable for us then I'll definitely work something out