juice Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 My BT has dry eye, she came with it from the breeder ( didn't tell me). She is currently on Panalog twice a day, and i use eye drops too to flush them out. However she really does suffer with it, she often grabs my hand when playing instead of the tug, and i was in the pool area yesterday and she stood looking around for me when i called her, i was only a few metres from her ,but knew she couldn't see me. Ihave heard there is an op that redirects the salivery glands? but very expensive too as its a specialist job. she is 5 now and i am wondering about how successful it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHRP Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Have you tried Optimmune ointment? It is expensive, but can work wonders for a dog with dry eye. I used it on my boy with good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 No i havn't, others have mentioned it too. May look at changing to see if it helps more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkhe Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 FHRP, do you know if Optimmune actually cure dry eye, or is it a treatment that the dog is likely to be on forever? Sorry to hijack, juice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puglvr Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Have you seen an eye specialist? Some times it's not he lack of tears lubricating the eye but rather The quality of the tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 We saw a diffent vet at my practice who specialises in eyes. Perhaps an eye specialist would be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretel Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yes I'd definitely see a specialist. Sometimes the Optimune can stimulate enough tear production so the dog doesn't need further treatment. I had a very young pup with virtually no tear production from either eye. After being on it for a while she started producing enough tears in one eye that it no longer needs treatment. The other eye improved a little but not enough and she still needs it in that eye. And I had an older dog who responded well to it and after about a year no longer needed any treatment. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisys Mum Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 My housemates Husky went to a eye Specialist and he put her on Optimune ... It's not cheap but it is compared to surgery, you also have to apply it religiously according to the Specialists recommended dose :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Have you tried Optimmune ointment? It is expensive, but can work wonders for a dog with dry eye. I used it on my boy with good results. I know a bully who used this, her eyes were shocking and this solved it - it was a forever thing Dads old Bulldog also used it, you could tell in hours if you missed a dose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I know its really expensive, my vets suggested Panalog first and it did work initially, but doesn't seem to be doing the same anymore and i work from home and do it religously. I think i will go back for another consult and ask for optimune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) The surgery (called a Parotid Duct Transposition) should be considered a last resort. Approx 80% of dogs get good results with this, 10% produce too much 'tears' and 10% still don't produce enough. Surgery is usually only performed if the drops don't work at all. It is a specialist procedure but they recover quickly. There is some after care/management involved following surgery. Panalog is not a cure for dry eye. It is simply lubricating the eyes. I would take the dog to see an eye specialist. Most cases of dry eye are immune mediated - the dog's immune system destroys the tissue that produces the tears. Cyclosporin (optimmune) will help the dog produce more tears by suppressing the immune system. At our clinic though, we prefer Tacrolimus. It is a bit more potent, causes less irritation and also reduces the corneal scarring caused by dry eye. Alkhe, there is no cure for dry eye. They need to be medicated for life. Even if the dog had surgery, the eyes generally need some medication afterwards. Edited December 7, 2012 by *kirty* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Thankyou Kirty, that explains it very well. Can you recommend a good eye specialist in Sydney? I think Mark ?from Sash was recommended to me? Edited December 7, 2012 by juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 There are very few eye specialists and they all know each other so pretty much anyone will be fine. I will ask at work if they recommend anyone in particular though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periannath Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 You can't go past Mark. He was recommended to me by Bruce who is the head of the ACES scheme. You and Bonnie will both like him :) SASH is also an easy place to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kirty* Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I spoke to the vets at work and they agreed that Mark is great. Good luck and let us know how you get on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 I am just waiting for some Optimmune to arrive, but in the meantime the vets mixed me up some Cyclosporin drops. I will go and see Mark, just can't afford it this side of xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 I just wanted to ask, this morning when i gave Bonn the drops she kept her eye's closed for a bit and squinted, then tonight afterwards she started to try and scratch at her eye's with her paw. Does this mean its hurting her? they are the cyclosporin drops the vet made up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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