Kavik Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 And if you are serious, you probably don't have to have done obedience first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarka Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 While we're on it, does anyone know of any Sydney clubs other than the Western Sydney Sportdog Club? Horsley Park is a bit far from Newtown. Cheers, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBailey Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I Used to work in a boarding kennel that is owened by rotti breeders. They used to do all sorts of things with there dogs. I did not agree with sutzund either untill it was explained to me properly. I read a training book about it and acuttully found there methods to be a lot nicer to the do than thoses of my previuos obediance club. As for finding pictures and decent info try the boxer club. If they cant help you then try one of the others such as the rotti club or the dob club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinwar Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 no obedience training is required to start schutzhund they will teach u as u go along with there obedience classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 more common in europe not much here, it is a very dedicated and large task to undertake for you and your dog, and given the current aust laws, would proberly recommend other dog sports instead will give you the same satisation, for you and your dog, plus only a certain percentage of dogs have the temperment to complete all tasks required successullly. good luck with whatever you choose to do gandalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristina Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I totally agree with it and it's not dangerous when done right. Like Haven said, there's bad and there's good. Also not all dogs are suited to it, the dog needs to be mentally strong to deal with certain pressure put on it. You dont' want a dog that will bark it's head off only to be confronted and then run away.... I do it with my shep and no way is he dangerous in public, i take him training with me and everyone is all over him and he loves it all, but at the same time, he also doesn't have the mental strength needed, hence why i'm not doing any more with him instead getting a working one, which was bred for it. Boxargirl, if you want to try it, look around at different clubs, which state are you in? Pm if in vic and i can give you some contacts. I dont' have any pics of my 'mutt', but it's awesome to watch and even better to be holding that lead. Doing anything like this with your dog, builds a big bond between the two and this sport also gives you high levels of control of your dog, you have to have it otherwise you will end up with problems. So choose the club wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Tarka - Im affraid thats the only one, or there is one is Wollongong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyvernblade Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 When I was looking for a breeder, I only looked at dogs that were shutzhund titled at least to level II. I would love to do it with my pup when he's old enough, as far as I'm aware it's basically the highest level of obedience you can do. I'm in Melbourne and would be interested to know if anyone knows of any Melbourne sportsdog clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 For those of you that are interested in schutzhund, I highly recommend that you take a look at K9 Force's threads on working in drive and also socialisation and neutralisation. They were not written specifically for schutzhund dogs, but if you have the opportunity to start with a puppy you want to ensure adequate socialisation and start drive development as early as possible. If you have an older dog it is still important to understand drives and start to develop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinwar Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 http://eagleheights.hypermart.net/ thats a club that does schutzhund in melb.. one of the members handled last years national schutzhund champion here are a few more melb places Broadmeadows & Districts Schutzhund Club Inc Melbourne Schutzhund Club Inc Southern Cross K9 Inc Southern United Sportdog Club Inc Total Canine Sporting Club Inc the other places u can do schutzhund in nsw are Illawarra & District Schutzhund Assoc Working Rottweiler Club Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EISHUND Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 (edited) no obedience training is required to start schutzhund they will teach u as u go along with there obedience classes... Malinwar that's great to hear!! I spose i think it would take the attention off my dog a little if had her squared up with obedience first.. being a white shep, we often get frowned upon. My male is awesome at obedience, shows a natural abiltiy for tracking, but he wouldn't cut it as a Schutzhund dog temperament wise.. Too soft. I have a 3 yr old bitch as well, imported from the states that has a heap of SchIII in her pedigree. But i think it would be easier to focus on one dog and just take my younger girl. She is 10mths old, does that matter? Trial and error, if she's not suited i can always try my other girl.. eta- what would you recommend? Edited January 3, 2006 by Luv my White Shepherd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinwar Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i would suggest going down to your local schutzhund club and talking with one of trainers first, then they will set aside some time to do an assesment with your dog there are puppy classes for people who want to do schutzhund so ur pup can start learning from as young as 8 weeks old theres also been a few older dogs starting at 5 yrs old and they have done really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EISHUND Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 i would suggest going down to your local schutzhund club and talking with one of trainers first, then they will set aside some time to do an assesment with your dog there are puppy classes for people who want to do schutzhund so ur pup can start learning from as young as 8 weeks old theres also been a few older dogs starting at 5 yrs old and they have done really well Great advice Malinwar. Horsley Park would be the closet to me. Even closer now because of the new M7!! How do they assess the dogs and what do they look for? Sorry 'bout all the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinwar Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 they wont be expecting too much, they will just be looking for a happy and confident dog it depends on who does the asessment on the dog to what they do, the dog shouldnt be put under any pressure they will mainly just be playing with the dog and seeing how it reacts to various situations if the dog is already highly playfull it would be a start otherwise theres a little bit of extra work trying to build up the dogs prey/play drives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EISHUND Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Cool.. doesn't sound too daunting. Thanks for the quick reply.. hmmm, may just have to get down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellahar Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Great sport to get into I have been doing it for only 6 mths the dogs love it. nothing better than watching a well trained dog do this sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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