[Elkie1]

✽deelee, on 17th Nov 2009 - 01:01 PM, said:

What are they like with other dogs?
Are they gregarious or do they have a tendency to ignore them?

From personal experience,

My sister has a cross bred dog who gets along with all my elkies. My recent little puppy (5 months of age) loves nothing better then to play with all his puppy friends in sweepstakes

We also have a bitch, socialised the same way all our elkies have been but since she had a urine infection as a young puppy, around the time when a dog lashed out at her and resulted in her splitting her ear open, she will not get along with anyother dog now. She is happiest on her own. But she loves greeting people in the comfort of her own enviroment.

This post has been edited by Elkie1: 18 November 2009 - 06:11 AM

[Norskgra]

Removed - Not worth it.

This post has been edited by Norskgra: 17 November 2009 - 05:53 PM

[Elkie1]

Another thing Norwegian Elkhounds can suffer from is sebaceous cysts. Luckily only one of mine has had one, and was easy to remove.

In experience, some elkhound can be allergice to different foods. an elkhound I know is allergice to beef products and Odin-Genie, Odin is allergice to Chicken products.

This post has been edited by Elkie1: 17 November 2009 - 07:07 PM

[all that glitters]

Was interested in a Elkie for my 2nd dog but have crossed them off the list cos of their tendency to bark

I will have to admire pics!

[Norskgra]

~ShelleAndShyla~, on 17th Nov 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

Was interested in a Elkie for my 2nd dog but have crossed them off the list cos of their tendency to bark

I will have to admire pics!

Ours only bark if someone is around the house.

[Elkie1]

~ShelleAndShyla~, on 17th Nov 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

Was interested in a Elkie for my 2nd dog but have crossed them off the list cos of their tendency to bark

I will have to admire pics!

Unfortunantly that is one of their bad traits as the elkhound barks to alert the hunter to the prey (Elk, Bear, Deer) - it is built into them - . The elkhound is quite an intelligent dog and you can teach the elkhound not to bark. Infact, mine only bark at the postman or anyone coming into the property who should not be their.

Although quiet most of the time at home, If there is a reason to bark they will bark.

funny though, two of mine never bark at shows and are probably the most quiet elkies at any show however, their mother barks at shows all the time.

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[mersonmalinois]

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 05:25 PM, said:

mersonmalinois, on 17th Nov 2009 - 02:26 PM, said:

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 06:20 AM, said:

Norskgra, on 16th Nov 2009 - 09:24 AM, said:

12. When buying a puppy, what are the things you should ask of the breeder? (eg what health tests have been done (if applicable) and what is an acceptable result to those tests so the buyer has an idea of what the result should be)[/b]

Health testing is not compulsory for Elkhounds. There are only about three breeders that carry out any health tests. Elkhounds should be tested for HD, have their eyes tested and also their kidneys. There is no known test for Familian Renal problems but Elkhounds can hace their kidneys tested, preferably once a year to ensure that there is not any kidney problems. It is very hard to give an idea on what health testing results should be when only three, maybe 4 breeders actually carry out testing. Obviously, the lower the hip scores the better. I prefer to work on a maximum of 1:1. A few breeders say that they have never had any problems but how do you know if the dogs have not been tested and also why wait until there is a problem?

This statement is a bit harsh don't you think? Where is the proof that only 3 maybe 4 breeders do testing?
with this statement, you are publicly attacking other fellow elkhound breeders - This is a public forum

Are you serious elkie1? Norskgra didn't attack anyone. She was letting people know that some breeders don't test and that is a VERY important point to share with prospective puppy buyers/Elkhound fanciers. Telling the truth isn't "harsh".

I think Norskgra should be thanked for sharing this information.

We'll in that case, maybe she should have wrote "To my knowledge"

That's obvious, isn't it? I always appreciate those who know a breed well sharing about health and what testings should be done for their breed. It lets buyers know to be informed and to make wise decisions when choosing a breeder/puppy.

I don't understand why you are jumping her in this thread elkie1. How about embracing your fellow breeder for her dedication to health instead of scolding her for no reason? I don't understand why you are doing that.

[Elkie1]

mersonmalinois, on 17th Nov 2009 - 11:20 PM, said:

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 05:25 PM, said:

mersonmalinois, on 17th Nov 2009 - 02:26 PM, said:

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 06:20 AM, said:

Norskgra, on 16th Nov 2009 - 09:24 AM, said:

12. When buying a puppy, what are the things you should ask of the breeder? (eg what health tests have been done (if applicable) and what is an acceptable result to those tests so the buyer has an idea of what the result should be)[/b]

Health testing is not compulsory for Elkhounds. There are only about three breeders that carry out any health tests. Elkhounds should be tested for HD, have their eyes tested and also their kidneys. There is no known test for Familian Renal problems but Elkhounds can hace their kidneys tested, preferably once a year to ensure that there is not any kidney problems. It is very hard to give an idea on what health testing results should be when only three, maybe 4 breeders actually carry out testing. Obviously, the lower the hip scores the better. I prefer to work on a maximum of 1:1. A few breeders say that they have never had any problems but how do you know if the dogs have not been tested and also why wait until there is a problem?

This statement is a bit harsh don't you think? Where is the proof that only 3 maybe 4 breeders do testing?
with this statement, you are publicly attacking other fellow elkhound breeders - This is a public forum

Are you serious elkie1? Norskgra didn't attack anyone. She was letting people know that some breeders don't test and that is a VERY important point to share with prospective puppy buyers/Elkhound fanciers. Telling the truth isn't "harsh".

I think Norskgra should be thanked for sharing this information.

We'll in that case, maybe she should have wrote "To my knowledge"

That's obvious, isn't it? I always appreciate those who know a breed well sharing about health and what testings should be done for their breed. It lets buyers know to be informed and to make wise decisions when choosing a breeder/puppy.

I don't understand why you are jumping her in this thread elkie1. How about embracing your fellow breeder for her dedication to health instead of scolding her for no reason? I don't understand why you are doing that.

Just so you know, I am fine with the way she has it now. Sometimes you may think your post is fine, but you need to read over it to see if maybe it is going to be taken the wrong way by some people. Everyone interprates things differently to others. - ETA I was not the only one who felt is was an attack on other elkhound breeders.

I am fine with the way it is rewritten quoted below.

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Health testing is not compulsory for Elkhounds. From discussions I have had with other breeders, there are only about three breeders that carry out any health tests. Elkhounds should be tested for HD, have their eyes tested and also their kidneys. There is no known test for Familian Renal problems but Elkhounds can hace their kidneys tested, preferably once a year to ensure that there is not any kidney problems. It is very hard to give an idea on what health testing results should be when only three, maybe 4 breeders actually carry out testing. Obviously, the lower the hip scores the better. I prefer to work on a maximum of 1:1.

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[Norskgra]

Removed.

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[mersonmalinois]

Elkie1, what health checks have you done on your dogs? How long have you been breeding? Just curious as you seem like a complete novice by the way you come across in many threads. I hope I am wrong and that you do health check your dogs and agree that health checks are important before breeding any dog.

[Elkie1]

mersonmalinois, on 18th Nov 2009 - 07:31 AM, said:

Elkie1, what health checks have you done on your dogs? How long have you been breeding? Just curious as you seem like a complete novice by the way you come across in many threads. I hope I am wrong and that you do health check your dogs and agree that health checks are important before breeding any dog.

I do health check my dogs before breeding and I do think it is important.
I will not breed a dog/bitch that is unfit for breeding in any way, shap or form.

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[mersonmalinois]

Elkie1, on 18th Nov 2009 - 06:35 AM, said:

mersonmalinois, on 18th Nov 2009 - 07:31 AM, said:

Elkie1, what health checks have you done on your dogs? How long have you been breeding? Just curious as you seem like a complete novice by the way you come across in many threads. I hope I am wrong and that you do health check your dogs and agree that health checks are important before breeding any dog.

I do health check my dogs before breeding and I do think it is important.

Excellent! Glad to know you are one of the NE breeders in Oz who take the health of the breed seriously. What tests do you do on your dogs? In my breed we do hips, elbows, eyes and often cardiac & thyroid. What do you feel is important for your breed?

eta: Oh yeah, how long have you been breeding?

This post has been edited by mersonmalinois: 18 November 2009 - 06:38 AM

[Odin-Genie]

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 06:51 PM, said:

Another thing Norwegian Elkhounds can suffer from is sebaceous cysts. Luckily only one of mine has had one, and was easy to remove.

In experience, some elkhound can be allergice to different foods. an elkhound I know is allergice to beef products and Odin-Genie, Odin is allergice to Chicken products.

Actually, Odin is now perfectly fine with chicken. But he can't digest beef and pork. I give him lamb bones.

[Odin-Genie]

Elkie1, on 17th Nov 2009 - 06:43 PM, said:

✽deelee, on 17th Nov 2009 - 01:01 PM, said:

What are they like with other dogs?
Are they gregarious or do they have a tendency to ignore them?

From personal experience,

My sister has a cross bred dog who gets along with all my elkies. My recent little puppy (5 months of age) loves nothing better then to play with all his puppy friends in sweepstakes

We also have a bitch, socialised the same way all our elkies have been but since she had a urine infection as a young puppy, around the time when a dog lashed out at her and resulted in her splitting her ear open, she will not get along with anyother dog now. She is happiest on her own. But she loves greeting people in the comfort of her own enviroment.

From purely personal experience my elkhound is excellent with other dogs. He wrestles and chases dogs that want to play, leaves those alone who don't want to play. Most people in the dog park comment on his good doggy manners. He is very gentle with puppies and smaller dogs and often sits down in front of them to make them comfortable, but at the same time he is never submissive. If any dog gets too boistrous, he just walks away. He has the best possible temperament I could have asked for.

[Odin-Genie]

Norskgra, on 17th Nov 2009 - 01:28 PM, said:

✽deelee, on 17th Nov 2009 - 01:21 PM, said:

Sigh... Just another breed to add to my wish list...


Who would they not be suited to?

They would not be suitable to people who are not prepared to give them some training. Personally, I would be hesitant in selling a male to an elderly person, purely because the males can be very head strong as well as physically strong.

I would add that anyone not willing to commit to regularly exercising their dogs for at least one hour a day should not get an elky. They are a high energy breed.