elki244 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 hi. im new to this, (puppy and website) ive ressently bought a new lab puppy, and he came with his first vaccinations. we took her to the vet, and they said that she wont be aloud out of the house unless she is carried, at risk of infestion, until atleast two weeks after second vaccinations. i have had puppies before, but have never had to go through this procedure. Any one have another oppinion? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I don't take my babies out until 10-14 days after their 2nd vaccination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmoo Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It is fine to take your pup out of the house now. You just need to be careful where you take your pup...for example DO NOT take your pup to the beach, off leash dog parks etc...these areas are uncontrolled (by that I mean you do not know who has or hasnt had their dogs vaccinated, if the dogs are sick etc). If you think an area looks dodgy then carry pup around otherwise let him walk around. Your pup needs to get out and about to experience life to help him be a well socialised adult dog... cheers, MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuggaWuggles Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) You can take your pup out be very careful where you take her.We have our Pug puppies 3rd and final vaccination this weekend(due to a parvo scare),he still has not been near(but seen and heard) any other dogs,but we have had him out,we carry him everywhere,show him other dogs,take him to noisy places etc,just to get him get used to things.we are hoping the vet will let us walk and socialise him with knowen dogs after his 3rd precautionary vaccination.If not,it is another 14 days till we can do anything properly. Edited October 19, 2009 by smitty44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 It is fine to take your pup out of the house now. You just need to be careful where you take your pup...for example DO NOT take your pup to the beach, off leash dog parks etc...these areas are uncontrolled (by that I mean you do not know who has or hasnt had their dogs vaccinated, if the dogs are sick etc). If you think an area looks dodgy then carry pup around otherwise let him walk around. Your pup needs to get out and about to experience life to help him be a well socialised adult dog... cheers, MM The above I agree completely with. Just be careful with what dogs you pup may socialise with until she is fully vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 The American Veterinary Society for Animal Behaviour now recommends that the risk of infection in normal populations (for their jurisdiction, in America) is lower than the risks associated with under-socialisation. You miss a critical period of development if you wait until after vaccinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I took my pup everywhere with me from the moment I got him. Just not at places where I knew a lot of dogs will go eg, dog parks, beaches etc. I carried him around everywhere from shopping, car rides, friends house etc. Socialising a puppy is very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Never on the ground in any pubic place until 10 days after the 2nd and final puppy vaccination. Parvo virus can persist in the ground for years. Pups should be carried in public places for socialisation, not put on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The American Veterinary Society for Animal Behaviour now recommends that the risk of infection in normal populations (for their jurisdiction, in America) is lower than the risks associated with under-socialisation. You miss a critical period of development if you wait until after vaccinations. That's interesting, my dogs are very social, perhaps it's the older 'pack' members teaching and socialising youngsters, or the visitors to the house :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The American Veterinary Society for Animal Behaviour now recommends that the risk of infection in normal populations (for their jurisdiction, in America) is lower than the risks associated with under-socialisation. You miss a critical period of development if you wait until after vaccinations. That's interesting, my dogs are very social, perhaps it's the older 'pack' members teaching and socialising youngsters, or the visitors to the house :D That would be a big factor, so would temperament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziah Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The American Veterinary Society for Animal Behaviour now recommends that the risk of infection in normal populations (for their jurisdiction, in America) is lower than the risks associated with under-socialisation. You miss a critical period of development if you wait until after vaccinations. That's interesting, my dogs are very social, perhaps it's the older 'pack' members teaching and socialising youngsters, or the visitors to the house :D That would be a big factor, so would temperament. I wasn't having a go or stirring, I really did find it interesting, thanks :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalier Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 The American Veterinary Society for Animal Behaviour now recommends that the risk of infection in normal populations (for their jurisdiction, in America) is lower than the risks associated with under-socialisation. You miss a critical period of development if you wait until after vaccinations. This really depends on the area you are in. In our town it is a very high risk parvo and distemper area. We recommend people not take their pups anywhere outside their yard until 1 week after their third vaccination at 16 weeks. The virus load is so high here we have had so many pups in with confirmed parvo even after their 2nd vaccination at 12 weeks. Not worth the risk IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Genuine question Cavalier- when you let people know not to take their pups out, do you also advise of the need for at home socialisation and specific things they should be doing while the pups are in their critical period? (approx 6-16 weeks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavalier Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Genuine question Cavalier- when you let people know not to take their pups out, do you also advise of the need for at home socialisation and specific things they should be doing while the pups are in their critical period? (approx 6-16 weeks) Absolutely! I advise finding friends who have fully vaccinated dogs and bring them over to their house for socialisation. I also go through basic obedience training and highly recommend joining puppy preschool once the vaccinations are finished. (even the dog club up here wont take pups for puppy preschool until they have had all 3 vaccinations). Its not perfect but the risk of catching parvo here is far too great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Cavalier, where are you located? Sounds like a particular suburb in Melbourne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundyburger Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) We will be taking our puppy out and socialising him when he comes home before he's had his 2nd vac which has been backed up by the breeder. He will not however be allowed to socialise with any unknown dogs, only those already in the family(so we know they're fine, most don't live with us though) and will be carried where necessary until he has had his second vac. So much has changed since I last had a puppy Edited October 28, 2009 by TeGz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollydog Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I see OP lives in Queensland. Perhaps they, like me, live in Townsville which, according to my vet, has the highest incidence of Parvo in the developed world due to low rates of vaccination and people taking unvaccinated puppies to dog parks and the like. (I certainly have noticed, when taking my older dog to dog park, quite a lot of very young puppies running about. ) Apparently, the virus can live for up to 18 months in soil here, so even were all Townsville dogs vaccinated, we would still have a Parvo problem for a couple of years! My vet does work in surgeries in Victoria and NSW as well as Townsville. In Townsville he sees 2 or 3 cases of Parvo a day, in Vic and NSW he has not seen a case in about 5 years. His recommendation - at least in Townsville - is that puppies not be taken in public until 3 weeks after the 16-week vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Following the last piece of advice would mean that your pup has limited socialising until 19 weeks of age..... Wow .... all that fun and learning that the pup has missed. Pavo has also been known to spread from contact with humans who have had contact with infected dogs..... so if you want to be paranoid then perhaps people ( or anyone you are unsure about) should wash and change before meeting your pup. The risk of infection is far outweighed by the advantages of early socialising. Life sometimes means taking some risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danois Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Following the last piece of advice would mean that your pup has limited socialising until 19 weeks of age.....Wow .... all that fun and learning that the pup has missed. Pavo has also been known to spread from contact with humans who have had contact with infected dogs..... so if you want to be paranoid then perhaps people ( or anyone you are unsure about) should wash and change before meeting your pup. The risk of infection is far outweighed by the advantages of early socialising. Life sometimes means taking some risk. And more often than not, catching parvo means ending up with a dead puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't want to wait that long - dogs need socialisation/habituation to things in our world, otherwise they often don't cope so well when we do want to take them out and we have missed that critical period of development when the impact of experiences is so huge that their brains literally change shape as they learn. Once they reach 16 weeks, this critical period of development is finished. I appreciate that if you live in towns where Parvo is more rampant than we fortunates who don't suffer it as much, that you need to be more vigilant about what you do and where you go, but just keeping your pup in the back yard isn't going to offer the guarantees you might be seeking either. Unless you fully undress and change etc. etc. every time you've been out and come back home. Even then, no guarantees. I'd have the pup out sooner than that - but I would be very choosey about where I go. At the very least, you could introduce your pup to the sounds of traffic; trains; to the sight of people and their individual modes of transport (eg. scooters; motorised scooters; skate boards; etc); airports; places where the noises are louder (eg construction sites). I would have thought that a small puppy group could be arranged where historically you are fairly confident about where they've come from and been and with relative safety, socialise at least with them. I would, however, stay clear of public areas where dogs/pups populate. Edited November 7, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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