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GoldenGirl, I noticed you are in QLD, are you in Brissy? You should pop along to a DOL meet sometime

Happypaws, this is a discussion forum, and as such we are all going to share our opinions on certain training methods and tools. No harm meant by it, it's just a discussion. What a boring place this forum would be if we didn't all have different opinions and experiences to share and talk about. Do you have anything to actually add to the thread or are you just posting to have a stir?

Well said Longcoat, I completely agree :rolleyes:

Dyzney that is wonderful! You must be so proud of your girl! Pics or video a must :rolleyes:

Ok just read the article you linked to Ptolomy and I am feeling quite excited about training scent discrimination! It sounds far easier to do than I thought it would be. I am going to buy some articles this week Thanks for the inspiration :rolleyes:

Thanks so much Ptolomy! I will have a read of the dogscouts method. That link above is where I got my dumbell from, will probably buy them from there.

I'm not a huge person either, but at three months old it's not like your pup is going to have a lot of weight behind her. Training her to walk nicely now, when she is still easily manageable is going to mean she is easy to walk as an adult. There's lots you can do to train focus around distractions like birds and that goes a long way to having a dog who doesn't have any interest in chasing after them, because she knows obeying you is far more rewarding :rolleyes:

I was talking to a friend about this today! I would love to train Daisy scent discrimination as I am quite sure she will excel at it but I have no idea where to start or how to do it :rolleyes: Do you have any scent articles? No though I guess that would probably be a good place to start? Anyone have any recommendations on where to buy them?

Are you talking about the judges training? I've been to one at Oxley, but it was quite a while ago now. Maybe if you give the CCC Qld (or whatever they call themselves now) a call they might be able to help you :rolleyes: Apparently trainee judges are the ones who do them? I am just keen to do some proper run outs with Daisy in a trial like situation.

I was talking to a friend about this today! I would love to train Daisy scent discrimination as I am quite sure she will excel at it but I have no idea where to start or how to do it :rolleyes:

I guess I just don't see why you would need to put a baby puppy in one, surely with all the time and effort you have used teaching her to wear it you could have taught her to walk on a flat/martingale collar and leash. I used the head collar I put on my Siberian properly, and NEVER "abused" him with it yet he still found it highly aversive. One of the reasons I dislike head collars is that even if you use it properly, there can still be room for error, and the dog may still dislike it. Some dogs will never accustom to having the strap putting pressure on their nose or sitting on it or riding up into their eyes as many head collars can do. For Micha, it was constantly aversive because he found it unpleasant the entire time. Funnily enough after four years of having a Siberian Husky who practically pulled my arm out of it's socket on each walk, we met with a trainer who did some one on one work with us and with the right method and a properly fitted martingale he has walked nicely on the leash for the last three and a half years. As Suzanne Clothier said, in some situations, head halters might be a suitable choice, but they should be viewed as a temporary phase, not a life long solution.

Just looking at your ticker GG, it looks like your pup is only three months old - waaaaaay too little to be needing a head collar! If you start off the right way when they are little you won't need a tool like a head collar to teach them to walk nicely on the leash. I would also be very concerned about using a head collar on a baby pup whose joints are still developing. The risk of neck/spinal damage with head collars worries me greatly. ETA: I strongly recommend anyone who uses a head collar to have a read of Suzanne Clothier's article, the Problem With Head Collars, just for a different perspective on the tool. http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/54/97/

I was about to post the same thing! In QLD vetting is about checking the dog for lameness as well as checking to see if the bitch is in season.

I find it hard to believe that no amount of training can stop a dog from pulling on the leash. There are many trainers out there who won't use head collars and can still teach dogs not to pull... Even if you do use a halti you should still be using a training program along with it. I personally don't like head collars (I have no problem with many other training tools out there) but I wouldn't recommend them for 'any' dog that pulls on the leash... there are many pros and cons to head collars including the risk of injury that presents with their use that would make me reluctant to use them, especially with certain types of dogs (i.e. dogs that are prone to lunging). ETA: ILK I agree it is important the dog gets a walk, but head collars are so common place now I see them misused constantly, and used instead of the owner actually training their dog. Some dogs find them highly aversive (including my own dog) and whilst the walk may be enjoyable for the owner because the dog isn't pulling, it can be most unpleasant for the dog, if they are kind of dog who find head collars very aversive and spend the whole walk being 'corrected'.

Hey guys Just wondering if anyone could help me. I am wondering what mock obedience trials are held in Brissy, and where and when? I've heard there are some in Logan and Oxley on the Southside, does anyone know if any are held on the Northside? Ta!

Hey Tilly - which obedience/agility club is it? (PM if you prefer)

WOOHOOOOOO!!!!! Goooooooo Jane!! A well deserved win for a lovely lady and amazing dog trainer/behaviourist

Woohooo goooooo Ruth!!

any videos to share Neats???

Huski - Ask to see the Alex round - go on I dare you (I can see Bedazzled placing her hand on her hand now and going "OH NO")! I would love to see the Alex round if it's on video I am sure it will still look very impressive to noobs like me :D

I agree with OMD. Puppies don't just grow out of that behaviour, they have to be taught otherwise. In fact if they aren't trained not to the behaviour will get worse as they get older as the habit becomes more ingrained. This dog needs training but there's no point taking it to obedience school or getting a trainer in if the family can't commit to it 110%.

Well done to everyone with recent brags Do you have your winning round on video Caffy??

I mean that I would put her back in position and reward once she was remained in the right position for x amount of time.

I taught Daisy lots of tricks after she'd been desexed. It took her not even a full 24 hours to go back to being an evil beagle I think I still have a video of Baby Daisy learning how to give hi-10, still with her stitches in