huski

I would be leaving primarily for my dog's safety, it is my job to protect them and I would be too scared that staying at the club will put them in a position to be treated like that

Anyone who dared to touch my dog in such a manner would be on the receiving end of the same treatment I wouldn't touch a club like that with a ten foot pole. I would make sure the Club President knew exactly why I was leaving.

Ah I gotcha now! I don't know any trainers in the ACT unfortunately Might be worthwhile look at K9's loose leash walking program if it will be a while before you can get a consult.

K9 Force/K9 Pro does recommend Jane Harper, a behaviourist here in Brisbane, who many DOLers including myself have used. Not sure if you have consulted her but I would highly recommend her (in fact it was Steve who first referred her to me). I know what it's like to have a "busy" beagle! http://www.dogsontrack.com.au/ Whereabouts in Brissy are you? (PM if you prefer). K9Pro also has a distance learning package for loose leash walking, have you considered doing that in the mean time?

Daisy's a whinger too. I think it is largely her personality. We had Cherry when we got Micha and he's the opposite, he's Mr Cool and is happy to be on his own.

Any news Jacq??

She seemed fine with other dogs tonight that I let her greet etc, we don't tend to socialise with or play with other dogs at dog school and Daisy is a bit disinterested in other dogs generally. I'm more worried about how she will react if another dog rushes up towards her as that's what happened with the DA dog tonight.

Me too Nik, it was so awful hearing her crying and yelping when he was attacking her, she was so scared it was terrible Lucky BC4ME was quick to act (when the owner wasn't!) and was able to grab him. Daisy is the sweetest dog, not timid or fearful in any way so I really hope it doesn't impact on her confidence. The owners will hopefully come back next week and I will refer them to a good behaviourist here who works with a lot of DA dogs. I know what it's like to have a DA dog and it is awful, but can be so much easier with the right guidance. ETA: Thanks Tiggy. My poor baby. The dog that attacked her ran over to two dogs on a tie out first and wasn't aggressive towards them at all, so when he ran towards Daisy I thought I'd grab him to stop him running off any further, then he ripped into her I don't know if it was because the other two dogs were bigger than he was and Daisy was smaller. If I had any inclination he was aggro I would have tried to body block him from getting near Daisy instead of trying to grab him There were kids there who saw it and they started crying! It was terrible.

Poor Daisy was attacked at obedience club tonight A newbie dog got off leash and ripped into her. The owner froze and went and hid in the club house while it was happening. The dog had no collar on (slipped it) so it was hard to grab it. Luckily Daisy is physically ok. I really hope this doesn't impact on her easiness around other dogs, she is so tolerant and generally nonplussed with other dogs, I would hate for her to lose that. I feel so upset, after what happened to Micha I have tried so hard to make sure nothing like that ever happens to Daisy and this is the first time she's ever experienced a dog attacking her

I think Urban Dog Training do puppy play groups. http://www.urbandogtraining.com.au/free-pu...lay-groups.html

Could have a point there huski. One thing I was really conscious of doing was ensuring that any drive work I did with Daisy I also did when she had her leash on as well as when it's off. We train with it on and off, and it doesn't make a difference to her.

I tend to agree especially when you consider the original purpose behind scenting.

We have a word for that (not so much for jumping on people, but more for bench surfing areas that have food ) - we say 'off'

LOL RS, I thought I was one of the only ones who uses 'down'! Everyone else seems to say drop

Tiggy I wonder if taking the leash off has become a bit of a signal that training is about to start, hence why she doesn't work as well on leash - do you play any training games on leash?

Half an hour is a long time to ask a dog to focus! Can you do a few minutes of the class, then have a break, and come back for assessments? Do you play any training games with him to make you exciting? I use classes as an opportunity to do distraction work, not so much for learning/training. I do most of my training outside of class, at home, at the park etc. Personally I prefer to have a few minutes of 110% focus and attention and energy, as opposed to an hour or half an hour of average work. I also always try to end training with my dog wanting more - so when they are still interested and keen to work - as opposed to waiting until she loses interest. All dogs can have off days so I wouldn't worry too much if he has an off day here and there.

How long are the classes? Personally I find an hour long class too long for my dog. I like to rev her up to work, do a quick training session then have a break. What treats are you using? What does a normal class involve, is there a lot of heel work etc?

Mish likes to pee on everything to when we are out on walks, but I just keep walking now after he does his first couple of big wees - I have no patience for marking, although he does sometimes pee and walk at the same time

Blab, I know many people who have used UO with success. It's been ages since I've used it and even then it was for a cat. I am actually considering getting some to stop Micha pissing on this one spot on the back deck. From memory it's not overly exxy, definitely worth a shot!

I would go urine off too, and spray it on any area you don't want him to toilet.

Well that depends - is he incredibly stubborn and annoying? Cos if he is, definitely a beagle

No, because Spaniels come back ;) Touche :D

I love the PBGVs, they are a bit like scruffy beagles :D

But are they in drive "peak" ? I am far from an expert, but when I see Daisy really get on a scent (different to just having a sniff around) I think she is in drive... you can barely physically pull her off it; she will walk over bindis on the ground like they aren't even there, that at any other time would cause her to stop and pick her paws up and refuse to walk any further; she blocks out everything around her except for the scent she is on; you could shove food under her nose and she won't even notice it's there; even picking her up so her nose is off the ground she still leans her neck as far forward as possible trying to scent... if you consider a dog in drive peak is using the lower cortex of their brain, the medulla, the part responsible for primal instincts, I would definitely say that when she is really switched onto a scent like this that she is in drive peak. At least that's how I see it :D

I suspect the wagging tail has been bred in, selecting for "happy, willing workers" or something like that. It would be quite a disadvantage in other circumstances. It's probably quite helpful in flushing prey, I don't really know though. That's interesting Aidan, anyone who has seen a beagle on a scent will know their tail goes a million miles an hour the entire time. All beags have at least a white tip on their tail so that they are easy to spot from a distance when scenting. I don't know if that's the same for the spaniels in the video you posted though. My understanding is that scenting is part of prey drive.