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Were they being quite noisy or making loud noises? That may have scared him a bit? I would suggest introducing him to one child and asking the child to be quiet, calm, and not move quickly, let Charlie approach the child at his own pace? It is also possible he was worried because he was on lead and couldn't get away? Hard to say though, Kyzer was a bit bewildered when my little cousins came over, but soon learnt that they were great fun to play with! I am looking forward to hearing other peoples responses

Kyzer did this once - the park is across the road from our house, he was going really well having a nice run and then all of a sudden took off at full speed straight across the road home - and straight to his water bowl! Gave me a fright, luckily it is a quiet street and there were no cars but he is now not trusted off lead until he has a reliable recall and i also take water with me now. Little buggers!

LOL TB! In my first week there was a BT who was 12 weeks and he was just as you described Atlas, he wanted to play so rough, he was quite a funny little guy.

Okay, I'll keep that in mind, thanks poodlefan He's only 6 months now.

I believe the recommendation is to feed 50% patties & 50% raw meaty bones? I agree the patties are rather expensive but i my dog is only 4.5kgs so it isn't too bad for me. If your dog is a bit bigger perhaps try and make your own? it would work out much cheaper, if i had more dogs I would make it myself. I second the Lenards mince It's quite cheap and my dog loves it, i use it for when I can't get to a place that sells Dr B patties.

Hi Stacey, My pup was like this the first one or two weeks of puppy preschool, but gradually came out of his shell (a little too much ) Just keep taking her, and don't get stressed out because she will be able to sense it. The trainer enticed my pup out of hiding with some liver treats, just tiny pieces, this seemed to make him realise it really was ok, but be careful with food around that many dogs.

Just thought I'd update - Had obedience classes last night, my instructor was not there, i asked another instructor if i could change classes, she said no, because they don't allow classes with all small dogs or all big dogs (despite Kyzer being the only small dog in the group). I explained i wasn't happy because the other dogs were very aggressive. She told me the only way he will get used to big dogs is to be aroud them. I understood that, but didn't feel comfortable with those particular big dogs. As it turned out, there were more beginners this week so they made another new class and they put us in there. I'm really happy in this class, the instructor is nice and helpful, and there is a staffy puppy, a sheltie, a belgian shepherd, a rotty, and 2 goldens. The oldest dog, the Sheltie, is 11 months, and none of them are dog aggressive. The owner of the belgian shepherd mentioned that she was in the same class as me last week, and also requested to change, she too hung back when the instructor called for everyone to come in to let their dogs meet because she did not want her dog to be attacked. I'm happy now, and am looking forward to training next Monday! So overall, a good result.

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Good to hear Rhi!

Poor Rhi, Poor Jak C'mon Jak, get better!

I bought one for about $7 at mart, it clips on to a belt, i find it quite easy to get in and out of.

Wow what an ordeal Well, it sounds pretty promising anyway, Rhi. Fingers still crossed for you both

I had suspected this, she does give kyzer a rather filthy look ;) Thanks for the tips, i might look for some books, methods that work on large dogs don't work on him because he is so small and springy when you try to lure him to a drop or something he just springs up - luckily he already knows drop.

Yes the cards and water skiing are excellent. 2tollers the tutorials are excellent. So far I have been doing the 1s from this page http://photoshopessentials.com/ They haven't taken me long at all. I just had a go at the 1 on blending images and am really happy with how this turned out given it was a first attempt. I have since had a play with the other 1 and found by changing the layer transparencies it looks more effective. I LOVE THAT!! It's a beautiful effect!

I'm looking for some photos for you but they are all at home on my laptop ;)

Great tricks everyone ;) Wow, I'd better get to work on trick training Anyone know some good sites for trick training?

I did an OOB the other day but it's on my computer at home. Must remember to upload it. ;)

Thanks for your replies I was quite shocked when she said for everyone to bring their dogs into the middle and meet, it was in the middle of the class, I didn't think they did that at obedience classes. I will try and change classes, i personally think it would be better in a class with small dogs like mine, he might be less jumpy. Next dog I get will be big - I'm sick of having to bend right down to give treats ;)

Yeah, I think you can now joine that vet bills thread!! What price can you put on love? Hope all is well tomorrow, I love that Jak has stolen the nurses heart . Good luck ;)

Yeah, I think I'll do that next week, thanks Helen.

Oooh she does look thin the poor pup Keep us updated on what the vet says. I can't believe how sudden this all happened!

I started basic obedience training with Kyzer, who is 5 months old, and have done two classes so far. The first week, there were only 5 beginner dogs, so we were all in a class together. The next smallest dog in the class was a 7 month old GR which was still at least 4 times bigger than kyzer. The other dogs kept lunging at Kyzer which i was not happy about, because i really do not want him to be dog aggressive, and he is already starting to show signs. The second week, there were 19 beginners, and a lot of the new beginners had little puppies kyzer's size, but because i was there the first week, i had to stay in the same group with 4 new big dogs, and the little puppies had a seperate class with a different instructor. During the class, the trainer told everyone to bring the dogs in to "meet" each other, I hung back for a bit because i did not like the idea, the other big dogs got in a fight. I was very glad I had not taken him into the group. She is a GSD trainer usually and she doesn't seem to even want to help me or kyzer with training. I really want Kyzer to be well socialised and not have bad experiences just yet, i realise he will have to learn to be with big dogs too, but i don'yt think this is a good group of big dogs for him to meet. They were snarly and were lunging at each other. A GSD came and stood over him before training, and kyzer froze up, and nipped him on the mouth. I do not want this to be happening, and really want to get him comfortable around dogs. He is fine with the four dogs he regularly socialises with including a GSD. Anyway, being a beginner i just wanted to see if my feelings are right, and if he would be better in the other class or not? Am i being too finicky? Has anyone had a similar experience? I really want to enjoy doing obedience, but this woman and this situation is making me dread it. Any other tips or pointers are welcome also. TIA

Poor little pup, get well soon Jak!

Is this for all breeds?

Nasty Nurse. I can just imagine Jak bouncing off the walls at the vets too