Bilbo Baggins

My prefix Clarelly is similar to Clovelly but I do not have a problem. What are the 2 prefixes??

Miss Precious :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well I felt 3 little balls in Miss Zarah yesterday morning. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

WooooHooo

That's a pregnant dog. ;) ;) Her chest is way wider that previous time.

Pockets I would be talking to the repo vet in Werribee.

I think to see them moving she may be 8 1/2 weeks. I can feel my cavs move but never see them until during the week of deleivery. But then Poms are smaller.

I am assuming Koolies??

:rofl: Given all your bad luck no worries. ;)

I did not say not to breed with carriers. Rather its really sad that carrier/affected status has been brought in by imported dogs and you will have no control over future generations and the carrier/affected status will expand across population.

HUH?! How do the import rules have anything to do with bringing in clear dogs? As Eishund has said I wouldn't be throwing the baby out with the bathwater when consdering breeding MDR1 carriers, its just a gene mutation. Its about informing new owners about what products are safe to use and what are on the no-no list. Even carriers can become symptomatic when given ivermectin based drugs. My Aussie is a carrier for MDR1 and as a precaution I don't give him anything containing ivermectin, better safe than sorry. What I meant about bringing in dogs was that its going to take longer and they are going to older and thus more expensive and this will put people off.

: Oh....my....god. There you go again, quoting alleged numbers of clear & carrier dogs. And yet again, the figures you have given are WRONG. You clearly do not have the intimate knowledge of the breed you claim to have, so perhaps refrain from quoting breed statistics until you do your research!!! If you are so interested in the breed, then I encourage you to learn more, and If I can help, I'm more than happy to do so as it's obvious you need assistance. And how many of the unrecognised local lines have been tested? A small handful yes? Therefore, how can one claim that the entire Australian genepool is clear when only minimal testing has been done. Wild, uneducated & unsupported claims such as that worry me! I can assure you, there is a lot more to be concerned about in the local lines than MDR1 in the imported lines! MDR1 is NOT A DISEASE, what part of that are you not understanding. What do you mean 'given the change of import rules bringing in clear dogs is also going to be an issue?' I highly doubt any type of restriction would be placed on the importation of a dog with a mutated gene that is not a health issue. Is that what you are implying? The aim of any testing in a breeding program is for it to be used as a tool to ensure AFFECTED dogs are not produced. The aim of testing is so carriers CAN be used effectively without limiting the genepool. With a severe health issue, yes, breeders can use it to weed out carriers if they wish, but MDR1 can NOT be compared with diseases. It's a healthy dog, always will be! No MDR1 is not a disease but an affected dog will die if given the wrong medication. Given the amount of carriers in the breed the only way you could stop an affected dog being produced would be to paediatricly desex all carriers and sell as pets. Keeping clear for breeding. This would then prevent an affected being produced 2 generations done the track. Because you can not control second and third generations.

Percy is the closest to a cav name. ;) ;) But wait till you get him and a name will pop up. You can have short list and wait a few days after he arrives if you have not decided.

Ooops I am sorry there are 3 clear males and 3 clear females currently in the breeding pool. There could be more but not hip and elbow scored yet. I am not denigrating the White Swiss Shepherds just pointing out the unfortunate situation of the imported dogs over the unrecognised clear local dogs. No I do not currently own an ANKC WSS but that does not stop me being interested in the breed. The aim of any breeding program is to test and hopefully weed out the carriers so all future generations are clear. When the gene pool is so small and its infested with carriers then its going to take a considerable amount of time to achieve clear status. Given the change of Import rules bringing in clear dogs is also going to become a big challenge.

There are 2 clear dogs.

for this time.

Unfortunately OSO there is 1 clear bitch in the country.

Miss Zarah has completely changed she is much more sookie wanting cuddles and kisses. Yesterday BBJ and partner took her and 2 cavs to the beach. Zarah walked quietly beside instead of wanting to pull out. She also kept close to the cavs and came when called.

bel - Shih Tzu - 4th. 01/01/2012. 5 boys 1 girl Angelsun - German Pinschers - 4th. 03/01/2012. 6 boys 1 girl Gumnut - Labrador Retriever - 7th. 07/01/2012. 4 boys 1 girl Puglvr -Pugs - 9th. 05/01/2012. 2 boys Tralee - Maremmas - 11th. ?????????? BittyMooPeeb - Havanese - ???th. 11/01/2012. 1 boys 2 girl 1 girl died. oakeydoak1 - Border Collies - 13th.14/01/2012. 3 boys 3 girls lappiemum - Finnish Lapphund - 23rd. 21/01/2012. 4 boys 4 girls troop - Norfolf Terriers -??th. 25/01/2012. 1 boy 2 girls Risyntira - Border Collies - 26th. Cario1 - German Shepherds - 30th. Monteba - Cavaliers - 31st. Bilbo Baggins - Cavaliers - 31st.

Oh Dxenion that is really bad luck in a developing breed it really narrows the gene pool.

BBJ has taken 3 of ours to a beach somewhere. Hopefully photos will ensure.

There you go she was all good. Have a read of theses, not the one I read originally. http://www.bobtail.ru/text/oes/puppy_e.htm http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+1659+1651&aid=916

:cry: :cry: What bummer.

bjazld the pup should put on 10% of its birth weight a day and be double by 10 days. Hence a 100 gram pup will put on 10 grams a day and 200grams by 10 days. So any thing above 10% is a bonus. Slightly under is okay majorly under then a concern. A small pup does have to be watched as the bigger ones will elbow it out. I usually take the big ones away for a wile after a feed and leave the small ones to have a topup.

Added. :thumbsup: