Steve

Yep its coming from Sydney Uni - same person who pushed PDE and this is just the beginning.

Maybe make em wear a muzzle.

Might point out that there are no charges on the previous one either . Filthy.

But wasn't she taking in rescue horses? Surely some would come into care in poor condition and need time to put on condition etc Why would they seize them anyway ? Surely you cant blame her for trying to prevent them using a baton on the horses? Looks like someone has it in for her big time.

http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/farmers-say-bull-to-rspca/1659806/ NOEL Thompson of Coraki is left scratching his head at the latest suggested animal welfare guidelines put out by the RSPCA in respect to beef cattle. Mr Thompson, 66, has been farming all his life and runs 800 cattle at Coraki and North Woodburn, ably supported by his kelpie Tessie. The suggested guidelines from the RSPCA have included the muzzling of working dogs and banning them from working in yards. I'd like to know who at the RSPCA makes these guidelines up and if they've ever been out on a farm. "In the yard (Tessie) is just as good as two to three people," Mr Thompson said. "She's gentle with the cattle and the only time she will bite is if a cow gives attitude and even then it's just a quick nip." Mr Thompson put Tessie through her paces, showing how placidly the cattle let themselves be directed by the kelpie. "I'd like to know who at the RSPCA makes these guidelines up and if they've ever been out on a farm," he said. "(Cattle) don't stress when Tessie guides and blocks them and I reckon she settles them." Mr Thompson admits to some dogs requiring muzzling and that happens at dog trials and on farms where required. "They are isolated cases. We shouldn't all be lumped in together," he said. Another guideline by the RSPCA which has cattle operators dumbfounded is that 'cattle and calves are not consigned through saleyards'. George & Fuhrmann managing director and cattle auctioneer Darren Perkins said animal welfare was a very important part of their business. "The livestock that we handle and sell through saleyards are treated well as animal welfare (is) top of our list," he said. Mr Perkins said to lose the saleyards would be one of the biggest hits to the industry. "It's all right to say the abattoirs can handle it but not all cattle (is) suited to go to that market, with many people breeding for the very good store markets that are specialised for the saleyard system," he said. "Do you want farmers or do you just want to bring in all the diseases the rest of world has to provide?"

yep they get to do anything they want without ever speaking with the owner or getting a second opinion. Poor animal was suffering so much it was cruel to let it live - then they cremate the evidence. You're gone.

Well here's a problem - as far as I know based on what we were told when we applied to be an applicable org in Victoria the only thing a VCA breeder who has less than 10 fertile dogs is exempt from is having to have the permit it doesnt mean they dont have to comply with the code for breeding dogs.

Yep sure does.

And no outside accountability.

they would be pretty silly though if they did say that - its called price fixing and highly illegal.

So all that work that PIAA do to tell the world that dumped animals are not coming from pet shops has just been counteracted because this petshop has agreed out loud that impulse buys happen via pet shops and that animals purchased through pet shops end up dumped. I love it.

Well done guys .Take a bow on the work you have contributed and the difference you have made. I understand what an emotional decision it is to have to pull the plug on something you have been passionate about . Julie

I already started with a handicap just from posting on this forum what I wanted to do, got a great welcome into how crappy some people can be involved in rescue just glad I found some greyhound rescues that are ok with helping, sharing and networking. I wish you luck - I never afforded you a handicap because you posted here and most people who were reading and not posting would have felt as I did. You certainly seemed to have progressed from asking advice to being in up to your neck and I hope in the mean time you have covered the basics including having council approval to run a business from your residence and that you have permission for the dog numbers. I also hope you consider how when you bring a strange dog in straight from kennels via transport that you put your family at risk for health issues and unknown temperament risks and you have that managed as well.

The best I know of is in Wagga Wagga - many owners travel for hundreds of kilometres to see her.

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/1174972/rspca-offers-free-dog-vaccinations/?cs=80 FREE parvovirus vaccinations will be on offer to Bendigo dogs next week. See your ad hereThe RSPCA’s Mobile Animal Care unit will set up shop at the RSPCA Bendigo Shelter next week and the RSPCA, with the help of Bendigo vets who will be volunteering their time, will be offering free parvovirus vaccinations to all Healthcare Card holders tomorrow and Wednesday. RSPCA Bendigo Shelter supervisor Mark Goodwin said this would be the Mobile Animal Care unit’s first visit to Bendigo. “They’ll be bringing it up from Melbourne and it will be at the RSPCA Bendigo Shelter and all animals will be seen in the truck,” he said. The free vaccinations are in response to a recent outbreak of parvovirus in Bendigo, as reported by the Bendigo Advertiser last month. The potentially fatal virus is spread through indirect and direct contact with infected dog’s faeces. Warning signs of animals with parvovirus are lethargy and food aversion in the first 24 hours, and then vomiting.

But debating means chatting about the facts and not making it personal. How is it that someone who doesn't know me or my dog or my circumstances can determine better than me with my vet what is best for my dog. Any idea how many Maremma end up in pounds because they are bred to work by barking?

I witnessed something similar and I was so upset by it that I actually came home and threw out all of my kids pyjamas and from then on right up till right now they sleep in tracky dacks or T shirts etc in case anyone came and judged me unfit for my dogs because my kids had a sleep in. Ive never done a yard check for any rescue since.

I was watching it most of the time and didnt see anything

No Jake will do it whether he's alone or not.

Ive got one who does this so he has a piddle pot and a water bowl - seems to stop him

Agree but most grown ups like to make their own choices and not be told that they are unsuitable. They come to rescue with warm fuzzy feelings about saving a life and then they are told its not happening. When they get rejected they spit the dummy. Human nature and not much anyone can do to avoid it.

Yep but sometimes respecting the breed isn't all its cracked up to be either and covers a multitude of sins .Id like to think that at the end of the day anyone who breeds dogs has a base desire to do whats best for the dogs and its better for the dogs if part of it all is that they are predictable and that is the ONLY thing that a registered purebred breeder can ever automatically be assumed to be doing over any other. I not real sure what you are getting at? Are you saying temperament is the only thing that matters? Or at the very least, it's the most important? Surely not? Respecting the standard is respecting the breed. Without the standard there is no breed. Temperament is just one small part of the whole. Predictable as in everything,size, management, grooming needs, etc etc etc including temperament - it is after all why we breed purebred dogs - is it not ?

Yes, several times when I've suggested a rescue dog to a person, they've replied, 'Don't like rescue groups. They ask too many questions.' I always answer and so, too, do ethical registered breeders of purebreds. Both want a good match, for both the dog's sake AND the new owner's sake. UQ found the biggest excuse given for dumping/surrendering dogs was that the dog did not live up to the owner's expectations. The time around possible adoption is the time to start testing out that match, to prevent later problems. One of the people who adopted a purebred tibbie from a good registered breeder, remarked that it was like when she adopted a child! She meant it with admiration... she said it showed how much the breeder valued her dog & cared about a good future. But she may have been the author of the article if she hadn't have gotten the dog too.

Yep but sometimes respecting the breed isn't all its cracked up to be either and covers a multitude of sins .Id like to think that at the end of the day anyone who breeds dogs has a base desire to do whats best for the dogs and its better for the dogs if part of it all is that they are predictable and that is the ONLY thing that a registered purebred breeder can ever automatically be assumed to be doing over any other.

This is the one basic issue that is often over looked when we are asking why such high dumpage and euth rates etc . People still feel that they have a right to own a dog - a dog they choose and not one that someone else decides they should or should not have. Make it more difficult via breeders who sometimes say no and rescue who sometimes say no and they will move on to somewhere else which doesn't see it as an issue to screen the buyer. Some wont even consider getting as far as an inquiry because they refuse to have to be treated as if they don't know what will suit them and allow someone else control over that.