tdierikx

The "breeder" of the litter mentioned in the op has them listed as "Jack Russel" cross...

Personally, I reckon a smaller black and tan thing had it's way with her, and the "breeder" is milking the fact they own a Rotti as well as this unfortunate bitch - who looks stuff all like a JRT IMHO...

Mind you, I've had people tell me their terrier/ratter cross thing is a "long legged JRT" - apparently they are really rare... *sigh*

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Souff has a point there... my Lab girl is of the smaller more compact style... and she is a nut! She really wouldn't eat a child, but she's certainly not a dog I'd leave unsupervised with one - she plays way too rough and there would definitely be tears. My brother's Lab is of the older larger style, and he's totally bombproof - but it's taken a hell of a lot of training to keep him that way (he's a disability assistance dog).

My Rotti/Pittie girl is MUCH more stable when it comes to the idiotic things kids can do to rile up a dog.

T.

Dogtainers gets my vote... excellent staff who care about the animals in their care, reasonable prices, door to door service, will work with the customer for hard to get to places.

We recently had a rescue needing to get to Lord Howe Island - Dogtainers were brilliant with their organisation, their friendly (and competent) staff made the whole thing a breeze for all involved.

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Trouble (my Lab) LOVES kids... with a little sauce on the side please... *grin*

Seriously, I don't think there is any breed more or less likely to get on with children, or be better behaved, etc... it all comes down to how much effort YOU are willing to put in to get the dog that you want for your family. You get out what you put in basically...

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When I was a little kid of 6, we lived in Alice Springs. The guy up the road had 3 Dobermanns that I used to be allowed to go play with, and I even walked one of them regularly. One day I went to go play with the dogs and the police were there destroying them - some idiot had climbed the back fence (apparently with intent to burglarise) and the dogs had attacked him - the burglar didn't survive the encounter, so his family screamed blue murder for the dogs to be shot. I was highly traumatised by what happened to those 3 gentle dogs for doing what they were actually there for - and contained to their own yard by the way. Note: I was only ever allowed to play with the dogs if the owner let me into the yard - I never opened the gate myself and just sauntered in.

I still don't see why council should be held accountable for an attack that happened when the dogs were chained up in their own yard, and some neighbourhood kid wandered in uninvited...

I suppose there is also a call for the dogs in question to be destroyed... *sigh*

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Changing the law after the fact is one thing... trying to backdate it and apply it to a case that occurred before that law was changed is a bit rich.

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Sure, it's easy to lose sight of where your kids are if they are particularly resourceful little buggers - but does that mean the rest of the planet are responsible for what trouble that child could conceivably get into? How on earth can the council be responsible for a child going into a backyard of someone else's house to be attacked by chained up dogs? It appears that the owner of the dogs was complying with whatever they were told to do to contain said dogs - so neither he nor the council should be held accountable IMHO...

I was an incorrigible toddler myself. My mother was busy attending to my new baby brother one day, and I opened the front door and headed towards the park across the road - never made it to the park... suing the driver that hit me wasn't even in the options considered during the aftermath of ambulances, hospitals, and physio sessions. What my parents DID consider (and do) was to keep a MUCH better eye on me from that point on... errr!

These things can and do happen, and as tragic as it is to read about a little girl's horrible fate, why is it that these things are always ending at a courthouse for compensation nowadays? Money and apportioning of blame to others will not ease the pain of losing your little girl one iota. In fact, the court proceedings are probably going to make the nightmare even more real and traumatic.

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In a world where we actually have a need to put labels on clothing that says "Do not iron whilst wearing", is it any wonder?

In this day and age where the average parent is terrified to let their kids out of their sight in case a pervert grabs them, why do we have a 4 year old child wandering the streets unattended?

How much more does a dog owner need to do - above and beyond keeping his dogs chained up in their OWN back yard - to keep someone ELSE'S child safe from them?

Can't sue the owner, he hadn't broken any laws and appears to have been keeping his dogs contained... what the heck, we'll sue the council instead... it HAS to be someone's fault our 4 year old child went into someone else's yard without anyone seeming to care where she went or what she might be doing...

All the money in the world won't bring that child back, nor will it stop the nightmare that those truly responsible for her safety are now living.

Run free with all of our gone but not forgotten fur friends little Tyra - they will keep you safe forevermore...

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Councils are the ones looking for the cheapest options - so is it any wonder the euth rate is so high in those areas where the councils have sought the cheapest tender?

Some Sydney councils have clauses built into their tendering for impound services for low kill options... maybe lobbying the councils or higher Government departments will be the ultimate answer?

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... and here was me thinking that paying $236 to have my 30kg Labrador bitch spayed by my local vet was very reasonable. Most of the actual cost was in the anaesthetic and pain relief meds administered.

My friend just had to have a hysterectomy (human) - she's so far up to over $2000 in "gap" payment AFTER her top cover health insurance has paid their share... AND the surgeon wanted his fee up front!! If she had waited for the surgery to be done under Medicare, those cancer cells they found may well have turned into something nasty...

Veterinary surgery isn't that expensive when you compare it, is it?

Not to mention that many rescues have negotiated even more reasonable rates with vets all over the country to have their rescues desexed.

I think it's a good initiative Ms Cameron is funding - but it CAN be done cheaper.

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Just think of you favourite thing in the whole world - and it's just out of reach - tantalisingly close, but you just can't grab it... that's how your boy is feeling right now... *grin*

I used to board my bitch with my local vet when she was in season and I didn't want the boy to get to her. My boy didn't do kennels - like yours, he was a totally big sook!

His behaviour will possibly continue until she has finished her season - about 3 weeks is normal... good luck!

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I've been rushed by more small breed dogs out in public than large dogs... I reckon ALL dogs and their owners should have some basic obedience training under their belts.

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Might have been a different story if it were in Australia though...

I actually think it's pretty funny that the dog got it's own back with no real recriminations - never underestimate the stupidity of some humans...

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OK - I found this...

http://kb.rspca.org.au/Do-I-need-to-restra...my-car_303.html

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Ummm... even if the dog "only moved onto her lap when she stopped", wouldn't she be breaking the other law that says you are supposed to have them restrained or contained?

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The things people do never ceases to amaze...

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Lets face it... Faith's owner has been making a tidy living off parading her around the US... and the rescue that took in these current deformed pups will be bringing in funds due to the publicity that they have sought for them... images of happy and healthy homeless dogs don't bring in the donor dollar. They definitely have the "ka-ching" factor, don't they?

If I were the owner of the bitch that whelped these 3 pups, I would have culled them and desexed the bitch and dog that created them - obviously there was something wrong with one of them to create THREE deformed pups in the one litter.

That said, I have fallen completely in love with my own disabled foster pup, and am adopting her myself. I know that she may have certain issues when she's fully grown or old due to her funny gait, but I also know that I can make the right decisions for her when she may need them - and I have the help and support of some very wonderful vets with regards to any issues that may arise. So far she's doing just fine and is passing every normal milestone without any problems - she just walks differently to "normal" dogs and falls over sometimes.

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Ah, but Steve, these cute little mutants will bring in huge donation dollars...

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What a hoot, all those registered breeders, line breeding purebreds, being castigated by the RSPCA - someone outcrosses, the dogs are deformed, the RSPCA is strangely silent.

Apparently it's ok to have deformed pups as long as you aren't a cruel purebred breeder??

Well said Jed...

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I'm pretty sure any ethical breeder would not only have culled this litter, but they would also have not bred from the bitch/male again either...

I'm just flabbergasted at the fact that there were 3 (THREE) pups in this litter with the same deformity...

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I'm with RottnBullies on this one... I really don't think the entire story has been proffered here, so none of us could have any idea what really happened, much less make a judgement call to say if any of the dogs should be euthanaised. The court heard the evidence and made a judgement - that's what they do...

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Not enough info in the article to make a judgement call really... only have one side of the equation...

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3 pups with the same deformity from the same litter is a worry. If I'd "bred" them, I probably would have culled them - I've seen less deformed pups culled from a litter.

The novelty value would quickly wear off for any prospective owner, I agree... but right now I bet those 3 pups are bringing in loads of donations for the organisation that has them...

All that said - I have a foster failure here who has a disability that many wouldn't want to take on - but I love her to death and she copes very well. It's true that when one is born with a disablility one doesn't know one is "broken"... *grin*

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Oh man!! So wrong... but too darned cute for words!

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I hate to say it, I might have to vote Labor in the upcoming State election...

Some of the posts in this thread have some very good options that the RSPCA at Yagoona would possibly benefit from - rather than letting their premises dissolve into dilapidation on the chance that they can put pressure on during a State election.

I have another suggestion for them... instead of euthing animals at the high rates they do, maybe they could start having a better working relationship with the many rescue organisations in Sydney who would be more than glad to take in some of the perfectly rehomable animals that would normally be euthed at Yagoona.

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