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Glad shes ok, just look at that swelling! same collar and lead as my pup haha

so beautiful! you wont be doing puppy socialisation class at rose park by any chance would you?

thats what I am getting, a brown girl a couple are for working lines, a couple I have inquired about are not and are being sold at working line prices.

its fine, the lovely Doberman! I cannot believe the nerve of some people though.

thanks all. IMO the breeder sells her "pet home" puppies at a very fair/far lower then many others that sell pet or show for thousands. I think this is a breed that is exploited hugely and I have seen on DOL that some are advertising pet or show home for $5000. Ridiculous. My breeders "show prospects" are shown for less then other people try and sell their dogs of this breed for. I have some decisions to make, the bitch is due on November 3, so I will do a little more research on keeping a bitch "intact" and speak to the breeder. thank you for all your help.

thanks poodlefan! I'm not dead set on showing, I just want a brown bitch and if the breeder wants to keep her to show (if there is only one) I would be happy to take her and show her for the breeder because I know this may sound pompus and sort of horrible but I do not want another colour and if the only brown bitch is destined to be in the ring, then I will be happy to show but I will also be happy with just a pet so either way doesnt bother me. I guess, because "show" and "pet" are at different prices I was wondering how early she will be able to tell me (if they have a brown bitch in the litter at all) whether it is a show or pet dog. Not just because of the price but out of general curiosity I would like to know early. How, also, do I know whether a breeder is selling me a "show" dog at all and not just charging me more for a "pet" dog, this is what I mean by the trust? I have owned two dogs that have the same lines and there temp and form was amazing, this is, why I am going with this breeder.

Thanks all, extremely informative. The breed I am obtaining comes in two shades, I have given preference to a brown bitch, knowing I have now reduced my chances of this to around a quarter, my breeder, whom I trust, wants to keep the best bitch of the litter but if it turns out that the best bitch of the litter is the only brown girl she has asked whether I would be willing to show her on the breeders behalf. I'm not sure, I mean she may want to keep the bitch to breed from but I'm sure she would think it a waste for this show potential puppy to go to a no show home. Of course if there are two brown show potential bitches she will have first pick but in the case there is only one I'm not sure of the deal, I will call her and let you all know. Which leads me to my second question about breeders selling show potential puppies, is this where trust is needed, I am not extensively aware about all the attributes that make a great show dog and I know there are no guarantees but then how, do you know by paying more for this pup, that they are not faulted, particularly if your breeder, as mine, is based in a different state. Not seeing the pup until it comes to you and putting your trust in the breeder is this where a contract or an acknowledged letter comes in handy?

Hi all! I was just wondering how early in a puppies life, you can tell whether it is the "pick of the litter" or "show quality"? When I get my pup in January obviously I am going to be going on the breeders recommendation of pup but how long would I have to wait, after the puppy is conceived, to find out which puppy that will be? Is it something that isn't assessed until 8 weeks or do breeders know way earlier then that? TIA all

whatever, some humans just do not deserve to be alive, I way prefer dogs over humans and wouldnt mind seeing her suffer for what she has done, just because we are human does not make us superior, its horrible, she is horrible. the fb page is obviously not really her I mean comon, why give the police all the amo they need to lock you up?

My first doberman was from a "breeder" that seemed legit but now I look back and she definately wasnt... although Lita is 10 years old and stick kicking and the most beautiful tempered and natured dobe ever, I suspect she was actually the runt and she was sold to us at 5 weeks. The only problem we had with her was that she got so close to us she literally cried when we werent home even with the other dog and then later our next "pedigree" dobie. I was 11 at the time and it definately was not a puppy farm or pet shop seller but she was a BYB. The parents were healthy and happy and they lived on a huge "clean" farm so I feel like that semi-justifies it. My next dobe I am waiting till January for and have chosen one of the most reputable lovely breeders in the business. I dont condone breeding for a quick buck at all, I think it is horrible but I guess I dont know for sure that the breeder who bred my first dobe was like that, she could have just had the one litter, and although I was given the "runt" she is a lovely dog so I am in fact quite lucky.

thanks all! can anyone tell me what time on Friday 3 September the dobermans will be judged? good luck to all.

Hey I'm from Whyalla, not all that bad. Anyone taking their Dobermans to this show? I'll take the day off work to come down and view my favourite breed.