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Totem Spirit I am so very sorry to hear the sad news. Rest in Peace Koko and Demon :rolleyes:

In males it is a simple surgery. In females it is major abdominal surgery.

Ino, I didn't mean to be argumentative it's that I was worried when you asked if the oncologist knew I was giving a relatively high dose when I considered 12ppm to be a very low dose in the quantity I was giving. I don't think I had mentioned the quantity I was giving the dogs at that stage of our discussion When I was giving CS daily to my healthy dogs I was rebooting the generator to produce a ppm of around maybe 24+. This was due to the fact that the very first bottle of CS I purchased had a ppm of around 35-40. At this point I will not give CS to my osteosarcoma dog. Her system has enough medications and supplements to deal with as it is. Clearly, you know a lot more about CS than I do.

Arghh! This is doing my head in. I'm more confused now than I ever was. I'll hold off giving CS to my osteosarcoma dog until I consult with her oncologist and recommence dosing the other dogs here (who are enjoying good health) at a CS rate of 12ppm. May I repeat my question? I don't see an answer. If you consider 12ppm to be a relatively high dose of CS, what would you consider to be a moderate CS ppm as an initial dose. I would have thought that 12ppm is a low dose. My osteosarcoma dog weighs in at 47.6kg. Another thing that puzzles me is that surely the quantity given must be relative to what is consider to be a high does...or not. As in a teaspoon of 30ppm would be an infinitely lower dose than a 500ml of 12ppm. Not only that but the weight of the animal must surely come into the equation.

Ino, I'm unsure if your questions are directed at me? If so, the automatic generator switches off at 12 or 14 ppm, depending on the size of the container of water. I am able to boost it to 30+ ppm. I normally use it at about 20ppm. Since I am starting after a hiatus of 2 months I will begin at 12ppm and increase the ppm of the next batch to 20+ ppm. The generator has a thermal stirrer. The water I use is Nobles Pureau which contains no salt, bacteria, cholorine or mercury. There is no open wound. The gum tumour develops a small haematoma which erupts, disappears and redevelops. I don't interfere with this tumour in any way. There is a WARNING that came with this generator:- Do not drink large quantities of colloidal silver that has been made with impure water or tap water. Argyria has been know to occur when people have consumed large quantities of poor quality colloidal silver over a long period.

All dogs here have now resumed CS on a daily basis as of last night. My dog with osteosarcoma is under the care of an oncologist and is trialing a new drug regime. I did purchase the Robert McDowell OSA blend and the M Pine bark blend but they're not compatible with the drug regime Sophie is on so unfortunately she can't take them at this stage. Sophie takes a number of supplements that are ok with the drug regime. I run all supplements past the oncologist before giving them to Sophie and she has no problem with her taking CS. It'll be interesting to note if there are any changes in the tumour now that Sophie is having CS again. How silly of me to be spooked by scare tactics. At the moment she is taking coQ10 and Milk Thistle because her liver enzymes were high. Since taking these supplements her levels are within normal range.

I was giving CS daily to my dog who has osteosarcoma in her jaw and I stopped giving it to her not long after scare tactics were raised here. She was expected to live for only a very short time after diagnosis which was at the end of December. She's still here and there is no apparent evidence of metastasis. I have a CS generator and have it running right now making a fresh bottle of CS. I'll resume giving CS to her on a daily basis and wish to hell I hadn't stopped giving it to her over the last two months. Something slowed down the progression of her cancer and no one, including the oncologists can work out why she's is still quite well. She has a tumour on her gum which has increased in size which would be expected. Over the last few days this tumour has been bleeding a little. We'll see if anything improves or otherwise, now that she'll resume taking CS daily.

Thanks Oonga. Sophie and I share a loving bond. It's become stronger since her illness. Each day we have together is a bonus. She's teaching me what's important in life. She's her normal happy self today. I'll be more careful not to overtax her. Maybe she wasn't feeling well with all the nausea causing meds she's on. She's doing a mighty job of fighting her illness, against all odds and always with her gentle good grace.

Sophie is still quieter than usual but seems better than last night. She's lying here dreaming and vocalising at the moment. If she's still quiet tomorrow I'll take her to her vet if he's on duty, just to make sure there's not something going on that I'm missing. The tumour did bleed later today and I think it released pressure so she feels better. It doesn't seem to be painful, I accidently put my fingers on it when I cleaned her face and she didn't flinch. We spent some time lying on my bed together today while I told her the story of our life together and how I appreciate her. I have a CD called Animal Healing and I had that playing at the time. It's relaxing music. I call it Sophie's song. When I tell her we'll play Sophie's song she runs to the stereo while I put it on. This is about Sophie not me I know, but sometimes the stress takes its toll. The last thing she needs seeing me with the sads so I'd better get over it. Thanks for the hugs Kiash, I needed them. Shek, I keep the house at 22-23 degrees during the day and 17-18 degrees at night so she shouldn't be feeling cold. She wears a coat when we go out. Thanks for your concern folks.

Thanks for your concern for Sophie. She still seems very quiet and tired so we won't go out today. I think she probably would brighten up if I took her for a walk but it's probably better to let her rest. I gave her extra meds late last night in case she was feeling pain. It's difficult to tell with Sophie because she is so stoic and never shows any sign of pain. I try to maintain a balance between keeping her pain free and not having her lost somewhere in a fog of pain medication. She's an energetic, lively girl and I'd hate to rob her of her joy of life. Her mouth hasn't bled so far today and she slept well last night so maybe her lethargy is due to me keeping her out for too long. She ate her breakfast with enthusiasm and I can't really put my finger on why I feel she's not as well as she has been. She is more lively than she was last night but not her usual self. It could be me. I had an unpleasant day yesterday and could be projecting my mood onto Sophie.

I'm a bit worried about Sophie tonight. She doesn't seem to be her normal self. Maybe she's tired, we had a run in the park today...she seems very quiet. Her mouth tumour has been bleeding today. Still she happily ate her dinner without effort. I'll take her up to sleep on my bed with the electric blanket on and see how she goes overnight.

Fantastic news about Ollie's leg, Jodie. It's great to see him having fun.

So very sorry for your loss. Run free beautiful girl :rolleyes:

Thank you Chell for those lovely comments. Sophie is such a gentle, trusting girl who copes with all the tests she needs with her usual good grace and happy smile. The onco's are pleased with her and they often comment on the relationship Sophie and I share. Sophie's a special girl. Flava and Shek: Thanks for your concern. Sophie's doing well. Her FBE test was good and her levels are within normal range now. She's still the miracle girl who's astounding the onco's with her current good state of health and reasonably stable condition, considering her circumstances. The palliative care thread is of great value to those of us with terminally ill dogs. Caring for a loved and dying dog is a hard, heartbreaking road to travel. This thread is a place of great comfort when stark reality hits, as it often does. I come in here and read the posts of encouragement from folk who wish us well and it gives my spirits a lift. Your well wishes for Sophie are greatly appreciated.

I think your friend may have misunderstood the vet. Any dog over 6 months of age needs to be tested before giving heartworm medication. If there is break in giving heartworm meds to older dogs then they need to be tested again before recommencing the meds. Personally I would not give the heartworm injection to my dogs irrespective of age.

Harminee your portraits are so beautiful. What loving memories you are creating for the owners of dogs who've passed to the bridge.

Have pm'd you Kiash with the info...also Allerzeit and Oonga. edited to add that Sophie is doing ok.

Sophie's doing well thanks Oonga. Thanks for asking about her.

Kaz you need the vet to aspirate or maybe even biopsy the lump. It could be anything, either benign or malignant. I wouldn't like to suggest anything without knowing what the problem is.

That would be tomatoes DLS: The yoghurt you want is live culture yoghurt with acidophilus Jalna makes a good one called Fat Free Natural but it won't help much for a dog with diarrhoea. It's a dairy product and if the dog is lactose intolerant then chances are it won't help at all. I would suggest psyllium husks from the health food store. The added fibre might help. If the chicken and rice doesn't do the trick I would take the dog to the vet tomorrow.

If it's not working after 2 days I would quit the tomatoes. I've never heard of tomatoes being fed for this purpose. I don't feed them to my lot. Maybe a visit to the vet is in order.

Too many byproducts. There is no way of knowing what those byproducts are. I wouldn't feed either of these foods to my dogs. I believe you get what you pay for in dog food. If it's cheap then the ingredients are of poor quality.

Exactly, to mess around with a dog's main mealtime may cause problems down the track. Why not let the dog eat it's meal in peace. I wouldn't want my meal interrupted constantly because someone thinks it's a fun thing to do. My dogs get to eat their meal without interference. They eat shoulder to shoulder without issue because they know they have no need to protect their food and that no one is going to mess with their food and tease them.

Your dog is probably suffering motion sickness and is feeling very nauseous. The only thing I've found that works is metoclopramide from the vet. The human variety of metclopramide is Maxalon. None of my dogs has suffered car sickness but my son's dog did, quite badly. He would vomit every time they went in the car. He tried ginger calm tablets and gingernut biscuits, junket tablets and nothing worked until he gave the dog Maxolon. The dog had a Maxolon tablet every time he travelled in the car and never had any more problems.