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Yep. I am usually very restrained on DOL. But this has really hit a nerve and I am so, so angry and upset. I wish things like this didn't affect me, but I just .. I actually find this whole thing really offensive. I need to go for a run or something, it's just so f********** infuriating.

You did just pass judgment on them without even knowing them. Also is it now required to kennel all dogs? So any group that uses foster homes is bad and irresponsible if they dont have them live in kennels? How did I pass judgement? I said nothing about them needing kennels. You were the one who said you were going to keep the dogs inside your home and this person said that is what they do as well. I do not see how I have stated an untruth or passed judgement on any of these things? I merely said that it appeared to me that the two of you were "networking" and I believed the dog may have gone there. If she didn't, then surely you could have just corrected me? Sorry seemed you thought something was wrong with not having kennels. We did have another rescue step up to take Ina guess its good we didnt send Lucky to GSN or maybe they would be awful for "networking" with us. I guess the recent accident with FOTH makes them horrible too. I swear there is no pleasing some people. Mistakes happen and its how you learn and grow is what matters. No dogs were harmed, no dogs were put down, no dogs got dumped at a shelter so like I said shit happens and we just have to move on The thing that you clearly don't understand is that by "helping" these two dogs, whereby they have ended up in others' care, you have actually increased the workload of others, who already have their own dogs and plans in place for taking on and rehoming dogs. The aim of your rescue was to try and act as a safety net for the dogs that don't get to GSN, GAP, etc. That's what you seemed to try and convey. But by taking on dogs and then needing to get htem off your hands in such a hurry, others stepped up and did that for you. If you had "sent Lucky to GSN" - what about the other dogs that GSN had planned to take that particular week? What about thier foster carers? See, all organisations have particular ways of operating, and most don't try and do it by the seat of their pants. Though lord knows that's what ends up happening sometimes. One of the reasons joining up wtih an existing rescue would have been good, would be that you would have been able to take on a dog, so that their capacity could increase and you'd be able to assist them, provide them with some respite, and learn. Instead, you've created extra workload for everybody. Think of it like this. You have a carton of eggs, which has the capacity to have 12 eggs. Your hens constantly produce them and sometimes you can stack them on top of the other eggs, but you REALLY only have capacity to safely hold 12 eggs. If osmeone comes along and gives you another couple of eggs, which otherwise are going to be dropped - you might be able to take them on. You'll stop the eggs from cracking, but what does that mean for the eggs that your hens are producing? You still only have room in the carton for 12. What you have done is come along with dogs and move them on to others, who no doubt ALREADY HAVE a list of dogs that they would love to take on, and are waiting for room to take.

Such a great outcome, considering the point of difference of this "rescue", and the reason for starting a new one rather than foster for an existing one, was to have more control over where the dogs go. Rather than having to deal with an existing set of rules and policies.

I understand that. I also plan to get into contact with GSN and see if they would like to chat a bit after the holidays, maybe give some pointers, maybe once settled see if they need help, a foster, or any transport help or home checks. We just arnt doing any of it until after the new year. What a novel idea. If only someone had thought of that before.

Thanks annie, for giving a first hand example of this. Greyluvr, this is exactly the reason that people took an interest and were concerned about what you were going to do in the first place. I wish people didn't have to make mistakes themselves to learn from those that others have made. Particularly when they are so preventable.

I've been reading all these books on dog behaviour and communication etc - I can no longer watch a video like that and just go 'aww', I can't help trying to interpret every slight movement.. it's ruined me! :laugh:

Oh, right. We've also taken on dogs from other Rescues when they've felt they weren't properly equipped so I don't see a huge issue with that either. Whatever's best for the dog. Ah but Plan B the drama queens just suck this up and I hate to think that people with so little compassion are working with rescues Most of the people who have posted in this thread work with rescues, run them, or have some interest and/or involvement with rescue. This isn't a group of people throwing tomatoes from the ringside, they're already in there getting their hands dirty. I don't even know what to say. You can reject everybody's advice, put your head in the sand and assure people that you know what you're doing and you've got it under control. But when the first thing that happens is an emergency that means others step in and take things off your hands.. please, please please take a step back. Re-evaluate this situation with a cool head. There's being ill equipped to deal with someone or something, and then there' embarking on something and being in over your head.

Stan ate every cherry tomato in my vegie patch the first year I got him and he was fine. There were random tomato plants popping up all over the back yard, just mowed over them though...I know where they'd been. :laugh: ahh Stan Stan is a funny fella , Stan's the man LOL Yes Stanley the nutter strikes again. It's been suggested by friends that I write a book called "The Adventures Of Stan" :laugh: I know it's totally off topic, but I just LOVE that he's called Stan! Every time I read it I get this image of him in my head grinning. I feel like I know him! Aww, stan

I believe that the Lort Smith provide some sort of payment plan - I remember reading about one man who had just paid off his dog's desexing. It may have been in that story in the Age a few weeks ago, or it may have been somewhere else.. but it was definitely the Lort Smith. I know they're also doing various fundraisers to try and recoup some of the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount owed to them from people who HAVEN't paid for their animals' treatment! So clearly they payment plans or things available.

It just makes it harder :/ It limits the number of homes they can go to, and where you can take them etc. Particularly when there is no shortage of greyhounds, and many ARE fine with small dogs. "Cat friendly" greys are snapped up much quicker, and some rescues seem to have waiting lists for them. Some rescues won't adopt out greyhounds that aren't ok with small dogs, and some I'm sure don't even test properly.

God, and for it all to happen at hte Dogs Day Out.. what a joke. There were probably hundreds more people were at KCC on that day than any other day of the year.

I think there are myriad things. I don't think it would have been any different if it were any other breed, or a more general rescue. You need to think things through before embarking on these things. Assuming everything will be ok isn't enough. It's not like there wasn't significant amounts of advice given here, or questions to think through - this forum can be such a great resource, but you have to actually use it. It's making me angry just thinking about it. I just went and bathed a dog to distract myself from this thread. Sigh. I still really hope Greylvr comes in here and we're all mistaken and it was actually a different dog, or something. And that she's still got them and is going to rehome them.

She was going to do it privately though, and just take on a dog or a few at a time, without actually registering an organisation. But come on - I'd ask my neighbours before even getting another dog, let alone operating a rescue (even if it was "private"). Things aren't always rosey. Good intentions and a love for dogs isn't enough, I wish people would bloody understand that. The dogs are the ones that suffer in the end.

I really hope that's not true, even if you're not going to cross your Ts and dot your I's, you'd assume that checking with neighbours would be somewhere near the top of things to do before embarking on something like this.

What a gorgeous looking dog, he doesn't look 9 years at all! He looks like a totally different guy in the last photo, well done on getting him into ship shape so quickly, I'm sure he feels 100% better not having to lug the extra chub around.

Um... if I show you these pictures, will you still think I'm kind? The poor boy though this days of cruelty were behind him. At my house, we do animal abuse a bit differently... ;)

But that's gun dogs, greyhounds are hounds built to chase. I've only fostered one greyhound, but he'd lunge and try to get at the cat.. he would fixate from a distance and the lunging would be trying to get at them.

We are lucky enough to have a foster who has taken it upon himself to guard it..

She looks gorgeous, and nice and relaxed tucked up like that. I love those greyhound jumpers, I can't help but laugh when I see greys wearing those polar fleece ones stretched over their chests, I love it :laugh: Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

No I have no problems with anyone here except one who has proven to just want to be nasty. I mean if you dont like it and have nothing to give the conversation but rude, snarky comments then just dont reply thats easy but like you said have to take the good with the bad so no worries. I have been reading the thread but boy is it long lol I know, but you have to also separate what you think of a person from what they say. There are people on this forum whose opinion I really respect and value, but who at the same time I kind of hate. Sometimes I open a thread, see someone's avatar and groan, roll my eyes, or read a post and think ".... b*tch" or "wow, I can't believe they just wrote that" but also.. yep, fair point. Or, yep, I bloody hate *insert name here* but they know a hell of a lot about whatever breed/condition/etc. There are here who I'd NEVER be friends with in real life, and people I'm friends with in real life who I'd hate if I saw them posting here. There are also some people who I can't make up my mind about - on one hand I think they're completely tactless and rude, but on the other hand they're extremely knowledgeable and experienced, and if I needed advice on something I'd go to them and would be confident in their opinion. So sometimes it's not about being friends with someone - there's no use surrounding yourself wiht yes men who will pat you on the back and be supportive all the time. Sometimes you need tough love, a bit of a wake up slap, someone to tell you to pull your head in, or someone to give you the cold hard truth. If you want to have a good, well respected and longstanding rescue that does good work for dogs, you need to learn from these people and take on board what they say, even if it's not what you want to hear, or isn't delivered in a friendly tone. ETA - and if people are rude TO you, so much the better. It's the ones who don't tell you what they really think that you need to watch out for.

I am trying to be helpful here - in all of my posts I have tried to be helpful and to pre-empt issues that you are likely to face. I have to say I have read the last few pages with increasing frustration though. Please read the Pound Rounds thread from start to finish. As Plan B said (and as you have witnessed!) most people in any part of the dog world won't agree on anything, and very very rarely do that many people share an opinion about a particular thing. Pound Rounds is a dangerous thing to be associated with, and taking a dog from them is an association, and implicit in it is support for their organisaiton and things they do. That is why I was so at pains to stress the importance of getting to know the lie of the land from existing, well recognised and well respected groups. Deciding that you didn't want anything to do with them because people here held them in high regard, and then going to PR rings alarm bells for me. When I talk about "competition" in rescue, this is what I mean - I would not financially support your organisation, or PR, but would gladly give my money to GSN. I wouldn't give it to GAP. I donate to particular rescues and not others - and I support some in kind and not others. That's the competition. If you are worried about people liking your page, following your rescue and making comment here, please re-think talking publicly about what you are doing. If you're going to take the good, you have to take hte bad - understanding the rescue landscape is so, so important.

God, an average of one rehome a day is amazing. Great work!

This may be useful and interesting to other people here - I just found a link to a free webinar by Patricia McConnell () based on her book 'Love Has No Age Limit'. It was live in early December but you can watch it online. I'm a huge McConnell fan (one might say "obsessive") and think everyone should read her books, but I've never seen a webinar before. It's really interesting. http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/aspca-webinar-december-6-2012 You have to give a name and email address, download a little add on and then it plays. It's 1 hour long.

wow. Yep, that's ridiculous. Not to mention, it has next to no bearing on the amount of money someone would be prepared to spend on a dog.

I've saved many dogs from close calls lately. I must be highly attuned to escaped dogs, because I see them all the time and return them back home safely. I moved into a new house in July, and since then have saved no less than 5 dogs being hit by cars..