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I have seen a very, very experience exhibitor and Judge allow a newbie to use one of her dogs over a bitch that was completely below standard. The person who owned the stud dog is very much a "name" and a "face". I complimented the stud dog owner on allowing their dog to be used by this newbie and they said - without people helping the newbies, the newbies quickly get disheartened and leave. Most people in the stud dog owner's position would have said "no way" to the enquiry but instead this person has assisted the newbie with both use of a stud dog and referrals for better quality dogs. Shame that there are not more people like this stud dog owner. I would name them but they would hate the publicity.

Thanks - great option - have passed her details on.

I have friends in Sydney looking for a Border Collie or Border Collie X pup or young adult. They are experienced working dog people and have 2 children aged approximately 5 & 7. The dog would go to work with the husband where possible. They have recently lost their much loved dog to snake-bite and spent a lot of money trying to save her life, so they are responsible owners.

Oh wow..... four little heartbeats. I hope that your girl and her four babies continue to fight and make it. I can't imagine how you must be feeling. Hugs

I had a go of this last night with two of my dogs and they LOVED it!!!! It was everything I was hoping it would be and they took to it like ducks to water, not surprising for scenthounds I suppose!

It all depending on the microchip registry - some of them require details from the new owner and therefore payment has to come from them - well that is how it used to be anyway

With my last litters I was lucky that the DOL listing was sufficient to find homes for my puppies as one of the "find a dog" websites has Fauves on it these days (I *think* the Purina one). I wasn't expecting it to be so easy and had thought that I would probably advertise on-line elsewhere. I won't lie, I was concerned about the risk of censure from some.

I have sold pups to homes where people worked full-time because that particular pup could cope with the home offered. I have just knocked back a home for an adult Fauve to a home where the people worked full-time because he wouldn't cope with being an only dog in a home where people are away for that long BECAUSE I work from home and have a multi-dog household and that is what he is accustomed to. Its a real bugger because it was, in all other ways a truly fabulous home for a great little dog. With my breed I actually think they can become too dependent on having people around all the time and do much, much better learning to be alone for larger periods of time than ever happens in my home. Jed - make your own decisions but don't criticise others for doing the right thing by their dogs, their breed, their households etc differently to you.

You know what guys - whilst NOT all rescue dogs have issues, why is it so unbelievable that someone has one with issues??? And Nic B you were bloody rude, regardless of your personal opinion. :mad Disgraceful behaviour from someone I thought better of.

Unimaginable.... how horrific.

Having done all breeds rescue for 6 years and having hundreds of pups and dogs through my home in that time I have come to the conclusion that I *like* a lot of dogs but I sure as hell don't want to live with many of them. One of my all time favourite breeds to rescue were kelpies - solid temperaments, easy to train and easy to care for BUT I also recognise that I"m not suited to own one long term. However, if I couldn't ever own a Fauve I would probably rescue a kelpie or kelpie x of approximately 12 months of age.

So I initially answered this based simply on the poll, without reading your initial post. I have run an all-breeds rescue for 6 years. In that time only once did we foster-fail and it was a scenthound mix (Bloodhound x Foxhound). I have had a number of dogs who we NEARLY kept - all of them sighthounds, except for one awesome little scruffy terrier. For the last 6 years I have shown dogs and, for the last 2 years, been a breeder (having 3 litters) of Basset Fauve De Bretagne - a scenthound. I can tell you categorically that I am a hound person. My husband is a hound person too, though is preferred hound is an Italian Greyhound lol. I spent the first 30 plus years of my life being a confirmed "mutt" owner BUT honestly don't think I would pick a mutt again, unless it was a hound mix. I like hounds. They have a different style and a different way to other dogs. My friend owns Border Collies and can't understand how I can possibly stand to have such "dumb" dogs.... I don't understand how she can stand to have such boring dogs who stand by you waiting for instruction. :laugh: In my experience of running an all-breeds rescue the vast majority (I would guesstimate to be between 80% and 90%) were from backyard, mum & dad type breedings. About 2% to 5% were from registered breeders. Of those we were able to confirm came from registered breeders, sadly only about 10% of the breeders gave a toss that a dog of their breeding was in the pound. I have been brutally torn apart on DOL previously for "outing" a breeder who refused to take a dog of their breeding :laugh: and have witnessed a pound cop hell for selling a main register dog, surrendered to the pound with pedigree papers signed by the breeder (but never transferred under Dogs NSW or any other body) to another breeder & show person. However I have also seen mum & dad breeders of their much loved Molly (mated to next door's Max) come in and purchase pups they had bred. Long story short, there is good and bad everywhere, if I had to choose again I would only go pedigree from a breeder I personally knew!

Its difficult to give an accurate response to this as I AM a registered breeder. Should I choose to stop breeding today I have two young pups here of 5 months of age. One would hope that they will live for another 10 years plus each so the reality is that I am, at least 10 years from the position where I am left without ANY dog at all. I know, from previous experience, that I simply can't live without a dog (in my 45 years of life I have lived without a dog for 12 months as a child) so if I ever got to a point where I had (a) stopped breeding and (b) had no dogs and © had no registered breeder from whom I could purchase another Fauve I would approach a rescue group for a suitable dog. However I can't imagine those circumstances happening for a very, very long time, if at all.

Yeah this is how I look at it. LOL if it did I would save my horrible chair-giving up children first. Yes exactly. I too have worked in rescue and have a large dog pack. I also end up, as I said previously, with a large "kid" pack (two unanticipated kids sleeping over tonight). My kids and my dogs are treated with respect and love BUT they have rules and boundaries - I have different rules and boundaries to you obviously, but that doesn't mean that my kids or dogs are poorly treated or disrespected. I would expect that if my children (or dogs) went to your house that they would abide by your rules no matter how different they may be to mine and I would expect that if your children came to my house they would be abide by my rules. If I went to my vet and your dog was sitting on the seat I would think it was odd :laugh: (but then there are only 2 seats at my vets). I wouldn't tell you to get them to get off the seat BUT I wouldn't be overly surprised if the vet's staff asked you to.

Agreed though I believe that in my home I have the right to demand a child move so an adult can sit. I, however, would not allow my child to sit when an adult had to stand anywhere.

I have been taught and continue to believe that if there are only 2 seats (as an example) and there are 2 adults & 3 kids, the adults sit. To me it is common courtesy, like saying please & thank you, holding a door open etc. I would expect my 10 year old to move for my 21 year old, I would expect my 21 year old to move for me and I would, in turn move for someone older than me.

I don't get upset by it - I simply wouldn't allow mine to do it. No I teach my children courtesy and respect. I adore my children but was raised that a child should sit on my lap or the floor to provide a seat for an adult. I have a life - a full and rich life with my lovely dogs and my beautiful, well-behaved children - its simply different to yours ETA - and if you were at my house and your child was sitting in a seat not leaving one available for me I WOULD tell them to move - my house, my rules. And yet strangely enough, these children who are "treated this way" come back time and time again to stay at my house - our house is regularly full of children. Children should be taught to give up their seat for an adult. It's simply common courtesy. I feel sorry for children who grow up without being taught manners and common courtesy but it does explain the way some children behave on public transport and in shopping centres. I guess your children will not be taught to stand for the elderly or a pregnant woman on public transport. Will you teach them that it's quite ok to take up two seats in a crowded bus/tram while adults stand? One seat for themselves and one for their bag and to put their feet on? My son joined the reserves in the Army. The reserves were required to dine with the officers from time to time. My son said it was sad how many of the younger reserves had absolutely no table manners or even any common courtesy. They had no idea how to behave in a certain formal situation. He thanked me for teaching him table etiquette and general good manners as he felt at ease in any company and in any situation. Good manners, respect for those older than ourselves and common courtesy will never go out of fashion or be thought of as 'older' thinking. It is up to parents to arm their children with good manners, it serves them well as they mature into adults. :clap:

She had 8 starting midnight Christmas day..... then a C-section on boxing day..... not the first nights sleep I have lost because of pups... however 4 boys and 4 girls, all well and contented, Mum being very good, I have been "sleeping" in with them so far, sleep being a relative term as most of us here know. Want to see a Pic, or is that a silly question ? Oh they are lovely - congrats, I know you will love every minute!

For me its simple - seats are for humans, kids move off them for adults ALWAYS and dogs are only allowed on them when invited by the owner of the establishment in which the chairs are placed. To me it is simple courtesy. I've been shocked by how many people think its okay to let their dog do it :laugh: as I would NEVER allow mine to do it any more than I would allow my child to sit in a seat whilst an adult stood. ETA - would people allow their dogs to sit on chairs in a cafe or is it simply because it is a vet's surgery it is okay?

I wouldn't let my dogs sit on the seats - I personally think it is rude to have your dog sit on a seat that doesn't belong to you. Each to their own.

No, as you well know, you are not allowed to tell me that for about 5 years :laugh:

Yes but not many greyhounds get the kind of conditioning that the ones you work with get m-j. I would trust yours if you told me I could, but that is because I know you.

Yeah it is a lovely statement BUT in my opinion, it doesn't take into account many things. It doesn't take into account how many greyhounds are out there who are DEADLY to small animals. Until you've had a high prey greyhound in your home, you won't understand what I mean, in the same way that I didn't until I had a rescue greyhound attempting to climb my blinds to get to my cat. They are insanely fast and lethal. It doesn't take into account how easily they scar - my beautiful greyhound, raised in my home from puppyhood, had some terribly scars from being a silly, very active puppy. Their skin tears like gladwrap and they have such terribly short fur that it often scars when in most other breeds it wouldn't. It is very easy to see the beautiful, calm greyhounds that end up in pet homes who have no prey drive BUT it is vital to remember that some of them are terribly scary animals. GAP in all states have done a fabulous job of ensuring that the very best of greyhounds wind up in pet homes. Should I ever get another greyhound it would either be from Rebanne ( :laugh:, so I could show) OR it would come from GAP where I knew it to be cat safe, small dog safe and good with kids.

Congrats Jacobite!! Been a while since your last litter - will look forward to seeing how many you have