Sheridan

I often get contacted about potential wheatens in pounds. There was one that was a cross (probably!) but none of the others have been wheatens. I'm always pleased that people bother to ask even if I do wish for a bit more info and better photos.

I've had someone very familiar with wheatens say that Grumpy isn't anything like wheatens they were familiar with. I just said that Grumpy was what wheatens were supposed to look like.

I don't have a dalmatian but did adopt a 10-year-old. A more energetic (now) 16-year-old I couldn't imagine. Oldies are joy.

Unfortunately, Steve, everytime you post on this subject it really does sound like you're defending commercial breeders. And Erny, I wasn't attempting to 'write it up'. Nor would I attempt to do so. Writing legislation is a specialist's job and I suspect no one in this thread has the necessary qualifications.

To my mind a puppyfarmer is a commercial dog breeder as if they're cows going to market. It has nothing to do with substandard conditions.

This is the first time I've had two dogs. I think I could go to three, probably a boy and two girls but I'd have to be very careful about temperament and i certainly wouldn't get another while I had Grumpy. Grumpy and Mini are very well matched. He cares about two things: food and toys. Anything else, he will tell her off if she gets too annoying but that's it. She adores him but is independent of him at the same time. Luck of the draw but given the terrier temperament, I'd look to this above anything else.

The first day Mini was here Grumpy was 'Oooh, a girl!' Next day it was 'Oh, she's still here. Where's my breakfast?'

No BOB in the wheatens.

Could you block off one room for her with baby gates that would give the feel of the playpen?

There's a lovely terrier mix called Toby on the Animals Lost, Found and Need Re-Homing mid north coast Facebook group.

I'm not sure what the OP is looking for here. But here's what may happen if she (he?) never takes her dog to the vet: parvo distemper infected cuts heartworm. At least. Sway certainly had it right, that the OP chose this path. Yes, the dog may have died anyway but the OP will never know if the dog might well have lived. To the OP: find a vet for your dog.

That's good to know, ta.

Jus querying if anyone rescues from Kempsey pound? It's near Port Macquarie apparently.

Only chipped pets? Who the hell are you to dictate what pets should have a chance to find their owners? People who decide to keep and worse sell someone else's pets? Take the animals to the pound where their owners have the chance to find them. These apparently feral animals are probably not feral at all. Feral cats are notoriously difficult to handle. Take the mama cat to the pound and ask for a duty of care - all LEGAL then! Yes that would have been good at the time HOWEVER this was before i started working with rescue groups so i didnt know you could do that. The public does not know you can do that. The public isn't as ignorant as you seem to think.

If your contention is that a dog or cat would be better given away to a rescue where the owner will NEVER be able to find it rather than spend any time in a pound where the owner has a chance to find their missing pet then your contention is idiotic.

Why don't you tell them to take the animal to the pound? People don't look for their missing pets in rescues. Except that everyone I've ever spoken to has either put posters up or posted their lost pets on facebook, when I have suggested the pounds for them to check, they tell me they never thought of checking there. So instead you tell people who find dogs to give them away to rescue even though you already knew that people should look in the pound.

Why don't you tell them to take the animal to the pound? People don't look for their missing pets in rescues.

Kerry blue terriers, not kerry terriers. :) And yes, water, all over the floor but not for long cos they like to wipe their beards on the carpet, furniture and you. :laugh: For anyone who wants a lakie, there is one on Gumtree. I have emailed a bunch of breeders and posted in the UK Terrier thread.

It was chicken that did it for Grumpy last Christmas, though it wasn't confirmed that it was pancreatitis. Because of the symptoms it was determined to treat it as though it was. He gets his Vivitonin tablet in a piece of sliced chicken twice a day and that's it. Everything but one type of bikkie and liver treats is fish-based now. No bones, no ears.

Who is this person?

This forum IS hilarious. Tree Hugging Greenie.. My definition. My words, for those who criticise ethical breeders for everything they do. Damned if a breeder does, Damned if a breeder doesn't. I have no issue of breeders putting to sleep their white boxers, if they feel they need to do this. As long as it is done humanely and for the right reasons. At the end of the day, they have to live with those decisions. Wuffles: I could don't care if you agree with me or not. You have your opinion, I have mine. I have produced half white faced puppies and I BAER tested them. If they were deaf, they would have been put to sleep. I have put to sleep puppies as old as 3 weeks and even put to sleep a 14 month dog I bred and later rescued back. Better I did it than the pound. Just because YOUR dog is not deaf, and it was from normally marked parents, and IS allowed in the standard, does not necessarily benchmark everything else for those in the Boxer breed. I'm a bit confused. This thread established that breeders know the combination that produces white boxers. Can't the whole pts thing be avoided in the first place by not breeding that combination? How is it responsible to deliberately breed together two dogs knowing deaf dogs may well be the end result? Shouldn't the breed club dictate should not to pts white boxers but not breed for them in the first place? As Ms Hanson put it so aptly, please explain?

Ah, breeding for the show ring. Of course.

So the SA Government doesn't trust its own inspectors.

Question: if breeders know which mix of boxer colours will produce a white boxer, why do it? It's clearly not just BYBs or puppyfarmers producing potentially deaf boxers.

Why are you breeding from a dog with such huge food issues that you created your own brand of dog food to combat these issues? Will you be advising your puppy buyers that your dog has huge food issues? Does Augustine's breeder know?