dasha Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I agree Zayda... the nornmal is 6 months or so but if they do show signs earlier they are generally bad and will have a teriible life of the scratches....... or costly treatments for ever. I had a BC that was a chronic scratcher. He also started early and we did food trials, cortisone etc but drew the line at allergy testing. In reality the vet felt his allergies were a combination of food and environment. As we live on 5 acres and have horses, cats as well as a whole paddock full of grasses so I guess the results would have shown so many allergies that to treat him would mean he nearly would have to live in a pen or something to minimise contact with life. He aged early and his spine had problems from scratching all the time, his teeth wore out his skin was all inflamed. In the end he was 11 years old and looked about 16. I would not wish that life on any dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ok- two things, both related... All the vet said was it was prop an allergy to something she'ss lying on and to keep upto date with flea treatments and bath twice weekely. When we asked what flea stuff to give a puppy he said not to worry until she's fully grown. Another vet would probably be MUCH more helpful!! (and knowledgable) AND The mum had sores all over her and a yucky coat! When you take her to the NEW VET in a few days..... tell them this fact!!! The pups may well have a low grade bacterial/yeast parasite load, transferred from the mother. please find another vet who will work on what you have told us. Don't fuss around at home ... it may not be allergy related at all.... or- it may be an inherited allergy, and the mother's condition could be the result of an untreated case I hope you get something sorted soon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) 13 weeks old puppies can be allergic and it does happen and it's not rare. Edited February 2, 2009 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitka Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sadly the only really good vet around here is really hard to get into if your a new client and we have no specialist around here Is this what wandering jew looks like? http://www.weeds.asn.au/weeds/txts/wand_jew.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Is this what wandering jew looks like? yep A very common cause of allergic reaction... pups love to roll in it, and chew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 We had a similar problem with itching when we brought our puppy home a 9 weeks old. (Although may not be as severe as yours, and he came from a very reputable breeder) He was scratching a lot and developed dandruff. I first thought it may have been a grass allergy and searched the yard for anything suspicious, ie. wandering jew but couldn't find any. What I did was to add a teaspoon of flax seed oil (from the chemist) to each meal. I also gradually added more and more fresh food to his dry mix and started using both Aloveen shampoo plus the conditioner once per week. I had been using only the shampoo as he has a very short coat, but started using the conditioner too after it was suggested to me by a groomer and it made a HUGE difference By doing all these things our problem was gone within about 2 weeks. You could try the flax oil and see if it works for you. It's pretty cheap, available from most chemists and health food stores and will not do your puppy any harm. Fish oils and/or a small tin of sardines in the puppy's meal once or twice a week is also good. As far as mince, I'm not sure if all IGA stores are the same but I buy mine from there too. However, I buy the premium human grade beef mince which says preservative free on it, not the pet mince. I also buy other bits and pieces from there like chicken hearts/liver/necks/wings, lamb shanks etc, whatever is on special.. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Whitka, until you know what's causing this, all you can do is manage the itching. Resisoothe lotion may help. Quititch is another product you can use. Did the vet consider mange or ringworm? Given your pups early environment, I'd be wanting those eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitka Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 PF vet didnt really say much about it, I going to make an app with him again this time be more direct with the problems if again nothing then im going to have to get on a wait list for the good vet. It's upsetting as I told my dad what would happen if he got her, the mum was a good warning sign well I thought anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I going to make an app with him again this time be more direct with the problems Good for you. Write/type everything down! Questions on flea treatment etc, pup's history.... remember...YOU are paying HIM.. He is there to answer your questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I going to make an app with him again this time be more direct with the problems Good for you. Write/type everything down! Questions on flea treatment etc, pup's history.... remember...YOU are paying HIM.. He is there to answer your questions! Yep. Be sure to show him the bare patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitka Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 CJ has been to the vet and he had a very good look at her. Said that her skin looks good and doesnt think it's mites or fleas. He said to start flea treatment, bathing her once a week with Aloveen and add flax seed oil to her diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffi Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 CJ has been to the vet and he had a very good look at her. Said that her skin looks good and doesnt think it's mites or fleas. He said to start flea treatment, bathing her once a week with Aloveen and add flax seed oil to her diet. Seems like your vet has no idea what is wrong with your pup Did he do any skin scraping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Sorry- the vet sounds either young or not really concerned... mange mites can only be 'seen' under a microscope- in a skin scraping- so if he didn't do that- then it 'could' be mites Fleas... well, it only takes ONE bite to make a dog itch. The flea/s then jump off... and, of course when one looks- there are no fleas to be seen. What was his comment when you told him of the mother dog's poor condition? He wasn't worried that something could have been passed on? What flea treatment did he recommend/sell you? At least he did that much - and the aloveen sounds a good plan The flaxseed oil- was that after you had mentioned it? Hopefully she will improve with this plan .. poor little thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitka Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) He said it could be something the mum has passed on as well as other things, he didnt do a skin scrapping even when I did mention it. he sais to use Advantge wich is what I use for Toby. Im going to give this plan a go and see if it helps, if not, im changeing vets. Edited February 3, 2009 by whitka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Im going to give this plan a go and see if it helps, if not, im changeing vets. that's about all you can do , really... best of luck with her.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Can you see another vet at the same clinic?? I was really unhappy with the vet I saw when I took Kei for his first check-up. He is a pure-breed Ridgeback (with a beautiful ridge :D) and the first thing she said to me when I put him on the table was 'and what breed is your dog?' what the... then spent the entire consult trying to convince me to book him in for the pro-heart shot (no, I didn't get it) Didn't even check him properly.. just looked in his mouth and said he was ok, then charged me $55! :p: Anyway, I was fuming and rang the surgery back the next day to tell them how upset I was.... Got an appointment that day with a new vet (who was very good) and wasn't charged a cent I hope you can find it new vet that you like and will listen to your concerns. It's very frustrating when they treat you like that, not to mention expensive! Hopefully it's nothing nasty and puppy gets better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Lablover she's from a backyard breeder and is a lab x golden. She's my dad's dog and despite me tracking down a good lab breeder he still got her, I went with him to point out all the things to watch out for and there were pleanty. The mum had sores all over her and a yucky coat! I am having computer problems, due to newly installed graphics so some posts are not the best, has your vet discounted (the various forms of) mange? Our problem girl had severe atopic dermatitis. Her symptoms itchiness and hair loss became a concern about about 12 weeks of age (around her anus and eyes) slowly becoming significant - HORRIBLE. O the treatments we tried. As you need a diagnosis, it may be best asking for a referral to a canine skin specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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