Luke W Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Suggestions for tear stains on a cocker? He's got tear staining on one eye, not much, but noticeable. Should I wipe his eye regularly with someone? Is there anything I could use to remove it? Anything that will stop it from reoccurring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Hi Luke, do you have any idea what is causing it? One of my girls gets tear staining on only one eye and I asked the vet about it and on close examination the vet thinks she could see tiny little eye lashes growing on the inside of the eye lid which causes irritation and therefore makes the eye weep causing the tear staining. I asked the vet if it can be fixed and she said it can but they are unwilling to sedate a dog to fix the problem as it is not a huge issue but they would however do the procedure if she had to have something else done at the same time. This may not be the trouble with your boy and Im unsure what else would cause the problem in one eye only? Hope someone else has some clues. I have tried some stuff called crystal eye, but you have to keep at it all the time. also I had a friend tel me once the dog is bathed and dryed and brushed etc cut away the stained area if possible and then apply vasiline to the area, this does work however once again it is something you have to keep up on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) Hi Luke, do you have any idea what is causing it? One of my girls gets tear staining on only one eye and I asked the vet about it and on close examination the vet thinks she could see tiny little eye lashes growing on the inside of the eye lid which causes irritation and therefore makes the eye weep causing the tear staining. I asked the vet if it can be fixed and she said it can but they are unwilling to sedate a dog to fix the problem as it is not a huge issue but they would however do the procedure if she had to have something else done at the same time. This may not be the trouble with your boy and Im unsure what else would cause the problem in one eye only? Hope someone else has some clues. I have tried some stuff called crystal eye, but you have to keep at it all the time. also I had a friend tel me once the dog is bathed and dryed and brushed etc cut away the stained area if possible and then apply vasiline to the area, this does work however once again it is something you have to keep up on a regular basis. Maybe there's an underlying problem. While we were away - he developed an irritation in that eye (he did have staining before that though). He started rubbing that eye and the fur around his eye disappeared. The vet (not my regular vet) suggested some sort of dermatitis and gave me some antibiotics and come cortisone cream. He quickly stopped rubbing the eye and I think the hair is slowly growing back. The tear stains are still there and seem to be getting worse. I think that the stains around his lip fold are getting worse too (same side as his eye stains). I've seen Angel's Eyes on the net - but it's expensive! Several hundred dollars in the first few months. ps - the fur around his eyes is clipped very short. Edited July 29, 2009 by Luke W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claireybell Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Luke - I've noticed with my cocker that she will get weepy eyes if her ears are playing up. I can look at her ears and see nothing and smell nothing but then i will give them a good squirt with solution and muck will come out. Once her ears are sorted the weepy eyes stop. Maybe check out his ears. I have no idea about the staining, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Cleaning the eye area with a product called Kojo eye conditioner may help get rid of the staining. We used it with our Shih Tzus, one required daily cleaning. But I would still be inclined to find out if there are any underlying issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 First of all, I would be heading to a veterinary opthalmologist to rule out an eye problem. There can be many things causing tear staining, but if it is one eye only, I'd be very suspicious of a blocked tear duct, distichiasis (extra eyelashes growing inside the lids) or entropion (eyelid folding inwards causing the eyelashes to irritate the eyeball). It is VITAL that it be treated if there is an external problem. Continued irritation on the eyeball can lead to corneal ulceration and ultimately blindness. There are other things that it could be, but this would be my first step in ruling out the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 First of all, I would be heading to a veterinary opthalmologist to rule out an eye problem. There can be many things causing tear staining, but if it is one eye only, I'd be very suspicious of a blocked tear duct, distichiasis (extra eyelashes growing inside the lids) or entropion (eyelid folding inwards causing the eyelashes to irritate the eyeball).It is VITAL that it be treated if there is an external problem. Continued irritation on the eyeball can lead to corneal ulceration and ultimately blindness. There are other things that it could be, but this would be my first step in ruling out the problem. *sigh* Off to the vet today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie1 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 First of all, I would be heading to a veterinary opthalmologist to rule out an eye problem. There can be many things causing tear staining, but if it is one eye only, I'd be very suspicious of a blocked tear duct, distichiasis (extra eyelashes growing inside the lids) or entropion (eyelid folding inwards causing the eyelashes to irritate the eyeball).It is VITAL that it be treated if there is an external problem. Continued irritation on the eyeball can lead to corneal ulceration and ultimately blindness. There are other things that it could be, but this would be my first step in ruling out the problem. Mine has tearing out the one eye only, took him to opthamologist and he had a blocked tear duct and follicular conjunctivitis which the normal vet did not pick up, he had to have the follicules popped manually. We are 5 days into the eye ointment treatment and the eye is still running so I will probably have to take him back to the specialist after we have used the cream for 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 sigh*Off to the vet today. Sowwy. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Molly has a bit of weepy eye, and slight hair loss and the vet said it was just due to her being a puppy, her immune system was down, and it was just a bacterial thing. We wipe Molly's eyes with warm salty water solution, and it seems to stop the weeping. Fingers crossed it's all ok Luke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Couldn't get an appointment for this afternoon - got one for 9.30am tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Kitty, with all due respect to your vet, keep an eye on it and if the weeping doesn't stop, PLEASE see a canine eye specialst vet. It has been my experience over the years that many vets just don't have a clue when it comes to eyes. I had a dog permanently blinded by pigmentation growing over his eye as a result of an uninvestigated corneal ulceration that came from distichiasis that could have been treated. He was one of the first dogs I ever bred (I no longer use those bloodlines due to the eye issues in them) and my local vet diagnosed pretty much what your vet has done. Had I had access to a veterinary opthalmologist with a slit lamp and specific knowledge, things could have been done to prevent the blindness and make the dog a lot more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Suggestions for tear stains on a cocker?He's got tear staining on one eye, not much, but noticeable. Should I wipe his eye regularly with someone? Is there anything I could use to remove it? Anything that will stop it from reoccurring? An eyewash you buy from the chemist called Optrex. Soak a cotton ball in the Optrex and wipe his eyes - do both as both will benefit. It will wash out dust and grime and eventually the staining will go. When I find them I will post before and after photos of Tamar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Tamar when I took her out of Canterbury Pound - absolutely terrified poor baby: Tamar believing I have poisoned her breakfast - not a very good photo because of shade and sunlight, but not a stained hair to be seen: I also had two Maltese before Tamar with the same result for the male, with the little girl being left with a bit of staining, but she died at 3 and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Kitty, with all due respect to your vet, keep an eye on it and if the weeping doesn't stop, PLEASE see a canine eye specialst vet. It has been my experience over the years that many vets just don't have a clue when it comes to eyes. I had a dog permanently blinded by pigmentation growing over his eye as a result of an uninvestigated corneal ulceration that came from distichiasis that could have been treated. He was one of the first dogs I ever bred (I no longer use those bloodlines due to the eye issues in them) and my local vet diagnosed pretty much what your vet has done. Had I had access to a veterinary opthalmologist with a slit lamp and specific knowledge, things could have been done to prevent the blindness and make the dog a lot more comfortable. Thankz Ellz, it has cleared up mostly now, but will keep an eye on it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Suggestions for tear stains on a cocker?He's got tear staining on one eye, not much, but noticeable. Should I wipe his eye regularly with someone? Is there anything I could use to remove it? Anything that will stop it from reoccurring? Just got to ask if you had anyone in mind? :D I would follow Ellz advice and see an eye specialist instead of your ordinary vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Suggestions for tear stains on a cocker?He's got tear staining on one eye, not much, but noticeable. Should I wipe his eye regularly with someone? Is there anything I could use to remove it? Anything that will stop it from reoccurring? Just got to ask if you had anyone in mind? I would follow Ellz advice and see an eye specialist instead of your ordinary vet. I missed that......I just get so panicky when I see eyes discussed. One thing I have learned in my time with dogs and one thing I always try to impress upon other people is that you NEVER mess with eyes. Many things can be self-diagnosed and successfully treated, but where eyes are concerned, I'd rather over react than make a potential issue worse with inactivity and wrong treatment. Actually....I'm a bit like that with my skinkids too. Some body parts can be replaced, but you only get one set of eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke W Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) My vet is pretty good with eyes - she's worked with eye specialists before. Just got back. She did the staining - no scratches. Tear production is fine too. Tear ducts are clear and draining down his nose - left tear duct is a tiny bit slower than the right - but OK. No eyelashes on inside of eyelid. Left eye is more ectropion than right. More pronounced eyelid fold. Some minor inflammation of left eyelid causing it to roll in a bit. Plan: Course of antibiotics and cortisone cream and tablets to get the inflammation down. Revisit in 7 days to check. Revisit in 14 days. Once the inflammation is under control - off to the eye specialist to discuss corrective surgery on the eyelid (an eyelift). Can choose to have it done by the specialist or by my regular vet (who is very confident, but happy for me to have it done by the specialist if I'd prefer). She mentioned a name of the specialist but I've forgotten. No risk of corneal damage at the moment which was good news. Edited July 30, 2009 by Luke W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxyNHemi Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Good news that you found the answer to the problem I would get some Kojo in the mean time, and just be wiping the area to get it cleaned, and rid of the stains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 My vet is pretty good with eyes - she's worked with eye specialists before.Just got back. She did the staining - no scratches. Tear production is fine too. Tear ducts are clear and draining down his nose - left tear duct is a tiny bit slower than the right - but OK. No eyelashes on inside of eyelid. Left eye is more ectropion than right. More pronounced eyelid fold. Some minor inflammation of left eyelid causing it to roll in a bit. Plan: Course of antibiotics and cortisone cream and tablets to get the inflammation down. Revisit in 7 days to check. Revisit in 14 days. Once the inflammation is under control - off to the eye specialist to discuss corrective surgery on the eyelid (an eyelift). Can choose to have it done by the specialist or by my regular vet (who is very confident, but happy for me to have it done by the specialist if I'd prefer). She mentioned a name of the specialist but I've forgotten. No risk of corneal damage at the moment which was good news. Excellent news! And very glad that I wasn't over-reacting and costing you money unneccessarily too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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