Freshstart16 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Hi, I just wanted to say I am so sorry for you and your family loosing your dog and now for this to happen. Sending vibes out for your baby to eat something!! Go on mate you can do it!! Your mummy loves you so much, please eat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Please try and get some A/D. It is highly palatable and has lots of calories so it will keep him going for a while. Its very sloppy so you can syringe it in. Let me know if you want me to post you some with some nutrigel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Glad they have ruled out all physical causes, so now you can just concentrate on trying to get him to eat. I suggest you try Lyn at Alternative Therapies and see if she can help with his emotional recovery and to boost the appetite. I am also guessing that it isn't just grief. Sometimes an older dog will actually control what a younger dog eats so Bonnie may have been giving him permission to eat. Now she isn't there to tell him to eat, so he doesn't. If you want to try rabbit, Bush's Meats (I think or the one next to it) in Macarthur Square usually has them in the freezer. Can't say that I have seen them any more local than that recently but will keep an eye out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Omg, i am so sorry, poor boy Can you borrow a dog for a while? just throwing idea's around. Ive tried borrowing friends dogs for 5/6hrs but its had no effect on getting him to eat, prob because he wont eat whilst playing and when they leave, well, he just retreats back to his bed again. He has a FANTASTIC time though, just seeing him play instead of plodding about and sleeping 24/7, cant discribe how much it lightens up our whole household. We are going to have a talk tonight and see what we are going to do in regards to getting another dog. 100% I will syringe feed him if I need to but Indie was a rescue pup and had major fear issues when we got him at 5mths old. He's great with everything else now but he still wets himself in fear when you try to put a collar or lead on him. Having to hold his head to syringe feed him is going to cause him major stress and prob cause his collar/lead issues to worsen so Im desperate to ty getting him eating on his own. Breaking my heart knowing how shocked the vets were at his condition when there is nothing physically wrong with him. I know Sibes are ment to be stubborn at times but come on Indie boy! ps Juice~ Ive even put Bonnnie's Chillydog coat on Indie the past two nights because he has actually been getting cold. Indie says thankyou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Please try and get some A/D. It is highly palatable and has lots of calories so it will keep him going for a while. Its very sloppy so you can syringe it in. Let me know if you want me to post you some with some nutrigel. Sorry Kirty I havent looked through all the past posts. Where can I get A/D from? Im going back to the vet later on to pick up the nutrigel to try with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 A/D is a vet-only wet food. Your local vet should have it in stock. I use it on really weak kittens and it is honestly a life saver. You can't really use it long term because its very rich, but its great for getting them over the hump. If he is not drinking well, you can also mix in a bit of warm water and syringe it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Glad they have ruled out all physical causes, so now you can just concentrate on trying to get him to eat. I suggest you try Lyn at Alternative Therapies and see if she can help with his emotional recovery and to boost the appetite. I am also guessing that it isn't just grief. Sometimes an older dog will actually control what a younger dog eats so Bonnie may have been giving him permission to eat. Now she isn't there to tell him to eat, so he doesn't. If you want to try rabbit, Bush's Meats (I think or the one next to it) in Macarthur Square usually has them in the freezer. Can't say that I have seen them any more local than that recently but will keep an eye out. They were the same age but she was 100% the Boss around here. Do you think that it could have been that even when they were completly seperated (through a fence/or inside/outside) at mealtimes? Would that mean I would have to get an older dog to pull him into line or a young dog still be able to encourage him to eat? Ill deffinaltly get onto Lyn to see if she can help him. Just remembered my OH's Uncle likes rabbit for dinner....hr drive but Ill try steal some off of him (wont tell him its for the dog though, Id have no chance of getting any then). I vagually remember the butcher in cronulla having it but not sure if they still would, might send a friend to check for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) A/D is a vet-only wet food. Your local vet should have it in stock. I use it on really weak kittens and it is honestly a life saver. You can't really use it long term because its very rich, but its great for getting them over the hump. If he is not drinking well, you can also mix in a bit of warm water and syringe it in. Cool, cool, Ill ask for some when I get there. He just said to try everything possible but especially try and get high energy/protein foods into him. *Looks at the mince, bbq chicken, cubed lamb and bones still sitting untouched * Edited May 7, 2011 by julzjc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 If you can get some A/D into him, that should give him some energy and hopefully encourage him to eat more. Once he is tempted, you can mix the A/D with some mince, etc. Keeping everything crossed for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 ?eggs & bacon? slices of liver, seared? lamb brains? Toast & butter? kangaroo mince? Poor boy and poor you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 have you fed him with another (preferably gutsy dog/pup? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 ?eggs & bacon? slices of liver, seared? lamb brains? Toast & butter? kangaroo mince? Poor boy and poor you. With the exception of the lambs brains, Ive tried them all lass. Tried everything in the pantry and walking up and down Coles looking at things that might spike his appetite, all Im achieving is ALOT of wasted food and new wildlife visiting the garden . Ive tried to feed him when the other dogs are here but he just sniffs at it and walks off. They have all been either smaller dogs or puppies...and they have all eaten the food, plus his (tiny amounts). Tried putting him in "his place" up on the veranda at them in Bonnies place, tried hand feeding them both in sit position and tried just scattering the food around. Still not intrested he was so excited to have another dog around that he just didnt care less about the food. He must be hungry, he shadows me as soon as I start cooking but when I offer him something he just walks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Does he like other dogs? Can you "borrow" one for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Trying to think who I know that has a "guts"...Cant think of any that I would put him with, ie all under-socialised entire males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Shame you aren't closer or I'd lend you Champa. He taught my Pia to eat her dinner quicksmart! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Trying to think who I know that has a "guts"...Cant think of any that I would put him with, ie all under-socialised entire males. I know it's not what you want to be thinking about right now but I wonder if a new pup or a foster pup might help bring him round. No many dogs have a stronger pack instinct than Sibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Don't know if you have tried it, you probably have, but what if you sit on the floor eating something (sausage or something) and you take a bite of it then offer it to him to eat? I once had a terribly fussy dog but if she was offered something that she had seen us eating she would eat it no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Does he like other dogs? Can you "borrow" one for a while? Either loves or is indifferent to everydog, wether its huge/tiny/male/female/entire/friendly/aggressive. Chilled out boy although vet thought that was due to an underlying condition, not your normal 20mth old Sibe. Hes never been puppyish or Sibe-ish, even when he was just a pup. Ill talk to OH tonight and see about fostering for a week or two to see if theres any improvment in him, cant do any harm can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 The only concern I'd have with fostering is what if he starts to eat, then the foster goes, and he gets depressed all over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julzjc Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Don't know if you have tried it, you probably have, but what if you sit on the floor eating something (sausage or something) and you take a bite of it then offer it to him to eat? I once had a terribly fussy dog but if she was offered something that she had seen us eating she would eat it no problems. Tried it, thats how we were getting him to eat slices of ham. Wouldnt touch it if we didnt take a bite first but that trick has since worn off unfortunatly. Just dont get why he is so determined not to eat. You would think that since that trick was working that it would atleast keep working if nothing more, but nope. Its like "Oh, I see what your trying to do! Well Im not falling for it anymore." Ive tried gettin gthe kids to feed him peanut butter toast, any left overs but not even their attempts work. If you put food in front of him when hes lying down he will activly get up and move away from it, makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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