TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nala berry... and Gus having a snuggle.... and Nala just having a love for running water in general!! another awesome thing about APBT they are complete water babies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nala berry... and Gus having a snuggle.... and Nala just having a love for running water in general!! another awesome thing about APBT they are complete water babies!! She's beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nala berry... and Gus having a snuggle.... and Nala just having a love for running water in general!! another awesome thing about APBT they are complete water babies!! Besties with Gus? Sweet pics, she is beautiful, the one of her drinking is sweet also. I love the red nose :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greytmate Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. It just seems to have been done to death to me. We all know they have a fighting background.....care should be taken in encounters with ANY dog. It just always seems to get mentioned when it's to do with APBT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 They're not yet a breed are they- when will they become one, anyone know? If they became a breed, wouldn't their temperament become more predictable? I've always heard that they are big sooks ect ect- and then one day they just snap. I guess, I'm a little afraid- I would never own one with all the animals we have + our 3 kids. and yes...I know a couple of people who have/had them. Paranoid I know (media does not help!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 hahah :D One more and then ill stop bragging but Nala as a youngen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 hahah :D One more and then ill stop bragging but Nala as a youngen Freakin adorable!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 They're not yet a breed are they- when will they become one, anyone know? If they became a breed, wouldn't their temperament become more predictable? I've always heard that they are big sooks ect ect- and then one day they just snap. I guess, I'm a little afraid- I would never own one with all the animals we have + our 3 kids. and yes...I know a couple of people who have/had them. Paranoid I know (media does not help!). I cannot think of a better or safer breed with kids.. if its a good example of one. I frequently recommend SBTs for young families. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) They're not yet a breed are they- when will they become one, anyone know? If they became a breed, wouldn't their temperament become more predictable? I've always heard that they are big sooks ect ect- and then one day they just snap. I guess, I'm a little afraid- I would never own one with all the animals we have + our 3 kids. and yes...I know a couple of people who have/had them. Paranoid I know (media does not help!). I have no idea where the whole "one day they just snap" thing came about? I have owned the breed and so has my OH and both of them were total softies with other dogs and other animals. I have also worked in a pound with them and have not nioticed that they are more aggressive than any other breed in general. Just my experience. ETA: Yes they are fantastic with kids also. Edited February 14, 2012 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nala berry... and Gus having a snuggle.... and Nala just having a love for running water in general!! another awesome thing about APBT they are complete water babies!! Besties with Gus? Sweet pics, she is beautiful, the one of her drinking is sweet also. I love the red nose :) ooowww yea hahah, His like the annoying brother she never had and she is such a great influence, the way she has taught him to approch other dogs absolute bliss, he is so so careful especially with the older ones... a little story... Nalah is actually the OH dog and we live together now... when I first met Nala getting a toy off her was a real mission... she loves her toys and is quite protective of them...when we brought Gus home she was cautious as to what this little excited thing was bouncing around her so we watched very carefully.... she then disappeared for a few seconds only to return with her favourite toy, she lay on the bed and offered her tug toy to him... it was so beautiful and OH and I were soooo amazed that she was wanting to share a toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. Then you can make the valid points in the new thread that TW has felt the need to make :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. Then you can make the valid points in the new thread that TW has felt the need to make :) Charming. God forbid we actually acknowledge that no breed is perfect. Unless of course, its yours eh? Far better to keep it all sunshine and lollipops than talk about breed characteristics, both postive and negative. I see little point in promoting purebred dogs unless a realistic and accurate picture is painted of breeds. Some of the points I've made in the other thread might help folk avoid making a poor choice or stop them wondering why a breeder knocked them back for a pup. But then, that would just be 'politics' now wouldn't it. ;) Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. Then you can make the valid points in the new thread that TW has felt the need to make :) Charming. God forbid we actually acknowledge that no breed is perfect. Unless of course, its yours eh? I see little point in promoting purebred dogs unless a realistic and accurate picture is painted of breeds. Some of the points I've made in the other thread might help folk avoid making a poor choice or stop them wondering why a breeder knocked them back for a pup. But then, that would just be 'politics' now wouldn't it. ;) I will be the first to admit the GSD is not perfect :D But it was your tone of continually making a point of stating everything that was wrong with the APBT in this thread when all we wanted was a positive thread for a change. Most ppl here know every warning that comes with the APBT and thats why a nice thread about them was made for a change. God forbid there should be one here for ppl to enjoy as a one off and not just in the sub forums. I hope knowledgeable ppl with other breeds will contribute to your other thread. Edited February 14, 2012 by german_shep_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I will be the first to admit the GSD is not perfect :D But it was your tone of continually making a point of stating everything that was wrong with the APBT in this thread when all we wanted was a positive thread for a change. Most ppl here know every warning that comes with the APBT and thats why a nice thread about them was made for a change. God forbid there should be one here for ppl to enjoy as a one off and not just in the sub forums.I hope knowledgeable ppl win other breeds will contribute to your other thread. Then you must have missed this: I cannot think of a better or safer breed with kids.. if its a good example of one. Yep, that's a lot wrong with a dog. I'll give credit where credit is due. A breed bred to be able to be handled by people when highly aroused and to be able to withstand considerable pain is going to to be a good choice for families where kids can tend to roughhouse a dog.. and they do make great pets for folk for whom the dog park isn't a 'must do' with their dogs. Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I will be the first to admit the GSD is not perfect :D But it was your tone of continually making a point of stating everything that was wrong with the APBT in this thread when all we wanted was a positive thread for a change. Most ppl here know every warning that comes with the APBT and thats why a nice thread about them was made for a change. God forbid there should be one here for ppl to enjoy as a one off and not just in the sub forums.I hope knowledgeable ppl win other breeds will contribute to your other thread. Then you must have missed this: I cannot think of a better or safer breed with kids.. if its a good example of one. Yep, that's a lot wrong with a dog. I'll give credit where credit is due. A breed bred to be able to be handled by people when highly aroused and to be able to withstand considerable pain is going to to be a good choice for families where kids can tend to roughhouse a dog.. and they do make great pets for folk for whom the dog park isn't a 'must do' with their dogs. fair enough. I still don't think pointing out the aggressive tendancies constantly was necessary is all, its done to death in the media and owners get sick of hearing it. I hope you get a good response to the new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. Then you can make the valid points in the new thread that TW has felt the need to make :) Charming. God forbid we actually acknowledge that no breed is perfect. Unless of course, its yours eh? Far better to keep it all sunshine and lollipops than talk about breed characteristics, both postive and negative. I see little point in promoting purebred dogs unless a realistic and accurate picture is painted of breeds. Some of the points I've made in the other thread might help folk avoid making a poor choice or stop them wondering why a breeder knocked them back for a pup. But then, that would just be 'politics' now wouldn't it. ;) Sorry to be a real ball breaker but outlining the breeds unidealistic characteristics that can be present it not what the thread is about. Also stop generalising, there are quite a few greys that can and do live with cats and small fury animals... just like some APBT are excellent with families children and other dogs. Edited February 14, 2012 by GussysMum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think BADRAP's page on dog tolerance in the APBT is great: http://www.badrap.org/node/97 Yes they were bred for fighting in the past. But there are plenty of labs that can't retrieve, and plenty of pits who don't start fights. I think BADRAP have got it right when they state that most Pits fall in the 'dog tolerant' or 'dog selective' categories. Dogs that actively start fights and dogs that love every single dog they meet are less common, but both still exist in numbers of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) fair enough. I still don't think pointing out the aggressive tendancies constantly was necessary is all, its done to death in the media and owners get sick of hearing it. I hope you get a good response to the new thread. No, its NOT done to death in the media. The breed is consistently painted as a threat to people. If well socialised (as many of the dogs that featureiin the stories are not) and well bred, then its in all likelihood to be the breed I'd be least likely to cross the street to avoid, if I didnt' have dogs with me. Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I am sick of arguing with you and we are obv missing each others argument. I for one would love to get this particular discussion back on track. I hope you get sensible responses in your other post. Onya Gussy's mum Edited February 14, 2012 by german_shep_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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