A-B-C Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think BADRAP's page on dog tolerance in the APBT is great: http://www.badrap.org/node/97 Yes they were bred for fighting in the past. But there are plenty of labs that can't retrieve, and plenty of pits who don't start fights. I think BADRAP have got it right when they state that most Pits fall in the 'dog tolerant' or 'dog selective' categories. Dogs that actively start fights and dogs that love every single dog they meet are less common, but both still exist in numbers of course. I LOVE Badrap!!! they freaking rock!! What I would do to be able to go over and spend some time with them in their program!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Sorry to be a real ball breaker but outlining the breeds unidealistic characteristics that can be present it not what the thread is about.Also stop generalising, there are quite a few greys that can and do live with cats and small fury animals... just like some APBT are excellent with families children and other dogs. I think you mean "not what some of us would like the thread to be about". However, I'll opt out and return you to the sunshine and lollipops. Seriously, you've got a breed thread if that's what you want. Who'd have thought that in General, there'd be a group insisting on censorship. A less robust poster might think they were being bullied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think BADRAP's page on dog tolerance in the APBT is great: http://www.badrap.org/node/97 Yes they were bred for fighting in the past. But there are plenty of labs that can't retrieve, and plenty of pits who don't start fights. I think BADRAP have got it right when they state that most Pits fall in the 'dog tolerant' or 'dog selective' categories. Dogs that actively start fights and dogs that love every single dog they meet are less common, but both still exist in numbers of course. I LOVE Badrap!!! they freaking rock!! What I would do to be able to go over and spend some time with them in their program!!! Me too :D That's one of my life goals - to go over there and work with them for an extended period of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-B-C Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think BADRAP's page on dog tolerance in the APBT is great: http://www.badrap.org/node/97 Yes they were bred for fighting in the past. But there are plenty of labs that can't retrieve, and plenty of pits who don't start fights. I think BADRAP have got it right when they state that most Pits fall in the 'dog tolerant' or 'dog selective' categories. Dogs that actively start fights and dogs that love every single dog they meet are less common, but both still exist in numbers of course. I LOVE Badrap!!! they freaking rock!! What I would do to be able to go over and spend some time with them in their program!!! Me too :D That's one of my life goals - to go over there and work with them for an extended period of time! Ohhhh yeahhhhhhhh baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Sorry to be a real ball breaker but outlining the breeds unidealistic characteristics that can be present it not what the thread is about.Also stop generalising, there are quite a few greys that can and do live with cats and small fury animals... just like some APBT are excellent with families children and other dogs. I think you mean "not what some of us would like the thread to be about". However, I'll opt out and return you to the sunshine and lollipops. Seriously, you've got a breed thread if that's what you want. Who'd have thought that in General, there'd be a group insisting on censorship. A less robust poster might think they were being bullied. im tempted to sound troll alert Edited February 14, 2012 by GussysMum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Sorry to be a real ball breaker but outlining the breeds unidealistic characteristics that can be present it not what the thread is about.Also stop generalising, there are quite a few greys that can and do live with cats and small fury animals... just like some APBT are excellent with families children and other dogs. I think you mean "not what some of us would like the thread to be about". However, I'll opt out and return you to the sunshine and lollipops. Seriously, you've got a breed thread if that's what you want. Who'd have thought that in General, there'd be a group insisting on censorship. A less robust poster might think they were being bullied. im tempted to sound troll alert Be sure to report your very clear breach of forum rules while you're at it. :) I'm happy to opt out of here if you stop insulting me. I haven't reported you but it would be nice if you stopped calling me names. ETA: Looks like someone did - that post is gone. But I have to say I'm gobsmacked that you set yourself up as the arbiter of what can and can't be said in a thread started by another person, in General. Leave me alone and I'll return the courtesy eh? Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'm just throwing it out there but do we actually know for a 'fact' that the dogs encountered were APBT? Most people would not know one if it came up and bit them on the bum. A lack of true identification is one of the reasons this breed cop such bad press..."Oh the dog that attacked my little fluffy was a Pitbull Terrier!!" Just listen to the Media reports of dog attacks as an example. On further investigation it rarely is. I'm sure many of the so called ABPT out there from unregistered sources are in fact simply bull terrier crosses. The buyers of these cross breeds think they have bought what the breeder tells them they have bought. It's always lovely to hear of dogs of any breed getting along at a Dog Park but personally I believe all strange dogs owners should approach any dog encounter with forethought and great care. A CKCS is inclined to be friendly and submissive to any breed, sometimes to it's detriment. So I'm happy to hear of people at dog parks with friendly dogs in any thread. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 But I have to say I'm gobsmacked that you set yourself up as the arbiter of what can and can't be said in a thread started by another person, in General. If someone starts a thread with the intention of being "yay!" about something, it's rude to come and rain on their parade just because you feel like it, regardless of what subforum it is in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 so is it a breed or a type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) so is it a breed or a type? Technically, a type, as they are not recognised by the ANKC, but they have been around for a long time. Edited February 14, 2012 by Aussie3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 ah, okay. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) But I have to say I'm gobsmacked that you set yourself up as the arbiter of what can and can't be said in a thread started by another person, in General. If someone starts a thread with the intention of being "yay!" about something, it's rude to come and rain on their parade just because you feel like it, regardless of what subforum it is in! I didn't rain on the OP's parade. She owns an 18 week old CKCS she's taking to the dog park. Some APBT fanciers took offence when I suggested that it might not be wise to assume that all APBTs would be so gentle with her pup. Was that so dreadful? Seriously, I had no idea it was not permitted to post any opinion you held on a discussion forum provided that you did so within forum rules. I must remember in future to only say positive and supportive things, even if I think what a person is doing is potentially going to see their dog in danger. My bad. Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimax Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Seriously, I had no idea it was not permitted to post any opinion you held on a discussion forum provided that you did so within forum rules. S'ok, now you do :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 But I have to say I'm gobsmacked that you set yourself up as the arbiter of what can and can't be said in a thread started by another person, in General. If someone starts a thread with the intention of being "yay!" about something, it's rude to come and rain on their parade just because you feel like it, regardless of what subforum it is in! I didn't rain on the OP's parade. She owns an 18 week old CKCS she's taking to the dog park. Some APBT fanciers took offence when I suggested that it might not be wise to assume that all APBTs would be so gentle with her pup. Was that so dreadful? Seriously, I had no idea it was not permitted to post any opinion you held on a discussion forum provided that you did so within forum rules. I must remember in future to only say positive and supportive things, even if I think what a person is doing is potentially going to see their dog in danger. My bad. Telida, I don't think anyone is upset about you warning people to be careful with their puppies around strange dogs. The Pit Bull has been totally screwed over and I'm sure you can understand how it's fanciers are upset by that. All we hear about is how evil they are, how one day they just snap and eat your whole family, they're all dog aggressive etc etc etc. It was just nice to have someone saying that their experience with the breed was all good. Simple as that. We all know what you have been saying and I guess most people are sick of hearing it. I hope you don't take offence, and of course you are entitled to your own opinion, it just gets frustrating when every thread about this breed goes that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 ANYWHOOOO back to how absolutly awesome and soft and loving APBT are ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 But I have to say I'm gobsmacked that you set yourself up as the arbiter of what can and can't be said in a thread started by another person, in General. If someone starts a thread with the intention of being "yay!" about something, it's rude to come and rain on their parade just because you feel like it, regardless of what subforum it is in! I didn't rain on the OP's parade. She owns an 18 week old CKCS she's taking to the dog park. Some APBT fanciers took offence when I suggested that it might not be wise to assume that all APBTs would be so gentle with her pup. Was that so dreadful? Seriously, I had no idea it was not permitted to post any opinion you held on a discussion forum provided that you did so within forum rules. I must remember in future to only say positive and supportive things, even if I think what a person is doing is potentially going to see their dog in danger. My bad. Telida, I don't think anyone is upset about you warning people to be careful with their puppies around strange dogs. The Pit Bull has been totally screwed over and I'm sure you can understand how it's fanciers are upset by that. All we hear about is how evil they are, how one day they just snap and eat your whole family, they're all dog aggressive etc etc etc. It was just nice to have someone saying that their experience with the breed was all good. Simple as that. We all know what you have been saying and I guess most people are sick of hearing it. I hope you don't take offence, and of course you are entitled to your own opinion, it just gets frustrating when every thread about this breed goes that way. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Telida, I don't think anyone is upset about you warning people to be careful with their puppies around strange dogs. The Pit Bull has been totally screwed over and I'm sure you can understand how it's fanciers are upset by that. All we hear about is how evil they are, how one day they just snap and eat your whole family, they're all dog aggressive etc etc etc. It was just nice to have someone saying that their experience with the breed was all good. Simple as that. We all know what you have been saying and I guess most people are sick of hearing it. I hope you don't take offence, and of course you are entitled to your own opinion, it just gets frustrating when every thread about this breed goes that way. Why thank you Aussie 3. I was only offended by being called 'dense' and a troll. I expect to be disagreed with.. we all have opinions and many times they differ. Again Stop calling me names and you may rest assured I won't be posting anything about APBTs ever again. Including their GOOD points. This experience has been educative to say the least. Edited February 14, 2012 by Telida Whippets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoStoNmAdNeSs Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think Telida has a valid point and worth bringing up here. Bellacks has described the encounters in very anthropomorphic terms, and I still don't know what she means by 'protective'. It is quite a risk to allow a small 4 month old pup to play with three strange large dogs in a dog park, whatever the breed. I find it a little scary. But the encounter at the vets sounds delightful. I agree with you too. Why the heck are people having a go at Telida for having an opinion on a public forum? Just because the topic is about one thing, it doesn't mean that it can't digress a touch. It didnt go off topic...the topic just evolved. I thought the post by Telida was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavamum Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 In what way were the pitbulls protective of your puppy? She was playing and was bolled over and the Pit Bull went over to make sure she was okay, another dog was growling at her and another pit bull stepped in front of Bella... those kind of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavamum Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) She shouldn't let it rush up to ANY unknown dog. But I don't see why she should keep it away either, didn;t hear you warning her to keep it away from a Whippet..... OP hadn't concluded that all Whippets were sweet and gentle.. as they should be, with PEOPLE, not prey animals. Should a strange offlead Whippet be treated with caution around such a small pup. You betcha, especially if it's inclined to scream or run. NO responsible sighthound owner would counsel otherwise. My dogs have been extensively socialied with toy breeds. Not all dogs have and I suggest its best to assume not. Never heard of a Whippet killing a puppy, but cats, guinea pigs etc.. yep. But DO dogs kill puppies. All the time sadly. Aussie3: She shouldn't let it rush up to ANY unknown dog. But I don't see why she should keep it away either?? It's called socialisation. Without the consent of the other dog's owner and with the other dog under control, not in my book it ain't. It's called an accident waiting to happen. First of all.....I said "All of the Pit Bulls I have met" not ALL PIT BULLS...I do not let my dog rush up to any dog thank you very much, I always talk to an owner first and ask if their dog is friendly with other dogs and I always use caution and stay right by her side! The truth is, I had never met a pit bull before. I had only heard stories about how aggressive they are etc and I was pleasantly surprised that all of the ones that Bella and myself have met have been so good with her! I just wanted to say something nice. Edited February 14, 2012 by Bellackcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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