Erny Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 My reasoning for thinking its not so much a food allergy, but that the dog may not be getting adequate nutrition needed from the dry food alone. So the research showing that inadequate nutrition can cause the immune system to over react etc, sounds plausible and an avenue I would certainly persue if it were my dog. Agree with the above. Or it could be that the dry food needs to be removed from the diet altogether. If the dog's system struggles to properly digest, this in turn goes towards causing other problems which by end result can be a build up of toxins which the liver and/or kidney are unable to deal with as they normally would. Just because it's not a food allergy does not mean the issue is not diet related. And with this ^^. Diet goes to the support of the whole body and every little bit within it. Everything is intrinsically co-dependant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 My reasoning for thinking its not so much a food allergy, but that the dog may not be getting adequate nutrition needed from the dry food alone. So the research showing that inadequate nutrition can cause the immune system to over react etc, sounds plausible and an avenue I would certainly persue if it were my dog. Agree with the above. Or it could be that the dry food needs to be removed from the diet altogether. If the dog's system struggles to properly digest, this in turn goes towards causing other problems which by end result can be a build up of toxins which the liver and/or kidney are unable to deal with as they normally would. Just because it's not a food allergy does not mean the issue is not diet related. And with this ^^. Diet goes to the support of the whole body and every little bit within it. Everything is intrinsically co-dependant. Just wish I could get some advice from people who have perhaps tried the Skin allergy 6-8 week diet ..... Everything sounds good in writing when your hoping you have found the answer .... It's also a matter of convincing my brother, I understand You go by what your vet tells you, but their are so many options out there and as far as I can see nothing has helped so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Just wish I could get some advice from people who have perhaps tried the Skin allergy 6-8 week diet ..... Everything sounds good in writing when your hoping you have found the answer .... Is this the Allerblend food? No offence to Dr Bruce, as I have had great success with VAN products with my past and other dogs, but I did trial the Allerblend and stuck to it exclusively (along with the Omega Blend Oil and the VAN supplement powder recommended). It did improve my dog's issues to a degree in the early months - not 100% but at least not as devastating as he had been beforehand (which is when we were on top-shelf dry food/s). After about 7 months, my dog's system blew a gasket again however and so for us it was back to the drawing board. I've had my dog on Augustine's Approved recommended diet for the past 2 years and so far this, coupled with the supplements I get based on hair-DNA analysis, has served my boy very well. My dog's not 100% perfect and I still suspect there's something else I haven't yet put my finger on completely that persists as an underlying problem, but he's the best he's been for the longest duration. You go by what your vet tells you, but their are so many options out there and as far as I can see nothing has helped so far Yes - I ran the gauntlet as well and spent a LOT of money in the process. Don't mind that so much IF the results are positive, but it is frustratingly despairing when it doesn't achieve improvement. Every dog is different and what may work for one may not for another and it is therefore a matter of trialling. But in this, I wish I had done the hair-DNA analysis earlier as it may have circumvented quite a lot of trialling and money-spending before coming up with something close to making a really big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pockets Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Think my brother is sick of hearing me talk about other options and what tests the vet has done! Lol......at the end of the day not my dog I guess .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 One thing that amazes me with specialist treated dogs is the expense owners go to yet they never suggest a diet plan to suit or help & yes i now diet is individual & finding the right one is like winning the lotto. We board alot of dogs whose owners are spending a fortune on allergy testing yet they feed the crappiest food out & treats to match or they just promote what the clinic sells . One dog we board has been on meds for so long it has now caused kidney issues ,the owners are people with lots of money so no expense is spared but they don't ask questions nor question the clinic on why so long & now this health issue is here what to do. He doesn't have false turf ?? Does the dog have bad ears ?? Does he flea treat?? Did he have issues as a pup or it started later in life?? Feet wise you can wash in neat white vinegar,use tinea cream . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 How about just trying a balanced raw diet?- plenty of resources available these days to help formulate an apprpropriate diet. I don't know much about VAN but surely anything packaged will have some degree of preservative/ alteration. At least with a home prepared raw diet you can guarantee fresh produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 My Brother has a LSC GSD who has suffered from skin allergies for many years, constant red itchy belly, red itchy paws....everything has been tried, antibiotics, topical treatments, cortison etc and nothing has so far worked. I have been looking up alternatives and saw the "Vets All Natural 6-8 week skin allergy program, has anyone had success with this? To me it seems quite simple and valid points that I agree with, too much processed foods etc Any advice would be great :) A Dermatologist for testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 My BT is on VANS and roo, its really easy to feed . She came to me as a mature kennel dog used to breed from ,and her skin was fine ( although she had dry eye), but after a while with me living in the real world and not a kennel, she started to get sores and itchy feet ,red, hair loss etc. After being on VANs it all cleared up, even the bouts of Pancreatis. However I would be interested in the DNA hair test,is it on their website? She now gets bumps around her eyes and on top of her head, I have removed everything in the garden and she is on Cephalexin, if I stop within 24 hours they come up again. I have tried antihistamines and alone they have no effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) However I would be interested in the DNA hair test,is it on their website? Don't know if it is on their website, Juice. I know Dr Bruce is looking into it and has expressed interest in including it as a part of his Vet practice. A big part of what I love about Dr Bruce is that his mind is always open and searching for natural based remedies and treatments and for non-invasive investigative methods, and is one of the few Vets around who don't merely jump to the drugs cabinet for every little symptom if it can be avoided. He looks at the well-being and welfare of the animal in a holistic fashion. The person I use for hair-dna testing is Ross Wilson of Coburg Health and Nutrition (Coburg, Victoria). 03 9354 8007. It can be done by post - no need to take your dog in. Probably the biggest down-fall of distance is the postage charge on top of the cost of the supplements. They don't always run out all at once and so you have to think ahead when ordering to save postal fees. Their normal practice is that people visit for follow-ups every 3 to 6 weeks, but I think they're getting used to me (and other of my friends who also have followed this practice) who are all too far away and too time poor for any regular visits. Edited April 12, 2014 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tara8430 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Contact contact Lyndall at http://caninevitality.com.au/ she fixed my itchy dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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