Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hello I have never used a Halti Collar before and I was wondering if anyone could tell me if it might work with my dogs. I have a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and another mixed breed (who also has a head like a Staffy). They are both very strong dogs and pull quite alot when I walk them. I walk both of them at the same time so I would like to reduce this as much as possible! I have tried harnesses but their chests are even stronger than their necks and I have even less control. I am trying hard to teach them not to pull (and have just read a couple of suggestions in another post which I will try out! ) but I feel as though I lack control with the flat collars, especially when I am trying to teach both at once! Any help would be appreciated! Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Jen, I haven't tried a Halti, but I do use a Sporn halter with my staffy cross, and it is great. You are right about the harnesses, they go across the chest and just give the dogs something to pull against. The Sporn halter was recommended to me by ARF, and a lot of the ARF foster carers use them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Angel Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hmmm.... would that "other post" be mine??? LOL I use a halti on Jasmine because she's too strong for a flat collar and a harness would matt her fur (as well as giving her something pull against). I've never heard of a Sporn harness. Personally, I think that a halti is worth a try. You gotta pick the method that works for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenOwner Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hi i use a halti for my golden retriever Einstein he has got a habbit of pulling towards little kids and little puppies.I find it works great you just give one little tug and it stops him.What the halti does is pull the head around a bit and i find dogs do not like that i know my Einstein doesn't.Ever since i've used it he has been great.Matter a fact i still use it but just got to warn you people may think its a muzzel.I have had quite a fe people come up to me and ask why do you have a muzzel on him i have to explain to them.I say its not a muzzel as he can still open his mouth it is used to stop them from pulling.Then they ask if they can pat him which i allow them too.If little kids come up to pat him i make sure his head is near me at all times to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 Thanks guys With the halti, can the dog still pant properly? (I dont know much about them if you cant tell ) Thanks Daisy2002, I will look up some info about the Sporn harness as well! Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hmmm.... would that "other post" be mine??? LOL Yep, it sure was! Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springergirl Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Hi Jen Yep they can do everything as per normal. Drink, eat, chew, bark it doesnt hinder them in any way. We have a Springer Spaniel and I tell ya he can pull harder than bigger dogs I have walked before. We have had our halti for 3 or 4 weeks now and it has made a huge difference. I recommend it Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 Thanks Trace! Does anyone have a "Gentle Leader" - is this the same thing as a Halti?? Thanks again - sorry to be a pain Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Just make sure the halti is fitted properly I don't use one but the only problem i see is perhaps the training issue with them...most dogs i know that are trained with them work perfectly while they are on (except for the occasional nose rub to get it off) but once the halti is off the dog is back their their old tricks/behavoiur. But i think it's up to yourself as to what works for you and your dog/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) . Edited February 27, 2008 by Pandii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) Hi Jen, I also have a Staffy, but I won't use a halti on him. Here's the three reasons why not... 1. When I tried one on him, he absolutely hated it. He cried and pawed his face to get it off. I've since found out that many dogs don't enjoy wearing their halti. It is possible to train a dog to accept a halti, but to be honest I didn't have the heart to do that to my dog. I want walks to be fun! 2. A halti doesn't actually teach your dog not to pull - it will stop him pulling while the halti is on, but if you take the halti off, the dog still pulls. Since I would like to eventually do obedience with my dog, I chose to teach loose lead walking with clicker training coupled with a prong collar instead. This is working really well for us. 3. My Staffie is a lunger, not a steady puller. I've heard horror stories about dogs injuring their spines by suddenly lunging and getting their neck jerked round by the levering action of the halti. I don't know if these are true or just rumours, but I didn't want to risk it for Monsta. Like everyone's said, you should use what works for you and your dog. By all means try a halti on your dog and see if it's right for you. I just posted because I thougt you might like to hear the "other side of the story" before you ran out and bought one! Edited June 10, 2005 by Amhailte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 Thanks everyone - you guys are great! I went and had a look at the sporn halters on the website and they look good, the only problem I might have is that my Staffy has a bad skin condition and can scratch huge sores into her armpits, so it might be too uncomfortable for her. Wow, this is really hard!!! I do want to try and train my dogs not to pull at all - it's just so difficult when I am walking both of them myself. In all honesty I walk them much less than I should because I am a little afraid that I dont have control and that if they want to (and they have wanted to in the past ) they can take off, dragging me behind them like a water skier!! As Bomber can be a bit funny with other dogs and tries to "protect" me and Kirra at every opportunity, I really do need to get some control. I also find that me not having control limits the amount of places I can take them - and so limits their fun in the long run! Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatibruce Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Just make sure the halti is fitted properly I don't use one but the only problem i see is perhaps the training issue with them...most dogs i know that are trained with them work perfectly while they are on (except for the occasional nose rub to get it off) but once the halti is off the dog is back their their old tricks/behavoiur. But i think it's up to yourself as to what works for you and your dog/s We had one for a staffy cross - we got it from our obedience club - they stressed the need to use it to correct rather than prevent the problem - it did work for us even when it was off after the training. The advice we got was to use like a trad. choke collar but gently. As the regular walker of 2X25kg+ staffy crosses I appreciate the problem. ;^)# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springergirl Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Gentle Leader I assume is the same....actually mine is a gentle leader. Opppppsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) . Edited February 27, 2008 by Pandii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Yup, gentle leader, halti, snoot loop - they're all the same thing, just marketed under different names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirra_Bomber_Zeus Posted June 10, 2005 Author Share Posted June 10, 2005 The spron collars are padded with lambs wool under the arms if that helps anyThey are very soft oohhh that may be ok then. I can see that I am going to try everything here! (lucky hubby does not read this forum Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springergirl Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 I can see that I am going to try everything here! (lucky hubby does not read this forum Jen Hey Jen I agree 110% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 If you want to try one just make sure you find a trainer that has fitted alot of them. The dog will hate it at first due to loosing control of being able to pull etc. and you need to be able to fit it slowly using lots of food rewards, encouraging the dog to turn their head to stop the 'correction'. The halter looks like it would give a subtle correction, but it is actually quite powerful. I have fitted many many halters, and suggest the first week putting it on for meal times only then taking it off, and don't attach a lead to it in the beginning. You need to be able to turn the dogs focus from wanting to pull it off or having a panic attack with it....which often happens. The other thing is that you can get into a fight-fight situation where you tighten the lead-it corrects under the mouth-dog pulls in the opposite direction and you get a stand off happening. So you need to find someone who is competent in fitting them. My suggestion would be to find a dog trainer in your area using the Delta website Also we have brought a few of these into the county from the US, and have found them to work quite well Easy-walk harness Not sure about the armpits though- these fit quite close to the underarms. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 this has all yoru answers http://www.k9force.net/halter.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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