[Malti]

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

[The Bears]

Malti, on 09 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

So it all becomes clearer now. Pathetic.

[S09]

It's all so simple... if there's an anomaly, check it against HP's own website. That's what I do.

[tdierikx]

The one time I went to pick up a dog for someone else, I knew well beforehand what that particular dog looked like, his age, etc... then checked and double checked with the very helpful HP staff member that he was indeed the correct dog for me to take...

I agree with those who said that the person picking up the dog should have known what they were there to collect... and when the wrong dog was brought out, they should have asked questions.

It's no excuse to blame the hard working volunteers that contribute to the urgent list pound pages here on DOL. The mistake was ultimately made by the person YOU sent to pick up the dog... or YOU for not letting them know EXACTLY what they were supposed to be picking up. If you just gave them an impound number based on what was posted here, then YOU ultimately can carry the "blame" for all the expense and heartache you've had in this case.

T.

[garnali]

Thought I'd just check the urgents again..

Can we clarify why 2 people have urgent Hawkesbury Lists.. One is very detailed with lots of updates .. The other has less info..

Getting confused between the two as both have comments from DOL'ers And yet infomation about saves is different..

SORRY have to ask.. Which one is correct and could we perhaps combine forces rather than running two lists ??

[schnauzer]

At the end of the day, the Rescue takes responsibility for the dogs it puts its name on. A well meaning volunteer cannot be expected to take flack from a rescue for collecting the wrong dog. It is up to the Rescue to do their due diligence.

Pound List does a great and often thankless job - volunteers spend so many hours assessing and photographing dogs, and it is much appreciated by rescuers.

[greytpets]

dogmad, on 09 March 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Sometimes I dream of getting a nice life with holidays, clothes, furniture etc. like other people and not being dragged down by the depression of beating my head against a brick wall, swimming against the ever growing tide of unwanted animals. But then I rescue another dog instead of giving it all away.

This is so my life! Dogmad you are not alone, we may be few but we are out here.

[kelscats]

garnali, on 10 March 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Thought I'd just check the urgents again..

Can we clarify why 2 people have urgent Hawkesbury Lists.. One is very detailed with lots of updates .. The other has less info..

Getting confused between the two as both have comments from DOL'ers And yet infomation about saves is different..

SORRY have to ask.. Which one is correct and could we perhaps combine forces rather than running two lists ??

There will be only one thread from now on im not doing any notes or pics anymore.

[AWDRI]

The Bears, on 09 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

Bottom line this is a voluntary resource which does not negate some type of effort by any rescue group. Perhaps AWDRI should relook at their own internal processes first before casting any biased stones. Glass houses must be so hard to keep clean.

Every one of us is a volunteer and as such processes are always open to scrutiny and review. This particular instance was caused by a volunteer being given only the impound number of the dog she was collecting and the breed mix which was kelpie x. Both dogs listed as PCC216 had this impound number and breed mix so there was no reason for her to suspect she was given the wrong dog.

Malti, on 09 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

You are incorrect. PCC197 was a red/chocolate BC x Kelpie and in no way resembled either of these dogs. PCC197 was collected by AWDRI and is safe with our organisation.
The dog shown in the photos attached and listed as PCC216 is not recognised by pound staff at all.

The Bears, on 09 March 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

Malti, on 09 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

So it all becomes clearer now. Pathetic.

And from what pedestal do you stand and call us pathetic? Get your facts right before you start throwing stones.

DOL from a rescue perspective is obsolete and despite the hours of manpower put in by the volunteers who update the threads here (and we do recognise and acknowledge that fact) it is being replaced by social networking and hence for whatever reason is no longer a reliable source. Rescue is filled with enough infighting and bitching and backstabbing without it being done on yet another forum so AWDRI is out of here.

[Plan B]

So you're basically just here to berate volunteers, blame others for your own mistake, declare rescue on DOL obsolete, and call everyone a backstabbing bitch.

You must be a riot at social gatherings.

[dogmad]

The day that my rescue is only organised and run via social media - SHOULD THAT DAY EVER COME - is the day I will be out of rescue altogether.

[Powerlegs]

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The dog shown in the photos attached and listed as PCC216 is not recognised by pound staff at all.

Really? The staff are blind now too?

PCC 197 BORDER COLLIE MALE 2YRS



and "kenny" aka mislableled dog in question

[Blacktown List]

garnali, on 10 March 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Can we clarify why 2 people have urgent Hawkesbury Lists.. One is very detailed with lots of updates .. The other has less info..

Since late last year the traditional Hawkesbury thread has been published some weeks and not in others.

To fill the gap I post a thread each week setting out the impound numbers, basic details and one photo of all the candidates for the coming week's kill list. If the finalised kill list ends up in my inbox I trim the entries accordingly. Sometimes I have access to more photos of the dogs and temp notes, and I add them to the thread. But at the moment I have no source for such extras.

The primary aim is to make the dogs visible to busy rescuers who just want to scan a list for their preferred dog types.

[Malti]

AWDRI, on 10 March 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

The Bears, on 09 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

Bottom line this is a voluntary resource which does not negate some type of effort by any rescue group. Perhaps AWDRI should relook at their own internal processes first before casting any biased stones. Glass houses must be so hard to keep clean.

Every one of us is a volunteer and as such processes are always open to scrutiny and review. This particular instance was caused by a volunteer being given only the impound number of the dog she was collecting and the breed mix which was kelpie x. Both dogs listed as PCC216 had this impound number and breed mix so there was no reason for her to suspect she was given the wrong dog.

Malti, on 09 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

You are incorrect. PCC197 was a red/chocolate BC x Kelpie and in no way resembled either of these dogs. PCC197 was collected by AWDRI and is safe with our organisation.
The dog shown in the photos attached and listed as PCC216 is not recognised by pound staff at all.

The Bears, on 09 March 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

Malti, on 09 March 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

AWDRI, on 09 March 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Upon following up with the pound it appears that the dog we thought we were getting wasn't even on any urgent list and certainly didn't have the impound number of PCC216 so we still don't know who that dog is or whether he needs our help.

From looking at the DOL pictures and the HP website, my guess would be the dog was actually PCC197 and according to pound rounds social networking site he is safe with AWDRI

So it all becomes clearer now. Pathetic.

And from what pedestal do you stand and call us pathetic? Get your facts right before you start throwing stones.

DOL from a rescue perspective is obsolete and despite the hours of manpower put in by the volunteers who update the threads here (and we do recognise and acknowledge that fact) it is being replaced by social networking and hence for whatever reason is no longer a reliable source. Rescue is filled with enough infighting and bitching and backstabbing without it being done on yet another forum so AWDRI is out of here.

AWDRI you have been using many different internet sources to get your dogs from, 'only using DOL' and now never again, what a load of rubbish.
Pity an apology about the mix up is not what you were after as that was given long ago in this thread. You are trying to make a point I am guessing but who knows what that point is, except you are accusing others of the exact thing you are being, dramatic and bitchy.
If you find social networking site more accurate go right ahead, I hope pound rounds give you the money they were collecting on the dog you took.
Maybe look into your internal workings and think giving a breed cross to someone who is picking a dog up for you as inadequate and maybe some of the fault is actually yours as well for the above reason.
But no it is the sole fault of DOL Poundlist and any work they are attempting to do is now pointless due to one stuff up..........bit over dramatic don't you think and a massive lack of acknowledgement that the thread has actually had on the HP dogs being seen
As for the pound not knowing what dog that was WTH what is PCC 197 then??

[kidspirit]

Powerlegs, on 10 March 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

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The dog shown in the photos attached and listed as PCC216 is not recognised by pound staff at all.

Really? The staff are blind now too?

PCC 197 BORDER COLLIE MALE 2YRS



and "kenny" aka mislableled dog in question

Unfortunately this is the same dog but the light in both photos is different causing confusion

Duke was a pure black 10yr old dog in very aged condition with the same imp number
Just a very innocent accident
With an upsetting result that noone can be blamed for

This post has been edited by kidspirit: 10 March 2012 - 03:07 PM