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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1256849663154943&set=a.602637001909549 still doesn't address the fact that out of the 500,000 known must be born annually (from the census figures of how many millions of australians have a pet dog or cat) the ankc members australia wide bred only 75,000 doubt any of the other pet registries bred much more so that only accounts for some 150,000 of the 350,000 under the radar and would account for the fact that on average 90% of lost dogs scanned dont have a chip..despite chipping ALL puppies bred before being sold has been law for over 30 years now, correct me if I'm wrong!........ so there is still over 300,000 bred and sold by untraceable people............... the under the radar will be the only ones left at this rate. I dont know anyone who wants to become a registered breeder now. to pass the pocta inspection your a puppy farm... no hobby breeders now.. the time line for extinction of registered (both ankc and pet registered) dogs boasted by Peta is well on track. its only the black market that will remain total joke, no crackdown on illegal breeding.. only elimination of registered breeders as peta boasted was well on track in 2020 as the spokesperson said, "legislation to date has been so successful is on track to the extinction of the domestic dog and cat within this generation" so anything else being passed in the last 5 years is just to speed up the process. my vet told me they were not talking the human generation, they mean the pets generation, in 2020 his belief 2040 is more the time line.... considering how many people owe their sanity to their pets, going to be a disaster for mental health facilities...... The policitions and the pet loving people of australia are being blindsided into sending their much loved pets into extinction following the call to eliminate puppy farms when the real agenda is exactly what that peta spokesperson said on air in 2020 prior to that years melbourn cup. is there time to wake up and stop this? If richard miller was right, its passed that line already.

Car thieves are too much in a hurry to look in the back. They've even driven off with children in the back seat.

Yes LG, I would check Arnie's page a couple of times each day and truly never thought he'd be found dead in the ute, such a shock and terribly sad, that beautiful much-loved intelligent dog just left there locked up, he must have been so confused as to why his dad hadn't come for him.

My head wont stop thinking about what happened. Maybe once he realised it wasn't his owner he got a bit aggressive and they were too scared to open the door (it may have been locked too). Maybe he hurt himself trying to get to them? I absolutely don't want to think about the other possibility. But why couldn't they have left the vehicle in like a small shopping complex with high foot traffic where someone would've heard and noticed a dog left in a car much quicker? People are so saddened and angry about this up here. They want blood. It's just one step too far for people to accept with pointless crime. Clearly a large dog in your car is not a deterrent to theft.

they could have opened the door- poor Arnie. I hope the offender is found!

Just horrible. As his owner, you would be turning your mind inside out imagining Arnie's possible suffering.

Thanks for taking the time to create and account and reply, appreciate it. Hope she is doing well Steve

I know Cindie personally and can confirm she is no longer breeding.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pets/german-shepherd-arnie-found-dead-inside-stolen-hilux-in-brisbane/news-story/4c3148ce5bd6932db64c2285d444ee76

That’s really interesting. It’s great to hear of people using them effectively.

1080 is horrible. So are livestock deaths from dog attacks. I’d love to think that guardian dogs could prevent the suffering but I’ve yet to be convinced that it is a widely applicable solution. It would be interesting to know whether or not the farmers in your region have opted against guardian dogs for well-considered reasons.

My sister had 2 of them for years on her sheep (for wool) and goat (for meat export) farm in NSW. You would rarely see them up near the house unless the flock had come up that close. There was a fenced yard off the house yard where the vehicles and hay was stored. There was also a chicken run off the back of the big storage shed. They got a Maremma for there. Certainly not as big a roam space as the livestock and he interacted with a lot more humans, but there were no issues. He just hung out with his chickens. But they didn't just buy 'a dog' - they bought one specific for purpose from a skilled breeder.

I think with the right owner & very much the key right owner a breed can thrive not doing its job if many other avenues are fulfilled . On the flipside when we where on the Gundog club we got weekly emails from people looking for guidaince to rehome there working Cocker Spaniels as they where to active to live with, where going bonkers in an apartment life etc . People brought them because they had less coat so grooming would be easier Lack of common sense applies buying any dog & theres alot out there

Perhaps the worst thing that can happen to a breed is for it to appear in a movie, or an ad, or be owned by a celebrity, or should that be appear in a game in these times. I think that happened to Maremmas with the movie Oddball. I once found an Anatolian who was a few suburbs away from his home. A Turkish family owned him, perhaps when they were children some relatives had some Anatolians.

Hi - no experience here, but I agree with what you said . Our local town has a few maremmas - they are often listed as missing/escaped /found wandering . I suspect they are being kept as you said, for a half dozen sheep - or as pets and are bored/unsettled. A large poultry farm has them, and they do well - they have a HUGE flock to guard, decent fencing, and seem to be very effective against foxes/roaming dogs. Out where we are no one has them , everyone uses 1080

I totally understand your fed up, it must be very difficult to manage on a daily basis. Jilly seems like an adorable little dog, I hope she finds a family to match soon. Tutuapp

Hi all, Trying to locate this breeder, if they are even still around? Googling shows the hobby farm sold in 2024.. In 2016 I brought a puppy into my life from Witzend who was my greatest mate and the best dog in the world.. We recently lost him to Pulmonary Fibrosis. If Witzend still exist, im looking to touch base to see if any of his blood line is still going. Cheers

Just a heads up, not condoning or condemning, just mentioning……a friend of mine recently waited for nearly 4 months for her registration papers due entirely to DNA testing taking an inexplicably long time to process.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2025-11-14/dog-breeds-emerged-10000-years-ago-in-stone-age-study/105996544

Lucky boy!! Bet his owners are over the moon

Thank you, I will keep it in mind.

ABC News

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-12/qld-ergon-energy-dog-attacks-meter-readers-plea/105999238

https://www.9news.com.au/national/enstein-missing-dog-found-in-south-australia-after-seven-weeks/8936e295-0288-4df4-b1b2-3b77c0e48ede

I ain't expecting to get work though HR - in short, we're after those who don't sell to wollies or maccas