pixie_meg

I'd like to join in with my first week. Doing Adonys.

Congratulations, she is gorgeous!

it is best to be safe. Adonys had a reaction to a bee sting a couple of months back. His breathing started to become affected. Some deal with it at home with human antihistamine and i might choose to do that next time.

100 sounds like a lot but isn't actually that hard. But regardless you cant just get the puppy and do no socialising and expect a well rounded pup. This is what i follow. 1. Regularly go out in public in the first 6 months. This way they meet people and can see other dogs. They are also exposed to sounds and sights that they should get used to. 2. Find appropriate dog role models of different types to learn from and play with. 3. be aware of the fear periods to minimise issues.

i'll add Borzoi. So fast and when they trip over themselves it looks so scary. love them playing chicken too.

to who ever suggested the saluki, the OP wants an obedience dog and i wouldn't be recommending a sighthound for that. great dogs but really so much harder than the other breeds to teach obedience. I like the suggestion of the Lappie. I love setters also.

How do you pronounce schipperke? Is it with a ee sound on the end? People get Borzoi wrong all the time. Its not hard. you say it how its written. They're forever saying boyzoi.

1. not too needy. 2. Not a huge exercise or grooming need. 3. proud/confident 4. good recall 5. cuddly with family i'll add another 6. large My borzoi is everything except the recall. the younger Zoi is learning recall but the independence and prey drive are difficult to work with.

my initial first choice was an afghan, which i could have easily got a pup but my second choice was a borzoi and there was a nice litter on the ground and I liked the breeder. So i went with the zoi and have not regretted it at all.

yep we have witching our t about 8pm but Oberon takes the brunt of it and enjoys it so all good then.

we had the same problems with Oberon. It is believed that the dogs didn't see him as another dog. We've had supposedly fine dogs go out of their way to attack him. we've had working kelpies eye him off as though he is livestock,

You can't necessarily say one pedigree makes a particular litter 'better' than another. It depends on what you are after. If you are after a healthy pet, you'd be best judging the dogs by viewing the parents to see if their temperaments are good for your family. If you are after a show dog then the pedigrees will give you a place to start researching. I agree that you do want to choose a breeder who you feel comfortable talking to.

Congratulations!!

mine don't wear them. Any collar on unsupervised is a choking risk Also don't like the chemicals. And i've also heard reports that they get ticks anyway. i much prefer to just check my dogs daily. Its a nice bonding thing anyway.

i did a quick scan and noticed it really seemed like a guideline. The word 'should' was used a lot rather than 'must'. I guess it at least states some guidelines so that puppy farmers can't say whoops we didn't know that wasn't ok. etc. some of the breeding specifics were interesting. only 4 litters her bitch. What does the ANKC think is appropriate? and not breeding over the age of 6 isn't really fair on a healthy bitch. I'd like to hear others opinions. what are the issues with this document.

Fantastic photos once again. Stunning models too.

In that case say yes. Now was not a good time to get our second dog but i'm glad we did it.

send them my way. love seeing my boy in the ring but not so keen on handling him myself

where do i find one of these people who may handle my monster. lol.

so if i (in QLD) buy a pup from NSW. The breeder transfers pup into my name. Do i then need to tell Dogs QLD before i show?? I'm already registered with them.

so long as you insure before any condition is seen at the vet and so long as you pay at the right time each year, it shouldn't be considered pre existing. otherwise , what the point.

I never once accused you of not affording a pup. The comment is relevant as far as why breeders set prices and the value of a pup. all which have been brought up in this thread.

i didn't say they shouldn't have one (maybe quote me more correctly), but the initial cost of a pup is so minuscule compared to the cost of yearly upkeep.

Supply and demand is what dives the price. The rarity of a dog does not necessarily demand a higher price; especially when there is no demand. Yes labs are common but they are also in high demand. So... breeders charge more just because they can? Ouch! I think you need to do some research on breeding, there is far more involved than what the potential puppy owner sees. If you want to pay me what the real costs are I would be thrilled. My last pup cost around $4000 due to complications and he was sold for only $1200. By the time you add up stud fees, vet bills including any prog tests A.I's and ultra sounds or xrays or c sections, extra food and any medication that they may need - and any whelping equipment that may need to be purchased or replaced. Time off work so the pups have undivided attention means no income for a several weeks - $1200 for a pup is bloody cheap.... I am not saying that money is not made from litters but if you were to do a yearly or 5 yr plan for those who only have the odd litter what profit is made from one litter has already been spent with problems that often occur in breeding - including loss of whole litters or worse still, loss of the bitch. I have spent thousands just like every other breeder and still been well and truly in the red when the pups are sold. I would love to learn more about the real costs of pedigree breeding. If only more breeder's websites listed a real "glimpse" into the day to day responsibilities and costs involved. A little transparency in the world of pedigree dog breeding could really help potential owners/purchasers to understand the costs involved with rearing a litter; and help that $1200+ price tag become understandable. I am not a breeder but i've learnt a lot from this forum. You have the costs of maintaining a pregnant bitch which includes Ultrasounds and other tests plus extra food. The costs of health testing. You have the costs of lost wages for breeders who have an ordinary paid job every day. You have the costs of vet checks for the pups plus vaccinations for all pups. Sometimes the cost of surgery for Cesareans. The cost of feeding those pups and raising them and also the cost of keeping a pup if it does not find a home. And what happens if there is just one or no surviving pups in the litter or heaven forbid, the mum dies. These are just examples. Its not a pricing its their value. Many Breeders do not cover costs. If a person cannot afford a pup for $1200 it puts into question whether they can afford its yearly maintenance in vet fees, food etc. On referral. Many on this site will likely have experience with breeders in most states. Also registered breeders are supposed to abide by rules for breeding. Its the non ANKC breeders that you are most at risk of getting issues from. A web site will also tell you a lot. If a breeder appears to have litter after litter then i'd stay clear of them.

Forget what breed it is. The question should be about what type of breeder they are. Are they responsible and ethical and health and temperament test. $1200 could be an absolute bargain. Doesn't matter if its show potential or pet, the same amount of effort has gone into that pup.