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  1. Well to me a dog is a dog ,, my dogs have always been well looked after lived long healthy lives and been happy dogs i treat them has mates , after all thats why i get a dog . my dogs have always had a role which was to be a good dog and a familly dog , but protector of the property has well , hence i mainly owned big dogs , and for at least 30 years i alweays had two dogs , i figured they need company during the day if no ones home , , regards sleeping simple they slept where they want inside outside i don't care , some would want to sleep outside your bedroom door others go outside in there kennel had one dog who during the day wanted to be in with you , but at night would howl and scratch the door if you did'nt let him out , he would lie in the middle of the garden in a storm and would refuse to come in , would'nt even go in his kennel but heh i'd say to the wife leave him , he's a dog , and he's got a doggy door if he wants to come in , they have all been mates companions protectors and a joy to own ,, now thats my version My wifes version is different all my dogs ,i've never allowed on the furnture , i'd have a cushion which was for them they knew they have there cushions , but soon has i'm gone the wife allowed them on the settee with her , she would give them a bit of whatever she had , one for you one for me sort of thing dispite me saying they know there meal times , I have never been able to convince my wife there dogs , you don't have to leave the light on for them , and you don't have to leave the tele on for them theve got each other when were not home , , even now , when we go out she will always say to our dog , has she gives him a kiss , won't be long baba be good ,, leaves the tele on for him , he don't care he just sleeps ,, i've put the security cameras on my phone and said to her look at this he's not watching tele , he's not budged he's in his bed asleep ,, no matter how much i say to her , he's not a baba he's a dog ,, her answer is always the same he's my baba ...... Now this all coincides with the kids ,, she talks about our 3 lads , and refers to them has the kids ,, it annoys me , i tell her for gods sake woman there not kids , the youngest is 35 theve all got there own kids , there adults not babies ,,, her answer don't care there my babies , Point being who cares what people call there dog , call it furbaby , baba , or dog has long has its treated well who cares
  2. Thinking , if i wanted a dog thats easy to train , low maintenance , hardy and fit , capable of long runs in summer , one that likes to stay close to its owner , are usually good off lead ,, my first choice would be a heeler ,, but shedding is or can be an issue , so 2nd choice a kelpie ,,, 3rd choice a springer spaniel ,,, other than that i'd give up and just buy a picture of a dog i liked and stick it in my wallet i have owned a heeler and a springer and will say both used to cross country run with me , both would'nt leave my side and too be honest can't really remember except for the occasional once a week brush spending too much time on grooming with any of them
  3. Think you have to take it into context ,, Always had dogs all my life , but always big dogs and usually two at a time , shepards, boxers , rottys , every single one of them have known there a dog , with bounderies , and always under my control , with verbal commands , never had one that did'nt know his place in the pack , and did'nt respond to commands ,, all of them have been inside outside dogs , Just sleep where they want to , all have been good watch / gaurd dogs , simply because thats what i wanted out of a dog and trained them for ,, But all of them came to work with me and really had to be TOTALLY under control , yet freindly too strangers which they met every day ,, i found the best way to get all this was NEVER forget they are a dog and they have instincts you have to either encourage , or watch very closely , example one male rotty i had , has freindly has he was , with strangers or people he knew , NO ONE was allowed to play rough with him ,, shoving your arm in his mouth and pushing shoving was a no no , he could go from wo to go in seconds it was instinctive in him he just had security dog tendencies without being trained ,, yet he was probably one of the frendliest dogs i've owned he loved people but you had to remember he was a dog and rough play was out , it was never him i had to tell always the other people , who because he was so freindly and wanted a pat , they felt they could go one step further .A security firm wanted to buy him off me , after there head trainer there seen how reactive he could be after being teased . I never did he was afamilly pet , abit one which you really had to remember HE WAS A DOG Now i say take it into context ,, they were all big dogs healthy boisterois , playful , and confident all had the traits and breeding what you expected out of a shepard or a rotty all were excellent examples of there paticular breed and all needed a strong owner and needed to be treated like dogs ... However the dog i have now a little shitzu / maltese cross ,,, he's the most gentle dog you could find , i get on the floor to roll around with him and unlike the other dogs , he's not interested , he just wants to sit on someones lap and suck there thumb ,,, however he's not totally undog , he is actually a good little watch dog definetly lets you know if someone is about , thats when he's awake , he loves his walks and when walking if i let him off the leash he becomes a terrier puts his nose to the ground and will not stop sniffing , but you got to let him do it he's a dog ,, most times if others are around he is on leash and will not walk instead just meanders sniffing one plant to the next , .i have a houseboat and spend a lot of time on the river just us in the bush ,, but he will not go off the boat UNLESS he follows me , he's too scared he'll defo follow me , but no way will he go on his own,,, so how can you treat this fella like the others you cant , he shows dog characteristics , example lying at my feet while i type this ,, if i get up and go watch tv , he will get up and come in jump on the settee and snuggle up , but thats not till after he wakes up from where he is ,,, little fellas like him can be sucks but you tend to treat them accordingly like babys , so like i say its in context , no way would i treat a mastiff or a shepard the same way , these dogs need to be trained , under control and do has you command without question ,,, ths fella well he's just there like an inquisitive little baby walking around when he's awake , so he tends to get treated less like a dog especielly from my wife , who sits with him on her lap for hrs I tend to talk to him has well ,,, I tell him i'm gonna get a proper dog soon ,, he just tilts his head , looks at me like i'm stupid , and goes to sleep LOL
  4. I have purchased a springer spaniel , a German Shepard , a staffy and a couple of rottys from reputable breeders over the years ,, and in every single case i have gone along looked at the litters and been told ,, that that and that one , are top quality and show dog potential , there x amount ,, and this this and this one are healthy but not show quality there cheaper all come with pedigrees , but only them can be shown thats why there more money . This i felt was fair , and has i've said before on posts , a couple of trhem the breeders actually stuffed up because my pet only dog turned out to be great , i just did'nt want to be involved in showing dogs , Now though its different , i was looking for a dog and just kept getting told LR only but still the same price ,, in the end i got a rescue dog ,, worked out well cheaper by thousands , vacc , desexed , and micro chipped all for $450 and he's a great dog But unfortunatly the whole episode made me very very wary of breeders who claim to want the best for the breed but realisticly there just protecting there income ,, like i've said before our council set rules regards breeding , who died and made breeders town sherrif ,,, I actually do know my dogs and too be honest looking for a shepard , most i seen were bad examples of the breed , just has well they were on LP because showing them would of only shown how bad a breeder the breeders actually were ... BUT the prices were show dog prices
  5. He loves ya ,, get him a playmate
  6. I would of thoght it would be a no brainer , to have a fenced area or a dog run , to stop the dogs roaming off especielly at night , and too keep them away from roo's , know a guy who had a lot of roo's come on his property and his two big , no massive pit bulls , and i mean big pitbulls used to go the roo' s and chase them off ,, i warned him and warned him be careful one day they will not run ,, he laughed thought it was a big joke , until early hrs of the morning it kicked off , the roo's did'nt run , and killed one of the dogs outright , the other was very seriously injured , course you should fence your dogs
  7. are dogs still allowed in the back of utes
  8. Bought two dogs in the past , one a GSD the other a staffie ,, i mention these two because both were prime example of there breed , both i paid a premium for , both had really really good pedigrees , both the breeders kept in contavct with me and showed an interest in them ,,, both the breeders tried to get me to show them , both breeders were proud of these dogs , BUt showing dogs was not for me i just could'nt be bothered ,, but i was proud of the fact people used to stop me in the street or on the dog beach and ask , where did you get him he's fantastic , and when i gave out the breeders number i know for a fact they got calls has to regards pups , too me they were pets ,, but the breeders produced and sold top quality dogs these dogs were mine and if i chose to show or breed them i felt i was entitled to do so , after all the breeders were doing it , who says there better than anyone else i was and did pay a premium to buy quality dogs , whats more these breeders were proud of there dogs and actually wanted me to breed and or show , it looked good on them . But both these breeders would tell you when you bought that ones a ripper , thats below show quality he's cheaper but no papers , Now fast forward a few years and its alll LR ,,,, WHY ,, thats an easy question to answer , CONTROL , yep control of there buisness and lets have it right when you have 2 litters a year from your dogs at 5 grand a pup its big buisness ,, limited registar cuts out competition , it also ensures you can throw any two dogs together and still command high prices for bad examples of the breed ,, just look at a lot of the hunchback shepards around ,,, i'm totally against LR , Breeder breeds champions for show or breeding , sell on mains , if its not good quality sell cheaper without papres after all can't be shown ,, but LR sell the bad examples at the show dog prices , win win for the breeder , i will say i've had a few disciusions with breeders over the years who bbject to my thinking , but like i say to them who made them sherriff , in my state you have to be a breeder or get the dog desexed , and the council have the police to help enforce that , breeders don't need to be judge and jury , Its all about protecting there income and cutting out competition
  9. Think your dead right about traits being bred out of dogs ,, i especielly look at the german shepard dogs , i look at a lot of them on the dog beach opposite my house and think poor buggers , they don't even look like shepards , more like large foxes or jackals with a big hump ,, .. although i did see a beuty the other day asked the guy who was the breeder and he was lucky enough he got him from the pound .... I spoke to a guy who actually trained dogs for security firms for a living , he was telling me they have a BIG problem getting good stock , he explained most of what they get will not bite , that protective instinct has been bred right out of them along with a lot of the other instincts that make a shepard a shepard all in the name of good breeding , . He was telling me that the ones he looks at to buy cannot be trained to protect , and when they will bite 9 out of 10 times there fear biters , and therfore not to be trusted ,, we had a discusion about it and i bowed to his 40 plus years of training and breeding shepards ,,, dobes and rottys ,,,, he was adamant that breeders are thinking there breeding aggresion out of these dogs when there actually breeding the characteristics of that breed out of the breed ,,,, basicly because people want a rotty or shepard with a golden retriver temprement and there being catered for , We touched on the look epsecielly the hunchback look of a lot of shepards has opposed to the dogs they import for breeding , that he put down to really two bad examples being bred , by people who just don't have the resources to bring in the good stock , ,,,, suppose these topics are alwayss open for debate
  10. It would really annoy the hell out of me to think that this breeder had conned me , possibly if it had been returned conned someone else and been paid twice ,, i honestly would get all the info together , get a letter from my vet explaining what the dog had , how long ect ect ,, document it all together with a list of phone calls , letters , ect ect ,, pay a couple of hunfdred dollars more and take them to the small claims crt , no lawyers allowed , just you and them and hopefully a judge who see's the breeder for what they are
  11. Gee i've been lucky in 50 years of owning dogs , never had one thats been scared of storms , fireworks , cars , lawn mowers , or anything like that ,, I live on the coast , and come winter the high light of living here is the storms ,, mostly early hrs of the morning , they will often wake me up and i get up open all the front blinds and the doors to the balcony , turn all the lights of and sit watching the storms and lightning ,,, the bigger the storm the more i like it watching the lightning light up the room and the sky , followed by thunder loud enough to make you think the house is shaking my little maltese cross we have now , where will he be ,,, sat alongside me or on my knee , not giving a care in the world , in fact sometimes if i'm inside watching , he''ll toddle off on the balcony and watch himself ,,
  12. HOW TRUE I've owned big dogs all my life, boxers , shepards , rottys ( my favorites ) heelers , close favorite to the rottys and every single one has obeyed every thing i say , and with no training has such , just over time they learnt sit, stay , come and OUT when it was time ,, my rottys especielly i did'nt even have to command them to go out , just a look and a glance and point at the door and off they would go all off them have been good on or off the leash , when i said heel they would bound back and go to heel , i think they want to know who's boss and then want to please you , well thats the only answer i can think off because i never had any formal training on how to train a dog and i never took any of them to training schools just spent a lot of time with them . Today i was at a freinds house and they have there second minniture shnauzer , there first had to be locked away when people came it was a biter ,, this second one was misbehaving its 12 month old , and they were shocked at how i could get it to sit , and behave in a few minuites , i just explained he has to learn No means NO , Inside 15 minuites it was sitting , giving me its paw , and roling over for a treat , they were amazed ,, but like i said to them its a dog not a baby treat it has such and a treat is the best way , Yet i have a small fluffy little white thing , bit of everything , and even though he's well behaved , he will not do a thing i say , just completly ignores me when he gets a mind too
  13. Don't mess about ,, get a letter of the vet , go down and take a summons out in the small claims crt , document every letter, phone call and tex you send , and send plenty reminding her of her obligation also tell her you are seeking a return on vets bills ,, ,, stuff her , what do you think she would do if you paid by cheque and it bounced , treat her the same ,,,, Some love to play holier than thou , defending there high prices because of heart checks , hip checks ect ect ,, and these breeders that charge the high prices and don't do the checks , are ruining it for everyonbe other breeders has well
  14. You were sensible enough to know what you done was the right thing , and too be honest the trained gaurd dog thing , with a dog that barks consistently sort of says it was'nt getting the correct training , coupled with the fact that she was too strong for you ,, well sort of indicates problems , later , not trained properly too strong for owner bad mix ,,, if she's with someone who spends a lot of time with her she will probably love it there ,, , sems like your an excellent dog owner , you just got the wrong type of dog , lots of more suitable dogs out there
  15. Totaly correct ,, If someones looking for a dog they want a dog , and 9 out of 10 times these people would'nt know what questions to ask ,, someone wants a springer spaniel ,, they might ask , what color are the pups , what sex ,, but i doubt there going to ask , does it have one ear longer than the other , or are the parents good gun dogs with soft mouths , are the pups used to shotgun fire , have they been in the water to retrieve or are they scared of water , No its likely to be , color , sex and PRICE , what order will differ , and too be honest any breeder who got shirty with me because i asked the price , i would'nt buy of them ,, i'd just think they put money before the dog , so can't be trusted ,,,
  16. Interesting . you mention GSD remember years ago , probably 20 --- 25 years ago ,, out of curiosity going to a show of sorts Shepards only ,I was looking for one to buy , 95% of the dogs i was looking at , too be honest looked wrong , hump backs , too much of a slope , narrow skinny faces ,,, then i come across two absolutly beutiful strong excellent looking dogs they were not together , , i aproached the owner of this big male , had a discusion , with him , and he then told me the other one i admired was his dogs pups , ,, HE TOOK ME RND TO HIS HOUSE AND SHOWN ME HIS OTHERS , HE HAD ABOUT 5-6 , the big male was a german import ,, he shown me the mother she also was a german import marvelous looking dogs , unfortunatly for me no pups available , he only bred the one litter ,, Anyway i said to him , bet you get sick of winning these shows , ,, never won one he said , i was shocked , what about that pup he's marvelous i said surely he'll win today ,, never do he said thats why i'm getting out of it ,, he said ,,, i said to him most these other shepards don't even look like a proper shepard , more like skinny jackals , his answer was ,, they tell me there looking for fine dogs like them ,, i spoke to a few other owners who said we breed them fine nowadays ,, this was bred with that and that was bred with this ,,, i quickly relized , that most these people did'nt have the money and recources to bring in good stock , so bred with there mates and then started to change the awards to suit themselves ,,, make of this what you will , but i can honestly tell you , EVERDAY of the week , i watch people walk past my house , with shepards i live right opposite the dog beach , and everyday i look at the poor things and think they look deformed , most have skinny snouts and bigger hunchbacks than the fella who rings the bells ,, shame really , then i watch a police dog , on tele and think thats a shepard , . Another thing with them , the very things that made them a great dog seem to being bred out of them , ,,, Not meaning to start a argument here , but i believe its all to do with breeders playing police , taking dogs of main registar , and why ,, to save the world or to protect there income , different people different views i suppose
  17. Hard one really , i'm sure a contract is a contract , and it will be covered ,, think if it was me though , i'd probaly sell the puppy again which i'm sure the breeder will do ,, and sling them back 500 bucks , keeping 500 for them wasting my time and just being imbiceles , then i would be really REALLY GLAD it happened and my puppy was'nt going to such an idiot ,,, Thats like wanting kids , then putting your new born in the bin , because no one told you they cry and want feeding at night Imbiceles
  18. Honestly , there dogs , and has much has we all love our dogs , its worth bearing in mind that they are dogs ,,, This one has bit the other so badly its lost an eye , now you can give it all the medication you want , you can see all the dog behavourists you want , but the facts are your never ever going to be able to leave them all alone and not be suprised if it happens again and he loses the other eye , then after that an ear , ,,, My son had a little shitzu cross that used to attack the other little dog he had , , so he gave it away to his brother , its now perfect a beutiful little dog , but first it had to learn its place in its new home , his brother has a blue heeler , and the shitzu went for that has well , virtually the first day it arrived , the heeler put it in its place , and every now and then when he feels brave , the heeler puts it in its place , you just have to remember its a dog not a human , and they need to know there place , its just showing who's leader of the pack and it will carry on doing so , If a dog attacks other dogs or people give them to someone who can control them or change its enviroment ,,, , like i said we all love our dogs but some people think there people not animals , and a daily doze of prozac will fix things , , having a dog which you can't trust with the other dogs or people , i'm afraid just is'nt fun , or worth it , there would be lots of homes out there where he wil be took care off has a one dog familly member , or like in my sons case with another dog he cannot boss or hurt .
  19. Its a hard one , theres 5 sides to the story ,, Rescue dogs are fine , , i've had 3 from the pound including my current dog , all have been great dogs . However if you want a specific type of dog because it suits your needs or you just like the look of them , well expect to pay more from a breeder . Now once that is established breeders , spend copiious amounts of money we all know that and are entitled to a return and maybee even a profit ,, we all know that has well its not rocket scence , Now how much should you pay ,, for me if i want a dog for showing which is going to be good enough for the crufts dog show , i would expect to pay BIG MONEY , and then expect the dog to be on mains regitrar , with the papers and pedigree to back it up , and after i / it the dog won the crufts show , i would expect to get some money back from its pups , But if i bought a dog from jack up the road who just likes great danes , owns two , puts them together and then tells me he's a responsible breeder , and thats why his pups are 6 grand each , well sorry jack unless you give me mains registrar , i'm not giving you 6 grand,, i would also want a good pedigree , and too see that jacks two dogs are a good example of the breed ,,, Now Jack can get has shirty has he likes but for me , its simple ,, breeders of good dogs especielly show dogs are proud of what they have acheived and whaen asking big money are proud there offsprings are producing champion dogs , when the purposly do not want you to show or breed there dogs , that just says closed shop ,, go on bugger off i don't want you breeding and selling pups to cheap , because at the moment i can get 5 grand a pup with no or little money spent and big returns and i don't want competition , Now they will call you a BYB and defend themselves all day long but the facts are most of them are BYB , like i said quality dogs will reflect the price , and if i want a dog to show or breed from , then i will expect to pay big money but for a pet , nope not me i'd certainly look for a rescue dog . But the price of dogs being very high , its really just a case of supply and demand , In days gone by you wanted a German Shepard or a rotty , if you wanted a pedigree champion you went to an established quality breeder if you did'nt well there was always the trading post you could go buy one from , because Jack and Jill had two shepards that had pups ,, thats no longer there or not much , so you have to go too a registered breeder ,, who polices the rules by refusing to sell on mains registrar and insisting you get the pup desexed ,,, But bear in mind they are dog breeders no police ,, now bear in mind in SA , its illigal to buy a dog from a breeder and not desex it UNLESS you become a registred breeder yourself ,, so the laws are there there is no need for breeders in SA to give themselves a badge and police the law ,, the only reason for insisting on ltd registra is simple ,, CUT OUT COMPETITION .. But like i said if Joe Blo spends thousans and thousands , producing award winning show dogs he can expect a return on his money thats fair ,,, If his neighbor Bill spends thousands importing working German Shepard lines to be bred for security , don't expect these dogs too be cheap , you will get what you pay for ,, the problem is'nt with these people its with the others that just register with the appropriate assoc , call themselves reptable breeders and really just offer poor sub standard dogs for ridiculous prices , and to defend them,selve quote the figures that the good breeders spend
  20. Wow .... I think you know the answer , you.ve got a loaded gun there all ready to fire , its just going to need the right circumstances and it will be Whoops , sorry your honor , i did'nt really think he would tear the calf muscle of a tradie , or Sorry Sam , i knew i should of got rid of him ,,,, You know what to do you don't really need anyone on here to tell you ,,,, With saying all that i blame the rescue group , the fact that they had to watch you and the dog for so long means they KNEW that dog was'nt suitable for rehoming , not everyone is Ceasr Milan ,, and a dog that bites especielly one that bites through fear or pain is a potentially dangerous weapon ,, If you paid for him i would be asking for my monbey back , they took advantage of your good nature
  21. I have had dogs from the rspca , over the years , and they have been good dogs , but that was 25 plus years ago , my current dog is from the rspca , i ahd been looking for a dog preferably a rescue dog , for a while and noticed how few there were , I quickly relized they were not keeping dogs for long most of the local shelter kennels were used for boarding , and only seemed to keep a few , just enough to be the rspca and get the grants ,, I came across my little fella the first day he came in , in fact i was there when they brought him to his kennel for the first time and put in public , i straight away went to the office and said i'll have him ,, only to be told he had a hold on him , one of the girls working there wanted him , fair enough , but i insisted they put my name down has a second , 5 days later i was back again looking for a pet , still only the same 5-6 dogs in , plus him , speaking to another volunteer about him she told me the other girl decided she did'nt want him , i went to the office and reminded them i was the second hold , , next day i got a call to come and get him ,, But guess what ,, i was told because he was such a cutie and they would have no trouble selling him the normal standard fee of $350 at that time did'nt apply , i would have to pay an extra $150 dollars ,, I payed it , but it left a sour taste , it was'nt about the dog going to a good home it was about money . I can gaurantee you if you go to my local shelter , you will only find 5-6 scared little cross breeds , at the back of the kennel , who i'm convinced are only there to meet requirements for grants ,, ,
  22. Its simple really DO NOT TRUST AN ANIMAL 100% ,I've never been without a dog my whole life , just never been a time in my life when a dog was'nt there , I took in a blue heeler 18 months old he was / is a fantastic dog , he was brought up by a single mother with a child and a baby , she had to find a home so i took him , what a great dog he turned out to be , so much so that when my son went looking for a dog and he had two todllers i insisted they take him , i knew he was a great familly dog , 7 years later they still have him , his best mate is my youngest grandaughter he follows her everywhere she's 18 month old , she sleeps he snuggles up and sleeps with her , she eats , he paitently waits for her too share her food with him ,, but guess what we still do not totally trust him , he's a animal a dog so you always have to watch ,, my little maltese cross , is the most gentle dog in the world , but i don't trust him around real small kids , he gets excited around them and will play a bit rougher than he will with adults ,, love them , look after them , but never ever completly trust them , Just remember they are dogs not humans , and just like humans , they can snap ,, ,,, example , 30 odd years ago i had two boxers ,mother and son , i got from the pound , well trained , great freindly dogs , everyone loved them , but one time out with me they were both on the leash in a busy street , and for no reason at all both at excatly the same time , took off across the road , they darted that quick and fast , they just pulled out of my hand , run across a busy road , nearly getting run over , and baled up some bloke , out of dozens of shoppers it waas this one guy , they baled him up growling at him i run across got there leads apolagised and just did'nt have a clue why , they chose this fella , but choose him they did , never ever before or after had they shown any agresion whats so ever , but it just went to show , there animals and you always have to watch closely no matter how good they are .
  23. Prices are scanadlous freind of mine this week paid $7000 yes you read it correct $7000 for a poodle cross lab or a labradoodle has he chose to call it , Dont care what anyone says its a mongrel its not a registered breed , you can't tell me that this breeder yes breeder is what she called herself was'nt in it for the money only , for my two penth worth if there a good breeder they would'nt be mixing breeds they would be breeding pure bred puppies , he was crazy ,, said he wanted a big dog , a black dog , that does'nt shed too much ,, why oh why did'nt he just go get a giant shnauzer or something ,,, Good thing is i do know of one guy who was selling mastiff pups , started of at 5 grand went down and down until he was stuck with the parents and 3 massive 9 month old pups , which he gave away he could'nt afford to keep them a freind who took one had it put down because at just over 12 month old it killed a neigbors dog , then killed another on the beach , he knew someone else who took one and they had it put down after it bit there kid , yeh proper responsible breeding going on out there And i say good thing because they never managed to make all the money they thought they would
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