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Genetics is a big consideration as you have seen. There are many dogs out there that use extremely submissive behavior to cope with stress. Some dogs can barely take any stress at all before reacting (which is a massive temperament fault, but unfortunately too commonly seen in some breeds) Dogs do what comes naturally through genetics - so breed, species etc, and what they have learned gets them the result. Remember that last bit. A dog that lunges and bites is not necessarily inherently aggressive, it could very well have learned that displaying this behavior gets it the result it wants (so get scared, lunge out, scary thing runs away! Brilliant!) It's part of the theory of training protection dogs (under controlled parameters) but in a dog allowed to just do what it wants and experiments it spirals out of control as you have seen. It becomes uncontrollable and unpredictable. Is your dog unfixable? Saving some weird medical condition I would say not. But take no prisoners. The soft touch and permissiveness is the open door to this happening in a dog with a poor upbringing and the wrong kind of genetics. I'm not saying be mean or shout, smack etc but don't take her cringing, rolling, goo goo eyes as a signal to back off her having to behave. Trust me, a lot of these things can be learned behaviors and she's controlling you! She's a young dog, there's no reason she can't turn around with a bit of firm, military style training :laugh: like it or lump it, get up and love life Dogs are not people in the way they think, yes PTSD is now a considered condition in canines BUT we are talking about dogs that have been through situations like a bomb exploding right next to them out in combat, not just having a shitty upbringing. And as for the multiple home angle, there are many dogs who go through this as part of their life. Some working dogs change handlers and environments several times in their lives and there are no ill effects, in fact it's considered standard and normal. They cope fine, I just handed one back and he's going to live with someone he's never met before. I want to frame that. That's totally hit the nail on the head.

Yes two weeks foster with no proper temperament test or help for her situation has probably compounded the problem. I think the point is to look forward and not dwell on what happened before. Dogs are quite resilient, and the past WILL come back to haunt you if you keep it in your mind with the dogs behavior. We rescued a Malinois that was beaten severely, dumped out on farms and left to starve. She was in shut down at the pound and when we brought her home she was so afraid she bounced around the house like a pinball in fear (if I had plaster walls she would have literally decimated them) It took us a few months, but she's now outgoing, confident, plays tug of war, will paw for attention and she's a green Search and Rescue Dog with already 100% success rate in her training. We just didnt accept her fearful behaviour and helped pull her forward.

Oh it doesn't matter, if she's conscious and hungry we're off, especially if there's more then one person eating then it's all over. And dinner time :laugh: that's at warp speed

OMG Victoria does this too :laugh: round and round and round, then you pick her up, put her 180 and she just keeps going I thought she was just shpesh

I know the owner of K9 IQ and I also know Pro K9, you can't go wrong with either of them if you choose them. Ultimately go down and take a look, see if you like the environment and how things are run :) you have to be comfortable with the environment so you can get the most out of it

Not really because it's the material itself which absorbs the heat AND the problem with those materials is they store heat as well over a prolonged period. So you find heated pavers etc remain quite warm even when the weather has cooled off. The only way to get rid of the heat is to wet it with a hose that increases the heat transfer out of the material (I used to have to do that with my house) Why don't you try some sythetic material like fake grass or rubber matting on there.

Bugger it just kick the parents. Then when a dog bites one of the kids one day the parents will cry blue murder Our neighbour has a big ambull thing which is constantly barking and tearing at the fence. No one EVER goes out into the back yard with it, ever. The only thing her kid has learned now is to go out and scream SHUTUP at the dog, scream some more at it and belt it. Thumbsup for parenting AND animal care from that scozza.

Try a 30+kg Malinois cramming himself into a pug sized crate at dinner time because he just goes into autopilot and thinks any crate he squishes into = get my dinner My Dogue used to sleep so close to campfires his fur would burn from the flying embers. He didn't even flinch, we came back one trip he looked like he had been attacked by a whipper snipper :laugh: And not a dog but Winston the 'how do I get down' ferret ... oh yes he can climb, then has a brain fart ... Hey I can see my house from here! Uhhh guys little help ... Hey I made it.... oh crap

Not being able to concentrate is also a byproduct of a dog that has not been taught to learn. Being calm, concentrating and listening is not a natural ability in most dogs, it has to be taught. The dog has been pushed pillar to post, stressed out and untrained. I'd say this is a natural progression of what haredown whippets has stated.

There's never an excuse for being able to access people and causing harm. If the dog is of an unstable temperament it's up to the owner to restrict or cut off access to people/animals who could be injured. The problem is more the law wont accept the excuses either.

She needs to be kept away from strangers until you get her properly assessed and a plan put into place. A nervous dog, particularly some breeds like herding breeds, will nip. You are very lucky she was not reported, new dog or not that is no excuse really for her behavior. Don't be permissive, she needs routine, training and structure to help her understand what is acceptable and what is not. There are plenty of people on here who can help you depending what area you are in. I go to Melbourne regularly, then there are others as well if you pop into the training forum who are also in Melb.

Neigh and hold omg love it ... I'm thinking a 17HH thoroughbred crowding you into the blind is enough to make anyone poo their pants, now to get a nice grip :laugh:

Oh heck yeah ... I'm trying to work out how to modify the routine so the horse can run the blinds victorian government says nothing about horses doing simulated bitework O_o

Over the years I have not found that to be true, particularly down here. Nice to see you guys have it right in SA

Don't think about it, just do it :laugh: jump into the deep end and you will probably find you do fine. And trust me, the less you stress the better you will do. THere's nothing lost in jumping in if your dog can do the routine, just get a couple of people to act like a 'judge' and see how you go.

I know isn't it ... I looked at the video, looked at our frenchie and a somewhat crackly lightbulb appeared

Steph I have a dog school, and the sportdog club is separate for more comp level work :) The dog school in North Geelong still runs tiny classes and if you need one on one attention it's always there. I mean literally tiny classes of no more then 5 dogs max. We're taking all breeds in the Sportdog club, we've got Amstaffs already in training for Sch style obedience and tracking, they're absolute legends. I'm still getting used to over enthusiastic amstaff cuddles done from a full run ... nose still not broken :laugh: The point is to give everyone a chance, no matter the breed, to enjoy higher level training in that type of environment. Even in other states Schutzhund clubs are not accessible unless you have certain breeds. OK in Vic we can't do bitework, but just like in the USA and Europe they have everything from terriers to retrievers doing schutzhund and associated sports. See even frenchies can dog it :p

Whatever you like. We are going to cover SAR, Schutzhund (the legal bits) competitive tracking, obedience, agility, scent detection etc. You can enter any ANKC comp and breeze through with what we train. I am going to start offering Civilian Companion title, not ANKC recognised but it goes beyond any other temp test out there in Australia at the moment. Only available at the moment through my school and Sportdog club but will look into amending/branching it for some breed clubs who are interested in using it. The sportdog club is not group classes, it's individual attention, short burst training like the old clubs used to be. People learn better and the dogs progress faster.

No reason why you cannot at all. Once the track becomes heavily rewarding the dog will leave all distractions. I've taught white shep, amstaffs, labs etc tracking and it's not too difficult at all. Even the little oodlies can do it and theyre actually really good detection dogs would you believe. If you're close to Geelong why don't you pop down for a workshop day :)

Human medications from pharmacies are subsidised as well remember so the price is a lot lower. Take away the subsidy and you would fall over if you knew how much some common medications actually cost. Online is cheaper because of lack of overheads like a store front, extra customer service staff etc.

Look into Sprinter Gold Energy E oil instead of fish oil caps, it's more complete and also comes with Vitamin E which is really good for mopping up nasty compounds that can cause inflammation. Also a LOT cheaper, from greyhound supplies online or stockfeeds stores if you ask them to order it for you :)

They're also masters of subtlety... There is no rottie here on the bed ... you see nothing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28T0kravt_4&feature=share First time dog sporter, dogs under 12 months of age, will have to get some tracking videos. We're not opening until 2014 officially, and we're also going to offer SAR training. We already have a couple of dogs started and hope to provide the SES with SAR dogs and handlers.

That's OK just do what I did ... start your own dogsport club

I remember when I first did dogsports a lot of people had two sets of commands - one in German for Sch and one in English for everyday things so not to sloppy the dogs performance on the field when it did things in a more 'casual' manner at home :)