Pippi

AaaHaaa......no wonder your dogs are confused, so am I. If that is the position you are making then you are lying to your dog. I stand by my previous post - IMO you are in the wrong position to make it perfectly clear to your dog where you want him to go.

I didn't move back to the middle before the dog had committed, I sent from the middle. As in I sent from near the right side of the tunnel and then I moved to a middle position and sent from there. Huh???? Sorry you've lost me. I guess its one of those things you need to see. KC....

Just my opinion FWIW..... This I think is where the problem lies - your position. If your dogs are responding to the threadle arm then the problem is clearly after that. If you are trying to get the dog to pull off the left tunnel entrance and then go to the right tunnel entrance then you should not be standing in the middle of the 2 entrances. You should be on the move heading just to the right of the right side entrance. Your feet and shoulders should be supporting this direction and (after you have brought your threadle arm down) you left arm should also be supporting where you want the dog to go. There ya go.... well done. I am a bit confused though as to why you would move back to the middle before the dog has committed to the correct entrance. It is a bit difficult making judgements without being able to see precisely what you are doing.

Thanks Tassie - happy trialling to you as well!! I am over the moon about getting our first Masters title, particularly since Darcy is my first dog and is still quite young. We've had a big few weeks, 3 titles finished in 4 weeks (ADX, JDM and JDO) and the extra passes in Masters was just icing on the cake Have to admit I'm really quite looking forward to having this weekend off from trialling :rofl: I don't believe you just said that.......Hugh congratulations to you and Darcy, that is quite an effort and could well be a record. A bottle of champers would have been appropriate on Sunday for you two - I trust Darcy was adequately rewarded for her efforts...... :rofl:

Have just noticed this post, Congratulations to Rosie and Geoff. She should blitz em again in 09. This weekend at Geelong Pippi and I managed 2 more Excellent Jumping passes, at last achieving our Jumping Dog Excellent Title. Now to start work on the Agility Titles.....cursed contacts......

OK then, if you insist. Pippi and I did manage 2 excellent jumping passes and both 1st places over the weekend at the ADCV agility trial. Must say its "been a long time between drinks" and I was beginning to get a little disheartened. Now I am all unthusiastic again and ready to keep training (especially those cursed contacts). Silvawillow, I did see a few of Kirra's runs - I always love watching her run. Poor Scotty was exhausted while Kirra was still rearing to go again - what a friend, I heard someone suggest to him that he should take her for an hours run before her agility run and maybe she would calm down. Somehow I doubt that. :nahnah:

What a great idea. Considering what has happened in Victoria recently with the bush fires I think every one in a fire prone area should consider doing this.

Could be all of the above I think :rolleyes: Interesting thought. I'm only speaking from an agility background but it seems to me that many of us are very fixed in the idea of 'treat at the end of running the course' which for me was often a jackpot. Now at training I'm trying to actually stop and reward anything that I really like on course, (rather than just the predictable end of contacts and table) so dogs are probably getting the same amount of food, but maybe 5 or 6 pieces during the run rather than 5 or 6 pieces at the end of a run. The funniest comment I have had about that so far was someone who asked why I stopped and did that so many times as if I hadn't then I would have 'had a clear run'. (Not really my goal at training!) Oh my goodness, somebody does not understand what "training" means.. ;)

"The Canine Aggression Workbook" by James O'Heare

Good advice from KI, but I would also like to add that now would be a good time to introduce crate training to puppy. Puppy can be safely crated when you cannot supervise. You can play with Maiya while puppy stays safely in the crate. Toilet training is helped with a crate. Maiya can have some free time away from a boisterous puppy. Maiya gets used to puppy, while keeping puppy safe.

Wow, thanks Erny. I think I agree with Ed Frawley - morally all wrong.

Pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is 'table training'. Never heard of it.

So can we expect the second installment any time soon??????

Go to Cleanrun.com and check out the books and DVD's in the foundation section.

Konrad Most? Rings a bell but not 100%

Relax KC, no-one suggested you were brainwashed & no-one was being rude to you nor to GD & his system. The comment was aimed at a small group in NSW who are unwilling to accept that any method other than GD's could work. Seemed to me that the comment was aimed at those of us who replied. The OP wanted clarification on some points of confusion while trying to train GD system. The reply from DC showed a lack of true understanding of the system. Its reasonable that we should try to clarify for the OP how you would handle the sequence she was referring to and why it is not inconsistent without being labelled as brainwashed. I can and do think for myself and use a system that works for me and my dog. Others can do what they like, I personally don't care - I'm happy with the system I use. So OK, she may have been referring to others but that was not made clear. In any case clarification for the OP needed to be made by those who run and understand the system.

Makes perfect sense to me and I don't see any inconsistency. Maybe you need to watch his videos more carefully or attend a seminar, either GD's or SG's. Sometimes the perceived inconsistency is only apparent in the incorrect application.

LP is pretty right but I think what is confusing you is that you have drawn No 4 on the wrong side of the jump. This is what is making the sequence confusing. It would be very difficult to complete because you would have to threadle between 3 and 4 and this is not the idea in this particular sequence. Hope that helps. :rolleyes:

OMG Trish, just hopped onto DOL to catch up and was shocked to see your post. I had no idea all this had happened since I saw you and Bud last week. Sounds like the ol fella is feeling a little better, my God that heat was not helpful to anyone. Hope the news is all good after Thursday's ultra sound, just keep thinking positive thoughts only and I'm sure he will soon be putting Gabe in his place as usual. Keep your chin up......

Hate to give you the bad news Barb but the weather forecast has been updated. Wednesday......41 Thurs..............40 Fri..................40 Sat.................40 Sun................31 A bit of relief, if we haven't all suffered heat stroke by then.

OMG... I'm seeing lots of reasons/justification for a beautiful big indoor agility arena. How about it KC when are the foundations going down???? BTW Jess, yes I admit that working girl of mine is a bit of a softie, never learnt what REAL work is all about.

I'm going too - guess I'll see all you guys there. I have a large notebook at the ready. Must admit, considering the weather forecast, I'm glad I'm just auditing. Princess Pippi would be running off after the shade thats for sure.

Geez Pippi - you don't expect me to wait that long for my GD fix do you????? Hope it's NOT for sale actually as I'm such a sucker for buying things at seminars, I'll probably buy it again ! Thats OK, you can just give it to me - what are friends for KC It wouldn't surprise me if your order was the first order to be received world wide....

Excuse me Tassie, there is no such thing as a fugly BC pup and I can't wait to meet your new man. Although maybe it is not a good idea I could get veeeeeerrrrry clucky..... Are you attending every day? If you need a baby sitter just call, I can't resist BC babies

I'm taking a chance (hoping) that GD's new DVD will be available for sale at his seminar in January. Maybe I'll save a few $$$$$ then, certainly save on postage at least. Fingers crossed.....