JoeK Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 VOM VOLKERSON Contact : Janine Wallace Location : Auckland QLD Ph : +6421555858 This one up here has a proper SV litter is best you can get in the German Shepherd Dog. Both parents German import VA rating Kkl SchH3 beautiful pups bred by the book. This is the type of showline dogs you making half of the working line dogs bred here look stupid! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstep Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) It is interesting to look at the breed standard, then look at some of the top winning dogs. Clearly a lot of the judges take no notice of the standard they are supposed to be judging to. Should not need a judge or even a standard to tell anyone looking, that this breed has fallen totally off the tracks (at least in the show ring). Edited June 5, 2011 by shortstep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 VOM VOLKERSON Contact : Janine Wallace Location : Auckland QLD Ph : +6421555858 This one up here has a proper SV litter is best you can get in the German Shepherd Dog. Both parents German import VA rating Kkl SchH3 beautiful pups bred by the book. This is the type of showline dogs you making half of the working line dogs bred here look stupid! Joe Tell me more, have you seen these lines working in Qld, Joe? Any dogs in particular I should be looking out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstep Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 VOM VOLKERSON Contact : Janine Wallace Location : Auckland QLD Ph : +6421555858 This one up here has a proper SV litter is best you can get in the German Shepherd Dog. Both parents German import VA rating Kkl SchH3 beautiful pups bred by the book. This is the type of showline dogs you making half of the working line dogs bred here look stupid! Joe Tell me more, have you seen these lines working in Qld, Joe? Any dogs in particular I should be looking out for? I think these are the parents of the litter noted above. So these are top German working lines or show lines? http://www.dogspot.in/puppies/volkersonkennels9-german-shepherd-dog-alsatian/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 VOM VOLKERSON Contact : Janine Wallace Location : Auckland QLD Ph : +6421555858 This one up here has a proper SV litter is best you can get in the German Shepherd Dog. Both parents German import VA rating Kkl SchH3 beautiful pups bred by the book. This is the type of showline dogs you making half of the working line dogs bred here look stupid! Joe Tell me more, have you seen these lines working in Qld, Joe? Any dogs in particular I should be looking out for? I think these are the parents of the litter noted above. So these are top German working lines or show lines? http://www.dogspot.in/puppies/volkersonkennels9-german-shepherd-dog-alsatian/ Yes the litter parents are both VA Kkl1 SchH3 from Germany is highest testing results on the Shepherd Dog and this testing stopping the incorrect traits on the dog from breeding and only the best dogs are good enough to pass on this level. This dogs are West German showline but will have beautiful drive and balance in the temperament and the good health, strength and conformation. Showline dog of this level is better worker than average working line dog. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstep Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 VOM VOLKERSON Contact : Janine Wallace Location : Auckland QLD Ph : +6421555858 This one up here has a proper SV litter is best you can get in the German Shepherd Dog. Both parents German import VA rating Kkl SchH3 beautiful pups bred by the book. This is the type of showline dogs you making half of the working line dogs bred here look stupid! Joe Tell me more, have you seen these lines working in Qld, Joe? Any dogs in particular I should be looking out for? I think these are the parents of the litter noted above. So these are top German working lines or show lines? http://www.dogspot.in/puppies/volkersonkennels9-german-shepherd-dog-alsatian/ Yes the litter parents are both VA Kkl1 SchH3 from Germany is highest testing results on the Shepherd Dog and this testing stopping the incorrect traits on the dog from breeding and only the best dogs are good enough to pass on this level. This dogs are West German showline but will have beautiful drive and balance in the temperament and the good health, strength and conformation. Showline dog of this level is better worker than average working line dog. Joe So you think these dogs are considered to have level top line and absence of roached back that the poster is after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I recommend www.macklinshepherds.com. I sent them an email a few months ago gushing about how I love that they're keeping the traditional look of their German Shepherds and they just very lovely to converse with. If I ever get a German Shepherd, it will be a Macklin. Their dogs are gorgeous. Bear is from Macklin, can highly recommend them Definitely going to contact. Do you have any photos of Bear that we can see :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Diesel in his prime before his skin got bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 As said in the other GO to an all breeds dog show and you will find what you want, a lot of it is in the handling. The slope in the GSD has been done to death. Go to the breeds section on Dogzonline to start your research there. There are a number of breeders still breeding the straight back dogs. Both have already been suggested PM. Good luck with your search Jacqui. Hope you find the dog you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 So you think these dogs are considered to have level top line and absence of roached back that the poster is after? Um no they are not what the OP posted a picture of in the GSD thread of what she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I am trying to find one that has a straight back like this. If anyone knows of any breeders who breed dogs with straight backs, I would love to know of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Try calling it a level back which is what it is, not a straight back. You also need to talk to the breeders you are looking at, as what they would term a 'high drive'dog v what you call one. I would suggest that the high drive you see in your dob will be nothing compared to a german shepherd with a high drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 you do realise that some dogs may have that 'straight back' but if you stack them into a 'show' position you can make the topline slope downwards? I only bother with shepherd photos that show the dog in a natural pose or free photos, you will see the true conformation of the animal. Speak to the sportdog club down there you may be able to get recommendations. Personally, I went to Malinois for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Here are a few things you might find useful for learning about correct GSD conformation http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/04_The_Back/The_Back.html http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/12_Type_Comparison/Comparison_Types.html (all articles on that site are a good read) Please note too, that in the breed standard, it does not say the back should be horizontal http://www.ankc.org.au/Breed_Details.aspx?bid=143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Bear is lovely thanks so much for sharing. Having cats I just love the pic of him with his feline friend and it is wonderful seeing him working sheep. A GSD doing a job they were bred to do What is he like with tiny annoying dogs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateshep Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) There are a couple of working line gsd breederds in SA if you prefer a dog with a straighter back. Here's one. Brooksvale gsd I don't know them personally to be able to recommend them so you need to do the research and discuss, visit the breeder to see if they could most likely provide provide you with what you are looking for. Good Luck Edited June 5, 2011 by kateshep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Bear is lovely thanks so much for sharing. Having cats I just love the pic of him with his feline friend and it is wonderful seeing him working sheep. A GSD doing a job they were bred to do What is he like with tiny annoying dogs lol Thanks he's pretty good with everyone even annoying puppies chewing on him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 i seeing pics of Bear and Pearl when she was a baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 i seeing pics of Bear and Pearl when she was a baby That wasn't Pearl, it was Olive another one of my Seda puppies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Were you specifically after a pup? Perhaps consider a Police 'reject'? If the SA is anything like QLD, a number of fab looking higher then average (pet) drive, straight backed, often sable dogs don't quite make the grade to become a Police Dog - and so get desexed and put up for adoption. Not talking huge numbers usually (i know the list in QLD is longer then the number of available dogs) but 'perfect' homes can often be bumped up the list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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