DonnaMariee Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 I thought l did everything right when purchasing our puppy, l searched all the breeders on site and read all the profiles. I was sure that the Breeder was a legitimate, or they would not have been able to advertise pups for sale on site, but we have been receiving excuse after excuse for not receiving paperwork and its now been well over 4 months, our pup is now 7 months old and we can't insure him as a purebred without the papers, is this usual??? Its been many years since l have "purchased" an animal, but both our Burmese and Ragdoll had papers when they were picked up, we didn't need to wait for anything to be sent, now lm worried that my Puppy may in fact not be a "Pure Bred" dog and thats why we do not have the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I'm not in Victoria but my guess is to contact Dogs Victoria and explain your situation. Do you have a receipt or other record that you have transferred money to the breeder? Are you the registered owner with your local council? Had the microchip details transferred to your name and address? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) I've never used pet insurance because it didn't cover regular vet care, and my breed is generally healthy until advanced age, when they wouldn't be covered. Australian consumer magazine Choice didn't recommend any pet insurance schemes. They might have even won a "Shonky Award" one year. You may do better to put an amount of money aside for emergencies. I've learned they charge higher premiums for certain breeds. Edited October 18 by Mairead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Chase up Dogs Victoria. This is not good enough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guil Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Forge em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Informed Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 On 17/10/2025 at 10:09 AM, DonnaMariee said: I thought l did everything right when purchasing our puppy, l searched all the breeders on site and read all the profiles. I was sure that the Breeder was a legitimate, or they would not have been able to advertise pups for sale on site, but we have been receiving excuse after excuse for not receiving paperwork and its now been well over 4 months, our pup is now 7 months old and we can't insure him as a purebred without the papers, is this usual??? Its been many years since l have "purchased" an animal, but both our Burmese and Ragdoll had papers when they were picked up, we didn't need to wait for anything to be sent, now lm worried that my Puppy may in fact not be a "Pure Bred" dog and thats why we do not have the papers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Informed Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Whichever site you found the breeder on is your first point of call. If Dogzonline or Dogs Vic or whoever have this breeder listed, and they are not legitimate,then you need a please explain from that body. Name the breeder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Depends what site your referring to & which registered org. I never have had to prove with papers my breed was purebred to insure . I insure for the first 15 months to cover any what ifs & then cancel. You need to phone the registry the pup is with . Depending on what excuses they are as you havent mentioned any it could very well be legit reasons. Waiting for DNA results to return from provider is one of the biggest dramas in slowing down rego,even the State bodies can be slow . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaRott Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 My Rotti pups never came with their papers straight off they always arrived later, Dogs Victoria were always slow (I understand the process is now much faster with online registrations) but while researching some past litters for the Rotti club, it seems some breeders do wait an awful long time to register. That could be due to reasons such as waiting to get them registered directly to the puppy buyers names or simply coming up with paperwork that went missing. I always recommend contacting your state breed club for breeders as they all have their own rules and health tests specific to breed that go beyond the state canine bodies rules. First step would be to contact your state canine body (Dogs Victoria etc), assuming they are ANKC, and not one of the other mickey mouse registries. But I never had to prove purebred for insurance. I'm with Bow Wow Meow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaRott Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Oh, I'd also contact your state breed club (you didn't mention breed) if the breeder is a member they will assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 On 21/10/2025 at 3:11 AM, LunaRott said: Oh, I'd also contact your state breed club (you didn't mention breed) if the breeder is a member they will assist. Breed clubs cant assist . The only people that can assist is the office that the dog is registered with 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 On 20/10/2025 at 8:36 PM, Dogsfevr said: Depends what site your referring to & which registered org. I never have had to prove with papers my breed was purebred to insure . I insure for the first 15 months to cover any what ifs & then cancel. You need to phone the registry the pup is with . Depending on what excuses they are as you havent mentioned any it could very well be legit reasons. Waiting for DNA results to return from provider is one of the biggest dramas in slowing down rego,even the State bodies can be slow . True insurance far as I've seen insured any puppy have never asked to see registration certificate. As for being late arriving Any number of reasons, computer glitches, late deciding on puppy names, the most frustrating of all . . . Certificates arrive, put in "safe place" n can't remember where Guarantee after u give up and get replacement ones, the missing magically turn up . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) On 22/10/2025 at 5:03 PM, Dogsfevr said: Breed clubs cant assist . The only people that can assist is the office that the dog is registered with The ANKC of the state your pup was bred (ie if in Victoria, Dogs VIC, in NSW Dogs NSW, in Qld, Dogs QLD and so on). will contact the breeder to get a wriggle on and send your registration certificate Edited October 24 by asal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaMariee Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago On 18/10/2025 at 5:34 AM, Mairead said: I'm not in Victoria but my guess is to contact Dogs Victoria and explain your situation. Do you have a receipt or other record that you have transferred money to the breeder? Are you the registered owner with your local council? Had the microchip details transferred to your name and address? Yes l have proof of payment, name, DOB and address of Breeder, what we dont have is any further information, we got a pic with vaccination detail. Ive got text back from Breeder saying that parents had to be DNA tested so they could be lodged with ANKC, my understanding is in order to "sell" purebred puppies on this site this should have already been done, how can they pups be registered if the parents are not???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaMariee Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago On 24/10/2025 at 6:42 PM, asal said: True insurance far as I've seen insured any puppy have never asked to see registration certificate. As for being late arriving Any number of reasons, computer glitches, late deciding on puppy names, the most frustrating of all . . . Certificates arrive, put in "safe place" n can't remember where Guarantee after u give up and get replacement ones, the missing magically turn up . . . Thank you, we have waited nearly 6months for paperwork to arrive, when l brought my Labrador, his papers were with him when he was picked up, and so were my Ragdolls papers, after taking so long l was starting to get worried, l may have supported a "Puppy Farm" and that would be the worst nightmare for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaMariee Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago On 22/10/2025 at 5:03 PM, Dogsfevr said: Breed clubs cant assist . The only people that can assist is the office that the dog is registered with Thats the problem we dont think the parents are registered going by what we have been told in text message, therefore l dont know how they have been able to "sell" purebred pups on this site when they actually are not even registered???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaMariee Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago On 21/10/2025 at 6:09 AM, LunaRott said: My Rotti pups never came with their papers straight off they always arrived later, Dogs Victoria were always slow (I understand the process is now much faster with online registrations) but while researching some past litters for the Rotti club, it seems some breeders do wait an awful long time to register. That could be due to reasons such as waiting to get them registered directly to the puppy buyers names or simply coming up with paperwork that went missing. I always recommend contacting your state breed club for breeders as they all have their own rules and health tests specific to breed that go beyond the state canine bodies rules. First step would be to contact your state canine body (Dogs Victoria etc), assuming they are ANKC, and not one of the other mickey mouse registries. But I never had to prove purebred for insurance. I'm with Bow Wow Meow. apparently this breed of dog have pre-existing issues that Insurance will not cover, if the mother and father show "pre existing" health issues then Insurer is well within their right to deny payment, we were told that in order to insure our Labrador against hip dysplasia, we had to have "hip scores" of parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, DonnaMariee said: Yes l have proof of payment, name, DOB and address of Breeder, what we dont have is any further information, we got a pic with vaccination detail. Ive got text back from Breeder saying that parents had to be DNA tested so they could be lodged with ANKC, my understanding is in order to "sell" purebred puppies on this site this should have already been done, how can they pups be registered if the parents are not???? Just a pic of the vaccination? Major red flags Every puppy should have it's own certificate come with it and microchip paperwork The parents or the puppies to be dna'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) If your pup is from a dual sired litter, pups would need to be DNA tested for pedigree/registration. So parents would of course need to be profiled too? What did Dogs Victoria say? They should know if breeder is registered with them. Edited 1 hour ago by Mairead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaMariee Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago On 20/10/2025 at 8:06 PM, Informed said: Whichever site you found the breeder on is your first point of call. If Dogzonline or Dogs Vic or whoever have this breeder listed, and they are not legitimate,then you need a please explain from that body. Name the breeder. Thank you, l didnt want to "shame" anyone, but if l dont get the Registration papers in the next week as promised l will be naming the Breeder not only on this site but everywhere l can, l will not support "Puppy Farming" under any circumstances, l am a Foster Carer for many Rescues and have 3 already, l brought a pure bred pup so that we could ensure that we were not contributing to Puppy Farming, we wanted a Bull Terrier as we had one many years ago and they dont come up very often in Rescue, we have a BullMastiffxWolfhoundxDane who has just cost us $18K for cruciate ligaments and other health ailments, we need a dog that he can play with but at the same time not do any further damage with rough play like he does with our BullArab, we also have a Rescue Jack Russell. I have had 4 Labs all with cruciates and all costing in excess of $10K and all Rescues, people dont want them when they find out how much its going to cost to repair and rehabilitate. This is the reason we wanted to make sure the Bully was healthy and that the Breeder was not contributing to an already overwhelmed system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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