Steve

Dogs are not humans and their reproductive systems and needs are different to other species. Before we as breeders or anyone responsible for regulations or laws in regard to breeding dogs makes any decision we need to take the science of the species into account. We have allowed animal rights groups and people with little or no experience in breeding dogs to determine how these animals should be managed but worse to sway our assumptions and education.You hear it said often enough and see it in laws and regulations and assume its the best thing for the dogs without considering the need of doing our own research or taking into account experience and knowledge of people who have had the opportunity to breed dogs without these regulations on their back. Bitches secrete the same hormones with the exception of relaxin which wack into their uterus whether they are pregnant or not - their bodies think they are pregnant even when they are not - there is no science to back up the idea that it is better for a bitch not to be mated until a certain age or to limit how often she is mated. This is all about restricting the numbers bred not about what is best for the bitch and when we put regulations on about how often,how many litters etc it means we cant allow a bitch who is thriving on motherhood and making beautiful healthy babies to be utilised as well as she may be - what she brings to the gene pool as far as fertility, good health , good immunity , mothering and her ability to reproduce,with hips and joints strong enough and well enough to hold the weight of the stud dog as they mate etc is limited when it doesn't need to be based on the science of canine husbandry. The very qualities a good brood bitch used to ensure survival of her species or her breed is now restricted and more and more we need human interference to do what used to be natural. Ordinarily Id advise breeders to get educated, know the facts and the for and against and make the decisions based on what you believe is best for your dogs but in some states you cant make these decisions because they have been taken out of your hands. From some of the references - Donnay and his associates showed that there is a relationship between thenumber of pseudopregnancies a bitch goes through and the development of mammarycancer Verstegen and Onclin (2006) have also studiedcanine mammary cancer and found thata large number of bitches presented for mammary tumours also showpseudopregnancy, that a large percentage of these females had had frequent pseudopregnancies and that the bitches with recurring pseudopregnancy at eachcycle tended to develop mammary tumours significantly earlier than otheranimals. Bitches which are not bred each season are likely to become pseudopregnant andpseudopregnancy increases the risk of cancer. Pregnancyprotects against life threatening uterine diseases. The most common uterinedisease in the bitch is cystic endometrial hyperplasia. It is linked to severalserious uterine diseases including the potentially life threatening disease“pyometra” (literally – a uterus full of pus) which affects nearly one quarterof dogs under 10 years old which are not desexed According to canine reproduction specialist DrS. Romagnoli “bitches whelping regularly throughout their reproductive lifealmost never develop pyometra, while those who whelp rarely or never in their liveshave a greater chance of developing this condition” Textbookof Veterinary Internal Medicine WB Saunders, notesthat uterine diseases are less common in kennels where bitches are bred andconceive regularly indicating that pregnancy has a protective effect on the liningof the uterus or “endometrium”

Its always 100% right too, cheaper than a prog test and more convenient and more reliable.

Based on history in Queensland Id be surprised if this dog didn't face death.

Look the argument is way too intoolectual for me. All I know is I want to be able to walk in the street and stop and speak to someone without fear of being attacked because a dog thought I was attacking its owner- if that what it was thinking -and how could anyone know what it was thinking anyway? The dog should have been restrained especially if the owner already knew that's what it was capable of. The poor dog got a raw deal when he got stuck with such a schmuck for an owner.

Yep me too.

Feed em some raw chicken wings - this gives them a quick hit of an amino acid - arginine and makes the blood vessels do what you want them to do to the boy and stand back give em 10 mins and if she is ready they will tie.If not do the same thing the next day. The worst thing you can do is interfere. If you want a good indication of about when- breathe in through your nose and flare your nostrils- feel the bulb of your nose when it is flared . Then pinch your top lip and notice the difference. When she is not ready her vulva will feel like your nose when she is about good to stand it will feel like your top lip.

Couple of things - when ever you see anything with the skin its about the immune system but you need a diagnosis a sound diagnosis .That area around the tail is notorious as one of the first places anything shows as its warm but not necessarily moist. You expect to see fungal in other areas first .Fleas love this spot but now you have it from the tail to the nose you need skin scrapings to look for parasites - fleas , or mites and you need to address the secondary thing thats going on. When the vet is able to tell what it is then we can help you to treat it from the outside as well as the inside but handle with care until you can put a name to it as moving from tail to nose implies it can spread and it can also spread to the environment and maybe you.

1.J.P. Verstegen III and K. Onclin. Prolactin and Anti-Prolactinic Agents in thePathophysiology and Treatment of Mammary Tumors in the Dog. NAVC Proceedings2006, North American Veterinary Conference (Eds). 2.Canine Pseudopregnancy: A Review (Last Updated: 23-Aug-2001) C.Gobello1, P. W. Concannon2 and J. Verstegen III3, Recent Advances in SmallAnimal Reproduction, Concannon P.W., England G., Verstegen III J. and Linde-ForsbergC. (Eds.) 3.Donnay I, Rauis J & Verstegen J – Influence des antécédents hormonaux surl'apparition clinique des tumeurs mammaires chez la chienne. Etudeépidémiologique. Ann. Med. Vet. 1994, 138, 109-117 4.Simón Martí Angulo Clinical aspects of uterine disease in the bitch and queen.Proceeding of the Southern European Veterinary Conference Oct. 2-4, 2009. 5.S.Romagnoli, How I Treat… Pyometra. Proceeding of the SEVC Southern EuropeanVeterinary Conference Oct. 17-19, 2008 – Barcelona, Spain 6.Davidson AP, Feldman EC. Ovarian and estrous cycle abnormalities. In: 7.EttingerSW, Feldman EC (eds) Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine. WBSaunders, 2004 8.Johnson CA. Cystic endometrial hyperplasia, pyometra, and infertility. In: EttingerSW, Feldman EC (eds). Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine WBSaunders, 1992, pp. 954 9. Helio Autran de Morais, DVM, PhD, ACVIM, RESPIRATORYDISEASES IN OLD DOGS Proceedings of the 34th World Small Animal Veterinary Congress WSAVA 2009 São Paulo, Brazil – 2009 10. S. Romagnoli, Infertility in the Bitch, Proceeding of theSEVC, Oct. 17-19, 2008 – Barcelona, Spain Southern European VeterinaryConference

Did the vet take a skin scraping?

raw chicken minced frames is best but if its a worry about replacing calcium you can add crushed egg shell - Ill dig out the ratios of shell to meat later today. If its teeth then the antler is good.

This wasn't on the owners property - you cant justify having a dog capable of that off leash and able to make a decision [ crap] on what IT feels is a threat or provacation to its owner. The owner should have had it restrained and is responsible now for the dog being punished because of his lack of responsibility. We cant all just walk around the street with unrestrained dogs allowing them to decide if we are under threat or not .

What are the conditions the dogs from shelters will go into pet shops? What are the requirements when selling them etc ? If they are going to stay in pet shops for extended periods until they are sold or sold without educating the potential owners or screening the owners there's no great stuff there. If dogs shouldnt be sold in pet shops then no dogs should be sold in pet shops and individuals can go to shelters to get their dogs just as well as they can go to a pet shop and just as well as individuals can go to a breeder .Id like a definition on commercial breeding or is it just allowing people to breed like mad as long as they dont sell to pet shops in that state?

Id like to see the fine print before I give it a tick.

It is quite clear to me from the article: that the owner had a number of obligations and responsibilities. Many people go to hospitial after a dog bite. In this instance the owner has failed the dog and that is the tragedy. Agreed - Sorry I cant see how the dog is defending its owner when its owner isn't under attack - fact is the dog could have jumped out the window and attacked anyone who had a conversation with the owner if this is the case. No way is this O.K. in our society and I would say the same regardless of breed or size.

I dont think you have anything to worry about .There are always pups and girls in heat here and Ive never had an issue except sometimes the girl on heat can be less tolerant. Ive never heard of a pup bringing on a false pregnancy and would challenge that if a bitch did have a false pregnancy that a pup who happened to play with her when she was on heat that was the cause.

All of my dogs get milk - because I have it laid on for free with a milking cow and a milking goat . Because they have always had it they still make lactase and so have no reaction other than telling me they love me for letting them drink it.

Unlikely this is a testosterone issue.

If in fact you can advertise a group which is already born that is against what others have been told and what the FAQ attached on the DPI website seems to say. So clearly part of the problem is the confusion and the difficulty in having it clarified.

Im happy for you to harass me and you are welcome to ring me too.

Don't go here and Id appreciate it if you could PM me their details so I can discreetly pull their noses.

If she isnt registered with the ANKC then the puppies CANT be registered with the ANKC . I think you mean she is registered with the QCCC and a member of the beagle Club - is that right? if she is a member of the QCCC this is an affiliate of the ANKC.

It is eliminated in their wee but it makes their kidneys and liver work super hard to eliminate it to bring it back the level its supposed to be via the plasma. It basic chemistry if your body doesnt need to produce an enzyme over time its stops being able to produce it. Edited to add Im not saying dont use it - Im saying use it sometimes as if its a medication or a temporary preventative in times of extreme stress etc. Don't just start supplementing young dogs on it because its the in thing to do

Nothing is ever black and white and everything counts. Often its stuff you didn't notice at the time or never considered important.

By the way one of the above studies recommends supplementing feeding bitches so the pups get as much as possible in their milk . This will ensure we end up with entire breeds or lines of dogs which cant do what they need to do to be healthy - make their own. Stupid.

But - a healthy dog manufactures its own vitamin C. If it isn't manufacturing its own vitamin C that means it isn't getting everything it needs to do so. Adding any vitamin or mineral one out is dangerous because everything needs everything else to work properly but this one in particular in dogs is needing more than just thinking you will give massive doses and all will be well. You may even see some improvement in the short term but it doesn't fix the problem causing it. A dog synthesizes as much vitamin C as it typically needs through its liver using trace minerals in takes in through its diet. People either never had this ability, or lost it through the ages. When vitamin C supplements are added to a dog's diet, the dog's own ability to produce vitamin C is shut down, perhaps permanently. In addition, the liver and kidney of a dog do not handle well an additional concentration of ascorbic acid. The dog's system works to rid itself of the overabundance of ascorbic acid, causing stress to the organs. A long-term excess of vitamin C can result in kidney and liver damage, which can threaten the dog's life: Ester-C - calcium ascorbate (a version of vitamin C with a calcium component that is typically easy for a body to absorb - providing 114mg of calcium per 1,000mg of asborbic acid) can be beneficial when a dog suffers an injury or has a respiratory problem. It can work as an antioxidant and anti-inflammatory too. If a dog has a deficiency in vitamin C its time to look at what is missing from its diet and why it isnt making as much vitamin C as it needs. If you are going to give it just because it is a trend without a reason just be aware that in dogs its not like it is in humans and there may be consequences. Nature has a basic rule - use it or loose it. Thats why babies can drink milk with out a problem with lactose but when they dont drink it as often any more their body doesnt manufacture lactase and they have a reaction when they drink milk as they grow older and If you add anything to the body which is supposed to produce itself the body will shut down the making of that chemical and begin to start relying on the external source. We dont know all of the chemistry which is going on in a dog's body when it manufactures its own ascorbic acid ,we dont know what other chemicals may be produced in the process either or how else it may affect the dog overall.Some of these things could be important for the dog's overall metabolism - we just dont have enough info to know this. For example if you give cortisone to fight inflammation for too long the adrenal glands will shut down - and the adrenal glands produce more than just cortisone. We do know - give a dog vitamin C supplements and it will stop making its own - for ever. We also know that when you give a dog high doses of vitamin C the dog's body becomes stressed and it treats it as a poison - works like mad to equalize it and make it a normal blood level which is excreted via the kidneys with some research showing excess doses of vitamin C cause liver and kidney damage. A dog needs about 40mg of vitamin C per day per kilo of their body weight. Feeding foods which have vitamin C wont give you anywhere near that amount each day and they come with other nutrients to help the dog metabolise it so these foods wont do any damage as the dogs body is able to cope with these usual amounts and its easy for them to keep the blood levels consistent. The problem lies in the fact that research shows giving large doses of vitamin C has a positive affect in treating injury or infection so its used as a form of preventative when in fact it should only be used as a medication - that is it helps the body to fight a temporary problem at the risk of temporary unpleasant side effects and at the possible expense of long term damage if it continues. The added problem is that you dont get to see the damage it might do over extended periods but we shouldnt be giving this stuff just because we think it might do some preventative work any more than we should swallow anitbiotics every day in case. Sol's dog needed it and it's 11 years old and it worked but its not good to assume that because it worked for this dog when it was needing it to have everyone racing out and supplementing with it to prevent it getting like sol was when the suppliments started - because its not that simple