Alyosha

Apologies if I'm repeating, I skipped to the end of the thread... But what is easily overlooked in trying to name crossbreeds is the dominant factors, like Diva pointed out. Many of the features of a dog like this are dominant general features in Canis Familiaris. A spitz/primitive look is dominant and will appear from unlikely breeds in very few generations - from memory of a study done long ago, the dropped ears of a basset were all but gone and pricked in less than four generations of crossing. And really scouring the memory banks for detail... Can't find the old book sorry! But these dominant features will appear from dogs of breeding and background that they are not expected from. If you look at places like Bali (or even outback Oz) where the resident dogs have been left to their own devices breeding-wise for multiple generations, these characteristics become more and more prominent. I would bet my right ear this cute pup doesn't have any Basenji or Akita behind it, it's more likely to be beagle or cattle dog! But still very, very cute.

Ouch! It[s the bruising and swelling that really hurts, they have more bite pressure than we realise! I hope it feels better soon! You can always come for a drive to Crookwell show tomorrow to cheer up...

Does weight play a part in it? 'Cause I had a rescue recently, and had her done with her desex surgery at a vet I don't normally use (as she had another tricky procedure done and I trusted the surgeon). She was 3.5kg and a C3 was $80. I thought that was a bit steep actually. It was not an upmarket clinic, they just happen to have an excellent surgeon. Last year when I had my 40kg+ dogs done by my usual vet they were around $50 each for a C3.

WooHoo!!! Well done to you all!! And the fantastically handsome Naca, very well deserved indeed - he's such a lovely boy.

Yep. We get Afghan all the time. Except when they're "Lassie crosses", hairy greyhounds, or "staghounds" (I really hate that colloquialism!) Boris got called a "foxy cross" regularly when he was a pup. And once when we were walking him with a little chinese crested (shorthaired powderpuff) we got asked if she was his mum! And he was more than twice her size!?

People need to have a think about the situation before jumping in with criticisms. We went to this show a couple of years back - I think it was the day that turned into Black Saturday for Victoria? It was 45+ at home. And like many people, we didn't have aircon in our house. The dogs were unhappy, as were the humans. Everywhere was awful and hot, no relief. So we decided to go. Packed dogs and kids in the car with blissful aircon - everyone happy. It was still 40 at EP, so start was delayed. Dogs and kids playing in ice water, still much happier than at home. The dogs were with us every moment, being kept comfortable with ice and cool sheets etc. Much better than at home where they would've kept on sweltering with us through the afternoon. Judging started late, every dog there was cheerful and enjoying themselves. We stayed late for general specials and our dogs were playing and generally having a ball. Not suffering, and certainly not victims of cruel owners. It's a lovely show, always well run and mindful of the time of year and weather.

Greys are sensitive and do feel pain, but I wouldn't want to go giving him lots of stuff. Especially Metacam, which many people seem to have, which can be stressful on the kidneys. After an amputation you need to keep fluids up after the resultant blood loss and don't need any further stress on kidneys. Maybe see if you can take his mind off it somehow? Is he moving at all yet? Maybe if he shifts position he'll feel better? Has he just moved into a position that's aggravating it? If he gets really distressed a vet visit could be in order, just so long as the stress of moving and travelling etc doesn't make it worse anyway. Poor boy, the first couple of days are tough, hopefully he'll bounce back soon.

Thanks guys. He has been pretty good yesterday afternoon and today at a show - and he was only naughty in the challenge run off SSM - but who wouldn't be on their first day in minor and their adult buddy in front to chase!! Showdog and Turkish I think you're both on the money, free stacking with minimum interference - of course he knows how to do it best anyway!! I'm already up front Bohunt, nose to waist. And when I say we practice lots at home I mean whenever I walk past with a treat I slip on a lead and do one stack - no long training sessions around here! No good with sighthounds, it interrupts their important snoozing sessions. And Shaar, I've tried on blocks, but he doesn't move his feet so isn't concerned! He doesn't even wobble! Cheeky bugger. But I will try a gentle press on the wither - you never know!

Will try that one Megz, there's nothing like mixing things up a little!

Thanks Cowanbree. That's how I taught my older boy. But doesn't work with this one. Push his chest or pull his tail and he goes further back - he can manage almost a perfect equilateral triangle! Even if I haul him up on a table he will stand back off his front, has done since tiny. He'll nibble bait and rock back again between nibbles. I'f I put his front feet slightly higher it will work a little, but once you bring it down gradually until nearly level back he goes again! ETA - he doesn't move his feet at all or fidget, just leans...

My pup is a leaner-backer. He is driving me nuts. Anyone have any good tips for getting dogs up on their fronts? He will lean up for bait, a little, but then rocks his weight back and forth onto his rear legs and tries to twist his head sideways to eat. If he doesn't get the bait straight away he hangs his head which is worse! Mine have all done it a little as pups, but not with such determined-ness! And he weighs about 30kg so nothing with lifting or tables will help! Practice, practice, practice has only got us so far, I'm hoping there's some small thing we can do to get past the last of the teepee stage! He will free stand when beautifully when playing etc in the yard, so he's not having a physical problem. Plus he is very happy when show training, especially moving, just a stubborn bugger. Once I try and re-arrange a leg he shifts his weight onto his hindquarter and plants it - not budging it back forward for anything!

If it comes up as an issue again, you could ask around and see if anyone else wants to purchase the extra doses off you. A long shot, but some people in areas with high bat populations use rabies vaccine to protect pets against Bat Lyssavirus. I know of some wildlife carers who care for bats who also vaccinate their dogs (as well as themselves!).

Have you thought of a Chinese Crested powderpuff?

Because they're not a regulatory body. They cannot act outside of their function. They're not copping out. People can't just create enforcement powers out of thin air. The ANKC is a co-ordinating body. Not a government empowered regulator of the public's activities. "Australian National Kennel Council has developed co-operation between the 8 Controlling Bodies and made a large contribution towards improving dog showing, breeding and other canine activities in Australia" See their website for full details of what they actually are: http://www.ankc.org.au/default.aspx If you have a read of "history" it might make things a little clearer. There isn't always someone else to blame or to take charge. Sometime we need to stand up and say - "that person is a jerk, I don't agree with what they are doing and will not participate, so I will promote others to hopefully do the same". People in our society are quick to point a finger and say "someone" should fix that. Yet we are just as likely to turn around and complain about some other infringement of our privacy or civil liberties. Police state or not? Personal responsibilty or not? There are arguments for both, it's not an easy issue.

Just like being a licensed driver doesn't necessarily make a responsible one. The ANKC are not a regulatory body and have limited ability to limit the actions of members. With all the enforcement manpower, time and money thrown at road safety there are still a multitude of idiots out there. What chance is there against the tide of idiocy that humanity creates sometimes? People need to take responsibilty for themselves and unfortunately some don't. It is just a shame when innocents like animals are caught up in it.

I hope it works out!!

What a gorgeous photo! And what a lovely puggie mum.

x2 on this. Despite not wanting to get them offside etc, they should be doing it correctly. The date on a legal document is just that, and far more serious criminal matters have been thrown out of court based on incorrect dates by investigating officials. These offences carry statutory time limits for action to be taken, dating infringements properly is crucial and should not be overlooked. Sloppy wok overlooked leads to more sloppy work, which can end up with grave results. It needs to be fixed. Perhaps a peaceful visit to the council to ask fo it to be corrected before you submit payment? Do you have your impound fees receipt that shows the right date? Otherwise you can do a stat dec regarding what date it occurred. Paying an infringment does not legally qualify as an admission of guilt, but I would be making sure it is correct before you pay up.

Oh crap Eridor! That is tough, to leave them... I hope all works out ok!! :D I know you were so looking forward to these bubs!!

Silent heats? You might need to run her with an experienced male for a breeding, as he might be the only one to know when is the right time!

Fingers crossed all goes well for you all tomorrow - it could be a bit harrowing for you being away from them!

Maybe she is just hot, and maybe that pup is also getting hot and may be letting her know more than the others? So she is trying to do something for it? Will she drink divetelact or biolac? That could cool, increase her milk and give her some extra minerals as a boost.

I think Wolf's Den do them, although they're not on their site. I'm sure I've seen them at their stall at shows, along with gazebo mats etc. Just email them and ask. http://www.thewolfsden.com.au/

Management at RSPCA ACT tell a story that the only ever dog attack upon their staff and within their shelter that required hospitalisation of the victim was from a Chi. I think tiny dogs can have their own issues, but have little doubt that they would often be issues they got from their owners or other people.

Was there anything in the environment that was concerning the dog? Could it have been a protective "get back" type of growl?