Red Fox

Classic

Awesome pics Mon, thanks for putting those up. Looks like it would have been great fun too! I'd love to have a go at being a decoy sometime - I must be mad

Thanks again, I may have a chat to them at some point. No hurry here though. My whole life would need an overhaul first before I could even consider owning one of these breeds! Will see how the next few years pan out and go from there... Lots of learning to do in the meantime anyhow

Thanks for that info Jeff So would an FCI line dog be softer than a KNPV line then? Is there a noticable difference between the two? I dont suppose that having an FCI "pedigree" would make much difference here in Australia being that they're not a recognised breed here anyway?

Good to hear he's almost back to normal again Must have been very scary for you

Do you have a pic of her Kristina? Would love to see I'm not looking for one at the moment. Lets just say it's a long term plan But I am very interested in learning more about them over the next few years

Wow, I read somewhere that they are slightly smaller and slightly calmer than a Mal - guess that proves that you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet Whats the go with crossing the Malinios and Dutch Shepherds though? I was under the impression that while they are similar they are still seperate breeds? Yet there seem to be a few Dutchies that have Malinios in their parentage They do look awesome in action though! And stunning looking dogs to boot!

Thanks for the links guys. I'll have a read now

I'm interested in learning more about the Dutch Shepherd but having trouble finding much info on them (well in English anyway lol). They dont seem to be very common here in Australia at all! Does anyone know much about them or where to find some reliable information? Thanks

My Ridgie can fit himself in a 36" crate. Though it is a little small for him I would certainly go smaller, a crate does not have to be big at all - just comfortable enough for the dog to lay down, turn around etc. I would think that a Frenchie would be lost in a 36" crate Plus the bigger the crate the more of a PITA it is to get in the car when you need to

Small donations certainly add up, $5 here and $10 there do make a difference and this is a way that everybody can help

I'd be getting a nice soft crate That way you have the option of enclosing all the doors for winter and opening them up in summer

What about donating directly into the account of the vet who does the desexing? Surely something like that could help?

Don't know what you're talking about ness :D

:D Where are you Steve?? This thread is about to fall of the page

You haven't done the wrong thing Robbi. Trying to help out is never a bad thing :D The shelter obviously needs help with desexing their animals and attention has now been brought to that fact. Doesn't make you naive or gullible in the slightest.

I wasn't aware of this I dont think that an adoption fee of $50 plus the cost if desexing is to much to ask at all. $50 is VERY cheap too. I understand that the vets are a business and can't help for free, though a slight discount couldn't hurt?? I guess it depends on the numbers though. There is a greyhound that has been at the shelter for over 2 years now

You have valid points jdavis. I don't agree with the no vaccs/no desexing. It goes without saying that if you put out an undesexed dog that you are likely to have it returned 10 fold in puppies But how can this situation be turned around? Why are the LOCAL vets not doing their bit (sorry if they are, but then why are the animals being taken to Adelaide for vet work?) How many locals still see the Moorook shelter as a dumping ground for unwanted pets? How many dogs are left tied to that gate? And how many litters thrown over the fence? Perhaps the education needs to begin HERE. Encourage owners to desex their pets, encourage those who can help to sponsor an animal for vet work. A lot of emphasis seems to be placed on adopting a pet and not enough on supporting the shelter. I wont comment on how the shelter is run - I've never been out there and dont feel that I have enough first hand knowledge to pass judgement. I do hear a lot though... Back to the OP - of course the animals need food, that is important. But there are other ways to help also

There are 2 local papers in the Riverland if anyone is interested in contacting them - The Murray Pioneer: http://www.murray-pioneer.com.au/ and the Riverland Weekly: http://www.riverlandweekly.com.au/Public/T...adListView.aspx Both do occasionally put something in about the shelter but I couldn't tell you if they are paid for or donated space. They both have letters to the editor if anyone is interested in writing in too Yep and they supply to the Riverland too so I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to get food up here Has anyone thought about putting in cash donation boxes or flyers with Lola's details on them? You can make a donation through her website: http://www.moorookanimalshelter.com/sponsorship.html Getting things back to the Riverland is no issue. There are plenty of Riverlanders who travel down to Adelaide regularly (unfortunately I'm not one of them ) The local obedience club may be able to ask any members travelling down that way if they can do a pick up on their way home too. Their contact details are listed here: http://trialozdogs.webs.com/southaust.htm Golden Riverland will also deliver to the Riverland at reasonable prices and have a depo in Regency Park. Dont know if that helps anyone? eta: From what I am aware of jdavis is correct in what she says I dont agree with it either but Moorook is the only shelter we have and they work bloody hard to do what they do here. I would rather donate money towards desexing as I believe that its very important in the long run. This can also be done through the website. Something else to consider maybe?

I have to agree with this. I have a SIL who loves my dog. BUT she really has no understanding of dog and their needs (not an issue really as she doesn't have or want one). Now recently I was telling her about Kei's last trip to the vet, what he had done, what it cost etc. Her comment to me was 'Well he was an expensive dog, you wouldn't want anything to happen to him' (which translates to - If he was a mutt from the pound it wouldn't matter so much). To me the initial purchase price of a dog is nothing compared to what it will cost you to care for the dog over it's lifetime so really quite irrelevant. I'm not protecting an 'investment' I'm doing what I have to to care for a family member. But not all people think like this. Kind of like those who have kids for the baby bonus without considering the fact that a child will cost a LOT more over it's lifetime to raise and care for than the lump of cash that the government is handing out I'd have no problems with paying for an older puppy/young dog from a breeder who has been well cared for and socialised but not working out in that particular situation. Or paying a reduced price for an older retired dog. However - I disagree with pet owners who buy a dog, decide they dont want it anymore and then try and sell it off to regain some of the money they spent. In that case it's just wrong.

Thanks for your efort in looking but I can't open this link-sorry. Never mind about the leash in the marketplace Sue. It was mine - we have already spoken about it and decided that it would not suit Hope you can find something too as I know it will be going to a very deserving owner

Yes, that's true on the breeding/show side of things. BUT in the laws eye's isn't the microchip the be all and end all? I'm sure there has been a thread here about it before.... If the partner will willingly sign over the dog that WILL make things much easier though

Kei likes to switch between the couch and the sun too. Or if it's hot he moves right under the fan You can get the Pig In Mud doors that slip into the sliding door frames. You can have a dog door put into the glass but they aren't cheap, especially for a big dog sized door. What about putting a door on the garage for her? I'd pester your OH for the lattice. It's really cheap and easy to bolt on (my OH is useless with handyman work and he managed to do ours in a few hours). You can paint it or grow a creeper up along it too so it doesn't have to look ugly either Our next door neighbours on one side are also higher up than us, so when they sold and the house was bought by an investor as a rental property we decided to put up the lattice. The new neighbours are fine but it's nice to have the extra privacy. The neighbours on the other side of us are real whingers when it comes to noise. They've called the police many a time when the kids across the road from us were having parties or had the music up too loud on a night. Cops ALWAYS came out and told them to tone it down... I can't beleive that your local police wont do that! Though I do live in a small town so the local police here probably had nothing else better to do

Exactly. The dog is chipped in your name. What will happen if you leave the pup there and your partner cant pay his rent? How will he look after a dog as well? Have you spoken to your partner about this? If so is he dead set on keeping the dog? What about the breeder? They may be able to take the pup back while things get sorted. If the dog is being shown there is a lot of work to put in there too - grooming, show training, diet etc. The dog should go with whoever can provide it with the best care. If you can't agree with your partner on this then get some legal advice.

KL, Do you own your own home? What about putting some lattice up along the fence line? It's very cheap to do and you can add an extra 2-3ft (minimum) in screening height. I won't stop them bashing on the fence but it might help deter and prevent things form being so easily thrown over. If it was me then yes, I would be putting in camera's. I'd also go over and see the mother when the kids are out and explain to her what you are doing and why (tell her you have been advised to do so by the police if necessary). If nothing else the kids might think think twice about how they behave. If parties and drinking are the problem you can always call the police and report them for being loud and disorderly (presuming that they are?) especially if they are throwing things at your house! The only other option is to leave Sasha inside when you're not home (or give her a dog door?). She's half Ridgie isn't she? If she's anything like mine she'll be happy to sleep the day away on the couch Good luck with it and I hope you get it sorted out