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Hahaha that's cute mita :) Don't worry, you're allowed to love them all. SG, I just think I'm a doggie pushover. :)

I started off saying that, while I love Tibbies, I don't love the breed that they often get confused with... Pekes. But as soon as I started typing I KNEW... sneak in here one night & pop in a Peke among the Tibbies, and by morning I'd love it to pieces. I confess when a DOLer once posted a pic of her little tribe of Pekes... I kept that pic! I'm a failure at this topic. My first sentence is a lie:) :)

Yes, read your State law.... that's what the RSPCA in each state has to work under. Couldn't agree more that laws which don't permit intervention until conditions are considered ... under the law ... horrendous, need reviewing so there can be more prevention. And also address the issue of banning certain people from running breeding establishments.

From the New York Times: Last month, the corporal brought a German shepherd puppy to Dr. Bolton that he had found tied to a fence post, covered in fleas. He later adopted the dog, she said. On Instagram, amid scores of pictures of him doting on his pets, Corporal Cirillo expresses outrage at anyone who could treat an animal with cruelty. “Clearly,” one caption says of his new puppy, “he just wants to be loved.”

That's a great article, thanks for sharing it. And the second last pic says the little dog is a chihuahua X... looks more like a tibbie X. Not surprising in that part of the world.

It brought me to tears, too. That dear little son & his beloved dogs will be so bewildered & lost without him. Such a handsome, special young man.

Good point, Rosetta, not everyone is on Facebook. I'll check to see if they've put the info about Warra & Willawong fostering program on their website. If not, it'd be good to bring it to their attention.

Hi, stressmagnet, that's a wonderful offer. Just wanted to say my warmest thoughts go to you, for your treatment.

Yes, mel, at last something positive for the Brisbane pounds. Here's to a lot of Brisbane people stepping up to support the AWL Qld.

AWL Qld will now run the two Brisbane Pounds. Warra at Bracken Ridge on the northside & Willawong on the southside. They've set up a Facebook Page, Fostering Program of AWL Brisbane & are looking for volunteers. Information about their fostering is on the page. An Orientation about the fostering will be held soon at Warra. Anyone interested is invited to email the AWL (given on page) with name & phone no so details can be passed on as soon as they're organised. AWL Qld is a great organisation to volunteer with. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fostering-Program-of-AWLQ-Brisbane/1569811159905538 Please share with any Brisbane people who could be interested.

I uses these. Work wonders. My pet doors were installed by the people who custom made the security doors. And they put on thingies exactly like those, KC, so the pet doors could be clipped shut when needed. Simple & works a treat.

I agree, their full coats looked beautiful in the pics...one of the reasons I think they're likely well bred.

Don, I confess I get one of my tibbies clipped ... very similar to the way they do shih tzus. She's got a very dense undercoat that doesn't do well in summer... stripping it out can't keep up. I'm in a 'tick' area so searches are easier. The groomer is experienced & keeps her recognizably 'Tibbie'...& she is clear about the pros & cons. Our other tib has a layered coat that's fine... same with the tib next door. So no clipping for them.

Couldn't agree more.

That makes sense. See I never get this :/ We're talking about domesticated dogs recognising their own kind. There's a lot of evolutionary processes that relate to survival still dominant in us humans. A huge amount of our social behaviour, for example, as the evolutionary psychologists tell us. It'd be the same with dogs. Domestication doesn't wipe out Nature ...

That makes sense.

What a beautiful & amazing cat. I loved how you called him the Chief Cat. He sure earned the title with honour. You gave him a wonderful life and he repaid that with tireless service to all who needed him. So special. Your loss must be great. Warmest hugs coming to you.

I dont think they're related, it might have even been the first time they met, but they sure had fun. IG's and Whippets get really happy when they see dogs that look like them. Yes, same with tibbies. It's really delightful to see, isn't it! The pic is gorgeous...I hear music when I look at it! Sooo disco

You've formed a personal opinion.... without any evidence... & then turned your opinion into a generalization. The mature show dogs on the Dogzonline site are being retired to pet homes for a variety of reasons. Light years away from your comparison with rejecting 'ugly' kids. I've always had retired showdogs for pets... that I've got from registered breeders whose breeding/raising style fits the evidence of how companion dogs should best be raised & kept. Far from being failures.... they've all been Aus Champions. Their breeders believe that once they've got their championships & had one or two litters, then they deserve to be in a loving pet home for the rest of their lives. And who gives a damn, anyway, if a dog 'fails' conformation standards in a show ring. When it's other factors that are essential to a well-socialized dog. As an example, only yesterday, the original breeder of one my former showgirls, who came to Australia from Sweden, contacted me, from Sweden ... interested to know how her Annie is faring. That breeder happens to have one of the most prominent breed kennels in northern Europe.... & her dog won Best of Breed at prestigious Crufts in London. She believes that she breeds first for good temperament & health and then best match with conformation. And the end goal is that her puppies & dogs will enjoy being in pet homes the rest of their lives. I wouldn't have a clue how many dogs this breeder has... but she remembers her puppy that went to far away Australia years ago. She's twigged & lives out the best ways to keep/raise companion dogs. The proof is in the dogs she produces. Our little Swedish-Australian dog came, from the importing Australian breeder, beautifully socialised & with a glorious temperament. And she's as healthy as a small horse.

You still haven't answered my question.... in your concentration only about numbers. What is wanted in the behavioral outcomes of the dogs and puppies? And what evidence is there re the best way to achieve those outcomes? Yes.... evidence... not opinion. The same evidence, incidentally that sees both military puppies & police puppies in Qld going out to live in ordinary homes, living ordinary companion dog lives until approaching 12 months, when their serious training starts. And even when graduated, the police dogs live in-home alongside their handler & his family. If you addressed this issue.... & then looked at the factors involved in raising & keeping dogs to promote this development... you would know what a puppy farmer is by the absence of those factors. Again, you're stuck only on numbers... & now the zoning of land. None of which are the core essentials in raising & keeping dogs. The case you're arguing is about dogs working in a pastoral setting ... so set out clearly what factors are needed to get the behavioral outcomes you want.

Can only agree. The lack of the most basic knowledge is conspicuous by its absence.

And the question which continues to go begging is....'to do what with the X number of dogs?' And...'why?'. If these were car manufacturers we'd call them the Dodgy Brothers... if the engineering element of designing & making cars to do what cars are supposed to do, was totally off the menu. And we'd call them the Double Dodgy Brothers if they had no knowledge & skills in that engineering & manufacture. We'd find it ludicrous if all they could rabbit on about was number of cars. Today I saw an example of dogs socialized to be biddable & confident around humans (including strangers) and other dogs. I went to the Petbarn at Mitchelton in Brisbane because Red Collar Rescue (from Biggenden) was showcasing some of their dogs & taking expressions of interest. I owed this group since they rescued a couple of traumatized tibbies from a puppy farm... & wanted to donate bags of dry food. Well, they had some young dogs that had been rescued from the pound as unsold puppies. They'd been placed with foster-carers in situations that can only be described as homely... where companion dogs live closely interacting with their humans & sharing their lifestyle. In other words, a model environment for shaping the kind of experiences & behaviours which make companion dogs. And getting the best of physical care. Frankly, these young dogs were stunning ... first in their exceptionally healthy appearance, and second in their total ease around people & other dogs & even the movements of cars and traffic. The environment which had produced both, is remarkably the same as that provided by the registered breeders we've chosen to get our purebreds from. Studies back up the efficacy of what is actually done. Red Collar Rescue will be at the Petbarn in Osbourne Rd Mitchelton again tomorrow. We're going again...two more bags of dry food to give.

You agree with 1 full time staffer for every 25 fertile dogs.... to do what? Are these the breeding & raising stock for companion dogs? If so, do you know the studies which indicate what practices tend to produce such dogs best? You seem to approve of puppy farmers making money.... I'd be more interested in the heart of the matter ... how their 'farming' practices fall short on producing companion dogs. I'd like to see consumers take their money elsewhere to those breeders whose practices are in line with the research. And evidence is that they tend to be registered breeders.

Agree with the previous post. There was an article in The Australian about human medical research at one of our leading universities. (was either Sydney Uni or Uni of NSW). A researcher was saying that pedigree dogs are a godsend for two reasons... 1. humans & dogs share many medical conditions and 2. pedigrees allow for investigative tracking back, not only in depth of ancestry but also breadth.

In Brisbane (Rochedale South), Little Legs Dog Rescue has two bonded Tibbies for adoption, Ellie & Sam. Desexed. They sure look the full deal in their pics (click enlarge). Aged 8 & 9 years, but don't look their age (bit typical of tibs). I adopted a Tibbie at 8 years & she's still going strong nearly 7 years later. Enquiries to [email protected]