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This site has heaps My link :) No I mean the one for NARGA specifically. But thanks :) Oops :laugh: brain fart: not paying attention

This site has heaps My link :)

An expansion beyond their capacity and no internal protocols is a recipe for a defunct organisation. I wish that woman well and I think she has left out a lot of the more damaging information.

If the dog isn't chipped to the person claiming to own it, it could just as well have been stolen. Dogs are commonly impounded on this basis but in a normal impound situation you just put your name on the dog and adopt it back out after it's done it's time, no problem. Reprocessed and lawful. If the vet surgery isn't an approved location to hold animals for rangers to collect then yes I could easily see them say 'take the dog to the pound' (and RSPCA are running the pound in some towns so they impound and then assess for adoption once they own it). It's less confrontational for the surgery staff and fulfilling their duty per the CAA in a roundabout way. The other choice is to let the people keep a dog that may have someone looking for it. Or grab the dog, take it out the back and argue the point in the foyer. If they found the old owner, or gotten a stat dec and then gone to council instead it would have been a different story. If they knew this the dog would still be alive. re PTS for failing their temp test. I'm surprised any dog passes some of these tests.

Yep, registered breeders are pretty much sitting ducks. Shame really, for the good ones to get lumped in with the dodgeys and the byb's.

All said with sarcasm and a touch of bitterness! Sorry to have offended! I have a second hander myself. She's gorgeous. :) No offence taken.

Erm, I would agree Steph but rescues aren't 'often' second hand dogs with dodgy temperament and health issues. Although I see where you're going with that.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/rspcas-euthanasia-allowance-a-perverse-incentive-to-kill-claim-critics-20130930-2unfl.html An extra $14 paid to RSPCA staff on the days they euthanise animals is providing a "perverse financial incentive to kill" and may be driving up death rates, critics say. The "euthanasia allowance" is detailed in the RSPCA's enterprise agreement which says it should be paid on each day that appropriately trained and certified employees are required to euthanise animals. Lawyers for Companion Animals principal Anne Greenaway said even hardened critics of the RSPCA had been shocked by the revelation. "It's pretty weird, very weird, that for anyone who loves animals that an allowance of $14 is going to compensate for having to put an animal down, particularly when some of them are perfectly healthy," Ms Greenaway said. Other critics, including Sue Barker of Dog Rescue Newcastle, have described the allowance as "disgusting". David Kelaher, an ex-union official who exposed the allowance during online debate, says he has represented RSPCA employees in disciplinary matters in the past and that if workers could "swing it" to kill five days a week, they could add $70 per week to their take home pay. "The median wage was around $35.5K – so presuming you worked a regular 48-week year you could get a 10 per cent salary increase by continually killing," Mr Kelaher said online. The executive manager of animal care services for RSPCA NSW, Brendon Neilly, rejected the notion the allowance provided a financial reward for the euthanising of animals. "I think suggesting in any way that this is something that people seek to do for financial gain or otherwise is offensive," he said. "It is in recognition that it is a difficult job that people undertake, and that people may be paid more for performing any workplace role ... with a qualification attached to it, such as a first aid officer for when they are the nominated go-to person for that particular work." The allowance was not built into a worker's base salary because those staff members were not necessarily required to use those qualifications every day, he said. Mr Neilly was unable to say what proportion of staff were qualified "euthanasia technicians", or how often they were required to make use of those qualifications. "We do have qualified people at most facilities," he said. Heated online debate over the RSPCA's handling of strays followed a Newcastle Herald article last week about two Jack Russell terrier pups destroyed at the RSPCA's Rutherford shelter despite ongoing negotiations between the shelter and the owner to pay for their release. The Jack Russell terriers, Rocket and Nikki, were euthanised on Monday last week after being held at the shelter more than 28 days. Owner Kylie McCrea, of Sawyers Gully, was told the family pets would be held until she had a chance to contact Maitland City Council over the $960 fee but a supervisor made the decision to put the pets down over the weekend. Mr Neilly said an investigation into all of the circumstances surrounding the dogs' death was continuing, and the findings would be made public, but it appeared that it had been a genuine error.

What shits me is that they bought my number from somewhere I trusted and it would have to be dog or rescue related otherwise I'd know other people who got it. I honestly doubt it was a phone company list. This is just another classifieds site except they use the latest keywords of 'ethical' and 'welfare'. I can see no evidence of either.

Jo Righetti's resources. She has a number of e-books to download and is veterinary behaviourist. Very clever lady. :) Anxiety, Fears and Phobias

Wow, they are such unusual looking dogs. Very striking. btw LOVE the name. :D

Powerlegs - I was playing with their site and removed my own dog. xx LP xx Ah :laugh: sorry. xx

I noticed they removed your dog LP. Didn't think you'd voluntarily chosen to be listed.

I just don't know how they got my number, it's nowhere on the internet. Is it possible numbers were sold on a pet or rescue related list? It doesn't have to be on the net. You've filled out something somewhere and included your mobile. Yep, I meant that being on a list would be the scenario (because there's no other way) and that makes it more annoying. :laugh: I don't know why but that really irks me.

I just don't know how they got my number, it's nowhere on the internet. Is it possible numbers were sold on a pet or rescue related list?

Fangks Anne :) Done!

A whois search didn't reveal a name I recognise. And I can't reply to the message because it hasn't got a number so I might have to email to unsubscribe but would prefer not to go on a mailing list. Is anyone familiar with this service site? http://seekpets.com.au/ As of the 1st of August they are able to use your mobile as they have for land lines - telemarketing etc . You can block it but charities have an exemption and can harass the hell out of you anyway. Blast. Is there still the Do Not Call list that will stop my mobile being used for stuff like this?

I don't know where they got my number it's not on the internet. A whois search didn't reveal a name I recognise. And I can't reply to the message because it hasn't got a number so I might have to email to unsubscribe but would prefer not to go on a mailing list. Is anyone familiar with this service site?

There may be a long list but people do drop in and out of rescue for various reasons, you also have to remember that there is quite a few one-man-band rescues that operate on a small scale because they really don't want to expand to having carers. Which is fine. You also see cat rescuers slow down because last year's kittens are still waiting before they can take more. Then you get the ones who close their doors because of one too many foster failures. :laugh: Point being no matter how many groups, there is still a finite number of spaces considering people could just as well foster for someone else. re surrenders: We've had a few rural surrenders because the owners either couldn't afford the surrender fee and/or the local commonly 'known' group have said they would PTS an older dog. (one adopted dog's original rescue wouldn't take back the dog anyway) Leaving owners with the only alternative being the pound drop-off pens and in that case, if we can help the dog without having to go through the stress of impoundment then it's worked out well for everyone. Fortunately these owners have kept trying and the referral has come from their vets or friends rather than the petrescue directory. And really, I'm not sure that people look at how many there are because I often meet folks with adopted pets and when asked they say they rescued a dog from PetRescue.

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Wollondilly must be allergic to my computer. All I can get is this ... then won't open to get pic: Display # 1. Animals For Sale, Lost & Found as at 23 September 2013 [Animals & Pets - Wollondilly] ... Kennel: K3 Breeed: Tibetan Spaniel X Sex: Female Age: Unknown Microchipped: No This dog is still looking for it's owner. If you own or know the owner of ... Can you see this Mita? :) and the other photo

Tibby in Wollondilly :)

Shelter Manager is free to download, it's kind of clunky to use at first and unless you have some kind of intranet only one person holds the information but it's useful and you can also generate letters, excel data and reminders. :)

Does anyone kind of feel bad for the author of this letter? She is very angry and hurt. You do see some disgusting, mindboggling, tragic things in rescue, it upsets me but personally I refuse to carry the baggage that comes along with hating former owners. Good bad or indifferent pet owners. They are in the past. And some are even unable to manage their own welfare let alone their dog's.

The notes should follow the photo, including due dates, impound number, impound description and pound contact details etc. I'm not sure about why people use them on pet rescue unless they haven't actually met the dog or haven't had time to write their own yet. For example the dog could have gone to boarding or the rescue is still waiting for an update from the carer. One old trick was list a dog on pet rescue with the temp notes (which are not meant in most cases to be a reliable adoption assessment, they're more like notes for rescuers) and get a taker for the dog before you pick it up from the pound. Not sure if people do that anymore, but it's a risk. You may notice some temp testers put a disclaimer to their work for this reason. So as much as temp testers have to be relied upon, and accurate notes are valuable, it's assumed that rescuers assess the dog themselves once it's in care and has settled a bit.