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here 'tis Nic :) Inquiry lifts lid on NSW greyhound deaths 3:30pm November 15, 2013 The boss of greyhound racing in NSW says animal welfare in the industry should improve, revealing about 3000 unwanted dogs are euthanised each year. NSW Greyhound Racing chief executive Brent Hogan on Friday fronted a parliamentary committee looking into claims greyhounds are given performance-enhancing drugs and are killed in their thousands every year. The inquiry, at Penrith in western Sydney, was also charged with examining the financial relationship between Greyhound Racing NSW and the TAB. Giving evidence, Mr Hogan conceded about 3000 dogs were euthanised each year in NSW. He said about 8000 dogs were whelped each year in NSW, but only 70 per cent made it to the racetrack. Asked by Greens MP John Kaye what happened to the other 30 per cent, Mr Hogan said "there are a variety of pathways that many could follow". Some dogs left the state, while others found homes as pets. A submission to the inquiry from a group called Greyhound Rescue says the drowning of unwanted greyhound puppies is common. The group says it rarely receives pups, and few are surrendered to pounds. Pressed by Mr Kaye, Mr Hogan said 52 greyhounds were adopted as pets in 2012 through a NSW Greyhound Racing initiative. He rejected the claim doping was widespread. "We have zero tolerance for participants who do not meet our animal welfare standards," he said. In its submission, Greyhound Rescue says the euthanasia rate is "horrifying". "Veterinary nurses are horrified by the high euthanasia rate of their clinics," the group's submission states. It says dogs that arrive at pounds are often in very poor health, and need emergency surgery. A dog had been blinded in one eye after its trainer hit it in the eye with a belt buckle, and females were often in poor health due to overbreeding, it says. The Animal Welfare League has urged the government to set up two independent committees to monitor welfare standards. It called for less litters bred each year to help reduce euthanasia rates. Earlier on Friday, the inquiry was told many NSW greyhound tracks under financial pressures could be forced to close within a decade. Mr Hogan called on the government to help the industry get a bigger slice of TAB wagering revenue split between three racing codes. He said the greyhound industry was effectively subsidising harness and thoroughbred racing by about $15 million a year. The inquiry will resume in February.

Cool, I'll sort it asap. Will send you an email (again sorry). You're right about the pill cutters :laugh:

I'm still a fan of having some personal space and having my own home for me and mine, not as a viewing arena for potential adopters. Rescue runs my daily life enough as it is and I'm OK with keeping this space for family, friends and a long suffering hubby. I understand that not everyone chooses to work that way which is alright. You have to do what works for you. Though I have had people here incl other rescuers, there's nothing interesting. My post above was aimed directly at a person who is one of those nutter rescuers I wouldn't wish on anyone. I say to her now: You are a hypocrite, I know what you're doing, it's not clever and it's getting boring. ;-) Go away.

I might have to ask Mr Powerlegs to pick them up while he's at work in the city. I still need them, my old girl has gone up a dose. And silly as it sounds, I'm now wasting more tablets trying to cut those bloody chalky tablets down to quarters. :laugh:

And yet again Try it again, go on. You'll get a thread of your very own....oh that's right you've already had one deleted because it was too close to naming you. :laugh: You're a sick sad woman, a bully and a liar. Stop wasting my time.

My apologies to Anne with a mountain of stuff to do I didn't get to pick up the epilepsy meds. Sorry. xxx

There is no legal guidelines in rescue itself. No governing body and only the Companion Animal Act or POCTAA guidelines to follow. Home drafted contracts can be disputed. However to my limited knowledge a buyer of any item (and animals are considered 'property') has a right to get what they pay for and if known defects haven't been noted on paper they have more rights than the rescue aka seller, who has sold a faulty product without black & white disclosure. (ACL reference brochure) The rescue did the right thing if they took the dog back and refunded the money. That's all they can do. There's no guarantee of perfection in any living animal, it's just that known issues should be made clear and complaining about it after the rescue has settled the matter is pretty rough in my opinion. Now you have only one side of the story not both. Steve may be able to clarify. And a second opinion by another vet would be useful before re-listing the dog.

Glad the puppy trashed his house! He'll probably get less punishment than that for the actual theft.

You will find an awesome home for a 9yr old poodle and I guarantee there will be no waffling or complaining about the fee. :) If you choose to respond just be brief and polite, keep it professional like Ams and Aphra's responses. Sometimes people just don't understand what you're looking for and sometimes they aren't sure what they want either. And sometimes you get a very cranky reply, that's when you hit delete.

Pepe I think they mean, forensic proof a that only that dog was involved. Grim, but better that it's done to rule out other scenarios.

The article says she got it "from a pound". sounds like she called it "a rescue" but it was not actually from a reputable rescue... The boarding kennel mentioned in one article is linking back to a dog rescue. Seems like it is running on the same kenneling premises: operating firstly as the contract to impound for Leicester after which the animals are rehomed by the rescue if unclaimed. Website is down. Won't post it here, although local people posting on forums seemed to have worked it out or knew of the place. Dog was impounded in August as a stray.

Not sure if it's been suggested but PetRescue will put him on their FB page. It's a pity there's been no newspaper ads this year, that's always helped my long termers find awesome homes. I don't understand why some dogs get looked over when you know they are so lovely and would be perfect for someone.

Which pounds have blanket bans on large breeds with children? I've never heard of that. I don't know anyone who has been turned away if the dog they are looking at is suitable per the evaluation of the staff. Rescues yes they have their individual policies, and that's their right. That's my right for my dogs.

haha I did, and Google always has a lot of answers! Thanks for the info @Powerlegs ! :D You'll be OK, it just looks like a nice fresh wound. Good stitches, a little bruise, antibiotics and painkillers ready. Keep her quiet and stop freaking yourself out. She'll only be wondering why you're stressed. Trying to scratch is normal, and a little blood developing on the suture line will happen as the scab forms which does tickle and itch. She'll be OK and you'll OK. xAnna

:D reading done and as usual he's done himself no favours But eewwww twitter is hard to look at, reminds me of myspace.

You did a lovely green yard check for me once! I got there a couple of days later and they had stuffed the wheelie bin full to overflowing with wandering jew after your visit. :D

Yes, people have eaten each other as well. Right now, I can say no way would I do it, the thought makes me sick. But I have never been lost and dying of starvation. Bears are a genuine risk over there. But just like Australia and it's wilderness, you can have all the signage and warnings and survival gear available but people do make stupid decisions or have freak accidents and end up dead.

Best recent example of a yard check needed: person stated their yard had boundary fencing which was secure. Yard check revealed boundary fence was entirely broken palings and 3ft beaten-up chicken wire. I don't think they deliberately lied because they knew a yard check would be done, they just genuinely didn't think it would be an issue and weren't prepared to make any changes to fix it up. We don't force ourselves on people, the people who apply are often completely accurate in their descriptions and quite welcoming of a visit because it's part of the application process. We get there and they have tea and cake ready! :) It's part of the way we do things. (We always stress it's nothing like a landlord check!) Adopters are happy to keep in touch, I have my mobile 24/7 for emergencies, we have a lifetime return policy and are always available for questions or a chat. You do meet some lovely lovely people and many times we've been complimented on the well rounded, thorough approach to rehoming the right dog to the right home. You have to remember within ethical groups, dogs that are in foster care and the groups who own them only want the best outcome. You have to trust their decisions because conversely....it's a huge gesture of trust to give a dog you've rescued, loved and cared for, to a complete stranger.

:) You've been talking to google haven't you. Main thing to watch is keep your girl nice and quiet for the first few days. She will have internal as well as external stitches so you need to give the wound a chance to settle. Last thing you need is pulled stitches. Some dogs have a raspy cough for a day or two from the anaesthetic tube. It fades quickly. Some dogs are sookier than others, don't stress if she wimpers or has a hard time getting comfortable. After a few days, the wound may itch as it goes through the scabbing process. This is also normal. It is also normal for the wound to raise up a little before it goes down completely and flattens out. A little redness is normal. Only worry if you see more than a reasonable amount of swelling, torn skin around the stitches, angry hot skin or pus or oozing. UTI….I've never seen that connected directly to a desexing but I suppose it could happen?, incontinence….yes there is a chance but I've not had that either. Incontinent dogs have usually arrived that way, some were already desexed, some were not. They were effectively treated with medication. UTI's also respond well to antibiotics. An average for my young pound dogs would be 6 months to 2 years and there's been no issues apart from a few stitch biters. Some I have deliberately held back from adoption until I'm happy that they have matured for desexing. (skinny stick legs, poor start to life or a puny build etc)

I'm surprised he didn't get eaten himself.

What a nitwit taking on Deb Tranter :laugh: he won't win that fight.

That is horrifying poor Bella all alone. It's hard to have sympathy for the owners but I hope it makes other people think twice before casually leaving their dog sitting in the yard for days. Who was supposed to be topping up her food if she eats the lot? Who was making sure she had water? Who was checking that she was still there and not escaped or stolen or injured? FFS have some common sense. Rest in peace Bella

There is a chart somewhere on the net, I used to have it. it looked like this the paralysis tick has two different coloured sets of legs. If there's anything that makes me cringe all over it's a tick.

OMG that is not fair, he is so beautiful. Want want!!

OI! you know I love your notes Missy! I was thinking more along the lines of …well you know in particular. ;-) Lots of faff, lots of leaving out the important bits. Or just making it up from one photo, never meeting the dog at all.