boxagirl Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Is most of CCD done individually? or in a group situation? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 It's all individual, except for the group stays :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxagirl Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 good news :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 It's all individual, except for the group stays The only advice that I can give you regarding Group Stays is to make sure that your dog understands the exercise really well and is confident to stay where you leave him/her On the weekend, we watched the CCD Group stays there was a massive group break in the stays.. only two dogs stayed in the class of approx 10 ( it brought back memories of my bitch becoming nervous in stays as it happened to us several times). It also happened again in the p.m trial. good news Have fun and enjoy the experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Good advice Kallistar - solid stays is definitely something I will be proofing for a lot when we get to that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If my CCD dog wasn't on a pass there is no way I would be doing stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliteview Aussies Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If my CCD dog wasn't on a pass there is no way I would be doing stays I agree here. I was sitting on a wonderful pass one day and the dog next to me got up and growled at my golden. Has taken me over a year to get him almost steady in stays again. After that I never put him in stays if he wasn't on a pass. I didn't think it was fair to the other dogs if he broke and came running to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 In WA the judges now have the option of doing 2 lots of stays one for those on a pass and one for those that aren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 They don't here and its one of the reasons I am considering skipping CCD. Hmm wonder if its poor form to enter a trial and do the ring work and be sitting on a pass and still withdraw from stays . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 OK my question is not about stays but it is about CCD In agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off. Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? Say if you are having motivation or stress problems or something, is it possible to go out there, disqualify yourself and tell the judge, and have the judge call a small amount of heeling, and then finish? Or would that be exceedingly rude? If you told them beforehand, could you do a different exercise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 OK my question is not about stays but it is about CCDIn agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off. Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? Say if you are having motivation or stress problems or something, is it possible to go out there, disqualify yourself and tell the judge, and have the judge call a small amount of heeling, and then finish? Or would that be exceedingly rude? If you told them beforehand, could you do a different exercise? Our judges in WA would allow it. I have had a dog struggling with heelwork - so I have helped her along and then done another exercise or two and left the ring on a positive note. In WA they have now introduced Not for Competition in obedience. It costs you half a normal entry and they put you at the end of the catalogue and you can go in and have the judge call a round for you and you can do what you like (except use food or toys). There are a few people using this in novice and CCD in preparation for the Nationals which are here in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 That sounds like a good idea! I would want to do something different in the stays though. ie stay right in front of my dog. And that might upset the other dogs. Poppy would not cope at all with other dogs coming up to her. Kallistar's story actually made me feel sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs4Fun Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 OK my question is not about stays but it is about CCDIn agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off. Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? Say if you are having motivation or stress problems or something, is it possible to go out there, disqualify yourself and tell the judge, and have the judge call a small amount of heeling, and then finish? Or would that be exceedingly rude? If you told them beforehand, could you do a different exercise? It is against the rules to train in the ring. I don't think any judges would allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) OK my question is not about stays but it is about CCDIn agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off. Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? Say if you are having motivation or stress problems or something, is it possible to go out there, disqualify yourself and tell the judge, and have the judge call a small amount of heeling, and then finish? Or would that be exceedingly rude? If you told them beforehand, could you do a different exercise? It is against the rules to train in the ring. I don't think any judges would allow it. Hmm think you should move states. Where in the rule book does it say this???? as she runs off to find her little blue book....... Edited August 20, 2009 by Ptolomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 LOL think WA are just ahead in all respects Ptolomy - watch out for a mad influx of triallers - erm ok just look out for me . Maybe I know I'll plan a trialling holiday that isn't the states or the nationals and come and do NFC with Kenzie over there :p . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) In agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off.Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? I have often said that I don't understand why the VCA don't cater for this (ie similar to "hor concor" - pardon my spelling, in the horse competition world) and actually wrote to VCA about it a couple of years ago. I don't recall ever getting a response .... or perhaps I did but I think it was "passed over" to somewhere else. People still pay their entry fee but aren't up for any prizes or points. I don't understand why this is not taken up by Clubs. It is still a money spinner for them. Edited August 20, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) Question - are the clubs still required to pay the DogsWest canine levy on the NFC entries. Edited August 20, 2009 by ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piri Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 OK my question is not about stays but it is about CCDIn agility I am having an issue of Kaos running off, and what I am going to do is to disqualify myself (telling the judge beforehand) and make up a small sequence that we can do so I can end on a good note before he runs off. Is it at all possible to do a similar thing in obedience? Say if you are having motivation or stress problems or something, is it possible to go out there, disqualify yourself and tell the judge, and have the judge call a small amount of heeling, and then finish? Or would that be exceedingly rude? If you told them beforehand, could you do a different exercise? Im pretty sure once you fail , you can pick one exercise to do after that and thats it,so for eg if you failed the heeling ,you could than choose to do a recall or stand for exam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 If my CCD dog wasn't on a pass there is no way I would be doing stays I agree here. I was sitting on a wonderful pass one day and the dog next to me got up and growled at my golden. Has taken me over a year to get him almost steady in stays again. After that I never put him in stays if he wasn't on a pass. I didn't think it was fair to the other dogs if he broke and came running to me. I agree with you both. It takes alot to get your dog back doing stays comfortably after a bad experience. Unfortunally not every one thinks to do this. Stays can be my worst nightmare, as you never know if the other dogs are ok. And lately I have seen way too many dogs breaking their stays in CCD and CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kallistar Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 In WA the judges now have the option of doing 2 lots of stays one for those on a pass and one for those that aren't So what happens if only 1 dog is on a pass in that class? Does the judge who chooses this optiion ask for a couple of stand ins'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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