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How do you respond when an off-lead dog is aggressive with your dog? How would you protect your dog?

I went to the dog park this evening with my dad, taking our two dogs. It is a really quiet park where we normally only encounter a couple of dogs at most strolling past us. When we parked in our usual spot, my dad and I saw a man who was there smoking and having a beer with his two dogs (a border collie & Korean Jindo). While were in the car my dog Tilly (Kelpie X) started getting excited when she saw this guy's border collie running around, because BC's are one of Tilly's favourite types of dogs to run around with. My dad suggested putting Tilly on the lead until we walked through to the next section of the park, away from these two other dogs.

When we got out of the car, both dogs approached Tilly. The BC seemed friendly, but the Jindo went for Tilly aggressively straight away. My dad was holding Tilly's lead and straight away on approaching Tilly, the Jindo put its front paws around Tilly and attacked her. While pulling Tilly away my dad gave the Jindo one kick to the side and it got off Tilly. The owner just stood there in the distance and did nothing, he didn't even try to call his dog away and he didn't leash his dog either...my dad called out "it was your dog, mate", and still this man did nothing to try to keep his dog away from ours. It was a very strong looking dog, much bigger than Tilly.

I wanted to leave the park because I didn't want that dog to go for Tilly again, but my dad was gutsier than me and suggested that we walk through to the next section keeping our dogs on the lead (which is out of view and a good distance from where this dog was). The Jindo tried to follow us and its owner was just there in the distance staring and doing nothing, my dad firmly told the dog where to go, and fortunately it did. It was so frustrating that the owner did nothing though, had he even attempted to call his dog away then I would have respected that he at least tried to control his dog, but he did zilch! :laugh:

It was really lucky that my dad was there and that Tilly was on the lead, because there is no way that I would have been able to physically get this dog off Tilly, and the useless owner would have been no help as he didn't even attempt to control his dog.

So back to my original question, how do you respond when an off-lead dog is aggressive with your dog? How would you protect your dog?

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Not long ago I had my GSD pup at an off-leash area. I had him on a lead while we tried out some agility equipment. There was another 2 dogs in the park but they were up the other end. After about 10 minutes one of the dogs came running towards us. Initally the dog appeared friendly and both dogs sniffed each other. Then suddenly the other dog growled and tried to nip my boy. I immediately stepped between them and shoo'ed the other dog away. As its owner was coming towards us and calling the dog ... it headed towards her. Then he turned and came back towards us so I used by foot to push the dog away. The owner made the comment of "what do you expect with your dog onleash" ... as if it was our fault that her dog tried to attack mine...

This is a good article to read on how to break up a dog attack without getting hurt.

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I know I've said this before but after having a little dog killed in a dog attack 10 years ago, I now carry a broom handle that I cut down and have had to use it a few times when I lived in melb suburbs, one stupid bloke that had a german shepherd ran up to my Lady when I hadn't had her long after my previous little girl was killed so I was still very very nervous, well I picked Lady up and told bloke to get his so and so dog to which the response was he just wants the stick. So I gave him the stick alright right across the nose not hard but hard enough to make him back off as he was growling and clearly wasn't interested in the "stick", Well owner abused me and said he was gonna lay charges so I told him I'd report him for not having his dog under control and perhaps It would of been better to of belted him rather than his dog as it may of knocked some sense into him, his mate that was with him burst out laughing, so that's what I do I carry a big stick, though sometimes I wish I had one of those cattle prod zappers they'd be really good especially on some owners also :(

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What's a Korean Jindo, and what does it look like please?

The dog that attacked Tilly looked just like the dog on the left, except this dog was heavier and more solid looking.

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There's not alot you can do except try and protect your dog.

Call the Ranger and report it regardless of if you think you have enough details.

What would the ranger do, given that I don't have much info? Would they just log the complaint?

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I'd pick my dog up if I had time (because I can). If not possible I would:

1. Drop my dogs lead. A dog on a lead will be hampered in its ability to fight or flee.

2. Kick the crap out of the attacking dog. I'm happy to lose a leg to a dog defending mine but not a hand.

3. Scream like a banshee for help.

If the dog is reallly really serious, you may have trouble getting it off but a few boots in the ribs will deter most dogs.

I don't think there are any Jindo's in Oz Fainty Girl. I'd definitely report the incident though.

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I would stand inbetween by dog and the other and start yelling at it "to get outta here"....ive done it multiple times! I usually dont walk by myself, my partner is usually with me so it makes it easier!

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I have stood in front of my own dogs and roared at the attacking dog, got its attention long enough to get my dog out of the way and kick the attacker.

Yes there was a good chance I was going to get bitten but I didn't think about it at the time.

Also I agree with PF I don't think there are Jindo's here, are you sure it was one? Because it sounds like you had a run in with an Akita :(

But you must report this, the guy sounds like a total wan*%er

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Don't know if these work and it is things I have heard. Never been in a situation where I have had to try anything, so hope this might give you some ideas and would be interested if they are what you can do if.

If another dog is attacking and you cant just remove your dog from the situation.

Water pistol to the face of other dog

Throw a rock or dirt / sand

Grab back legs and yank back other dog off

Kick to side of attacking dog

I would say these are all last resort and I guess we would do anything to protect our animals anyway. (Would say always chance for dog to turn on to us with these methods)

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I just had a call from an elderly lady who adopted an old shihtzu x from me 2 years ago. Poor little thing and the owner were walking along last night when a man with a dog on an extender lead came close. His dog suddenly attacked little Matilda and the lady fell in the gutter trying to help her. She is 3 kilos and has sustained fractures and is facing euthanasia this morning.

I'm taking a day off work to take the lady and Matilda to my vet. The initial bill at the specialist after hours vet last night was $1,000 and to operate will be another $3,000.

Lady happy to pay but I have told her the other owner must pay - he took off of course but I'm also taking her to the Council this morning to report the attack.

I am very nervous walking my dogs as they've been attacked before, it's hard to know what to do but personally I would try and injure the attacking dog. If it's bin day, my plans would be to quickly put my dogs in the bins and grab the attacking dog, I would probably lose one of my dogs in a vicious attack because they are so small. They've mostly been attacked by off leash Border Collies and Kelpies and crosses thereof.

It's a scary old world out there when so many owners are a---holes.

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I have stood in front of my own dogs and roared at the attacking dog, got its attention long enough to get my dog out of the way and kick the attacker.

Yes there was a good chance I was going to get bitten but I didn't think about it at the time.

Also I agree with PF I don't think there are Jindo's here, are you sure it was one? Because it sounds like you had a run in with an Akita :)

But you must report this, the guy sounds like a total wan*%er

I'm crap with knowing all the dog breeds, but before we got out the car yesterday my dad commented that he thought the dog was an Asian fighting breed of some sort, but neither of us could come up with a name. When I searched for info about the Jindo, the pictures that came up looked just like the dog that attacked Tilly.

I just tried searching for pictures of tan akitas, and found a picture of a dog that looked like the dog from yesterday too, except the head of this dog looked more like the head of the jindo picture I posted above. Maybe it was an Akita X ? :(

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The poodles and I got rushed by a large mixed-breed dog on a walk a few weeks ago. It was on our usual route but as the dog is normally in the backyard I wasnt paying too much attention. At the last minute I looked up and saw the dog and realised he was offlead and alone. He charged down the driveway towards us. I panicked a bit but then remembered cesar millans session at the dog park and how he reccomends placing yourself in front of your dogs, standing tall/proud etc. So I did this, stomped my feet and let out a short/sharp HEY!! and no joke he stopped dead in his tracks and ran back up the driveway.

Maybe a fluke but a lot easier than trying to worry about picking up a dog in each arm like I would have done in the past.

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As a general rule I put my dog behind my legs, stand as poodle proud suggested and roar!

I have stopped a couple of dog attacks on my DObes using such a method. One was from a dog that looked like a Bully X Shep that ran about 800 meteres or so down the beach with all hackles up and teeth hanging out. No bloody way it was going to get to my dog!

Having said that I am not particularly nervous of other dogs, large,small aggressive or other wise.

If they got within striking distance they would be kicked.

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The poodles and I got rushed by a large mixed-breed dog on a walk a few weeks ago. It was on our usual route but as the dog is normally in the backyard I wasnt paying too much attention. At the last minute I looked up and saw the dog and realised he was offlead and alone. He charged down the driveway towards us. I panicked a bit but then remembered cesar millans session at the dog park and how he reccomends placing yourself in front of your dogs, standing tall/proud etc. So I did this, stomped my feet and let out a short/sharp HEY!! and no joke he stopped dead in his tracks and ran back up the driveway.

Maybe a fluke but a lot easier than trying to worry about picking up a dog in each arm like I would have done in the past.

I will have to try this one today.. every bloody time walk my dogs some other dog comes running out of a drive way.. turns me off walking the dogs altogether :champagne:

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