FHRP Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 We have quite a few 400 border collies in agility around here and I know of one Kelpie. However I also know of several bc's and kelpies that jump 600!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Eta: not tying to convince you BTW just explaining why they are the small competition dog for me, as I get asked a lot why I would want to train a beagle. A beagle is on my wishlist for someday for obedience and agility It would have been my next dog (whenever that will be!) if I hadn't have fallen in love with another breed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Yep mine jumps 600 He is a tall fellow. However I think we will be quite competitive in separate heights trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 That is amazing if you are going on memory! Not that great... I keep remembering other breeds that I missed I was actually suprised by the number of 400 BCs. To be in 400 they are under height standard (although one of the WA 400 BCs is working lines) - they are also generally females. There are only 2 that I know of in WA, but there were quite a few more who came over from the other states Kelpie bitches are 43-48cm so can definitely be in 400 and still in breed standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Shelties! Very bright, happy to run and eager to be trained. Not as much grooming as they look if they are allowed inside. A big sheltie will jump 400, or you can get smaller lines. Temperament wise, you need to look for an outgoing one and socialise lots from when they are little... jess is just starting agility and LOVES it! Stig's been through the tunnel a few times too, and his learning is limited only by his owner's time and ability! have fun choosing, whatever you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Eta: not tying to convince you BTW just explaining why they are the small competition dog for me, as I get asked a lot why I would want to train a beagle. A beagle is on my wishlist for someday for obedience and agility It would have been my next dog (whenever that will be!) if I hadn't have fallen in love with another breed What could be better than a beagle?? If I wanted a higher drive dog I don't think I would go with a BC. A Toller, working line GSD, Malinois, Dobie, would all be a preference for me before a BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 After meeting Xena98's Coolie Gabby I know what I'd be getting :thumbsup: I do have a soft spot for Aussies ad Tollers too though. I have seen some Vallhunds at my club, I don't think that they're very good for agility IMO, they really battled to get over the jumps (and one of them was jumping 200) but I know there are some Corgis who seem to do ok? Just seems like not much leg to propel a large body! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Small dogs (200 and 300) that competed at the National Agility Trial:Mini Poodles JRT Cavalier CKS American Cocker Tenterfield Terrier Scottish Terrier Small White Fluffy (and yes that is what his "breed" has been put down as on the associate register He is most likely a Maltese cross) Scruffy terrier crosses Pomeranian Shelties (smaller ones) Mini schnauzer (very cool dog!) Beagle In the 400 range we had: NSDTR Border Collie Kelpie Manchester Terrier German Pinscher (sp) Finnish Lapphund (but they are generally not that high drive and being Spitz can decide they won't play that day!) Coolie Mini Poodles (larger ones) Shelties And that is all I can think of without looking at the catalogue Staffordshire Bull Terriers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I would have a Toller in a heartbeat if I wanted a smaller, lighter dog. But I personally couldn't go any smaller then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Staffordshire Bull Terriers How did I forget the Staffies Loved the red and white boy that was competing and Max is of course a spunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Eta: not tying to convince you BTW just explaining why they are the small competition dog for me, as I get asked a lot why I would want to train a beagle. A beagle is on my wishlist for someday for obedience and agility It would have been my next dog (whenever that will be!) if I hadn't have fallen in love with another breed What could be better than a beagle?? If I wanted a higher drive dog I don't think I would go with a BC. A Toller, working line GSD, Malinois, Dobie, would all be a preference for me before a BC. A BC isn't for me, either. My next dog I hope to get an Aussie :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Love my 400 pocket rocket midget BC . If I wasn't so breedest I'd probably get a toller and still might at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Shelties, I have seen a couple of shelties doing agility and they were delightful to watch. When you say 'from the right lines' is it safe to say that some lines are producing traits that are undesirable in a Sheltie? There's a fair bit of shyness around. You want a more drivey, resilient dog for performance. Good Shelties ARE out there.. you need to ask performance folk where they get theirs. A sheltie by breed standard is meant to be reserved with strangers. Don’t mistake reserved for shy. A sheltie is very focused on his owner and not really interested in strangers to any correct degree, this is a correct temperament. A shy sheltie that is terrified of the world is just as incorrect as one that bounces all over everyone with terrier type temperament. I would hope most breeders would be breeding for correct temperament. Personally I used to do obedience and to a lesser degree agility with mine and found rather than lines it was a certain type of sheltie that needed a job. They are generally very easy to spot as they are the first into everything in the litter box and are busy babies. They can be ideal as not only are they very smart but they are also fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 A BC isn't for me, either. My next dog I hope to get an Aussie Pffffft who'd go an Aussie if you could have a beagle???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 A BC isn't for me, either. My next dog I hope to get an Aussie Pffffft who'd go an Aussie if you could have a beagle???? Why either when you could have another retriever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I have seen some Vallhunds at my club, I don't think that they're very good for agility IMO, they really battled to get over the jumps (and one of them was jumping 200) but I know there are some Corgis who seem to do ok? Just seems like not much leg to propel a large body! Vallhund legs should be longer than corgis', and I don't think they should be any heavier. I think if I seriously wanted a small agility competitor to win with I wouldn't go for a Vallhund (or a corgi, for that matter). I'd go with something taller. Obedience is another matter. Vallhunds are good fun to train in general, though. They are crazy smart. A little bit spookily smart, actually. Probably too smart for their own good. I still think Tibetan Terrier would be a good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 A BC isn't for me, either. My next dog I hope to get an Aussie :p Pffffft who'd go an Aussie if you could have a beagle???? :p Why either when you could have another retriever! I'd go an Aussie because I want to :p And one day I will have the best of ALL worlds, my retrievers, an Aussie, AND a Beagle if council will let me The size of Beagles is the only downside for me, I like my dogs bigger, hence deciding on the Aussie over the Beagle, but I do so love the Beagles (those ears :D) that they will appear in my life along the way somewhere ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 The size of Beagles is the only downside for me, I like my dogs bigger, hence deciding on the Aussie over the Beagle, but I do so love the Beagles (those ears ) that they will appear in my life along the way somewhere http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/breeders/harrier.asp http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/community/foxhound.asp Still think you should go for a retriever though (but I am biased :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Daisy is 17kg so she's not that small. I like her size, compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Thanks VCBR, I looked those up the other day ETA: Have you forgotten I already own 2 Lab Retrievers?? A 3rd at this stage isn't really required! Edited May 4, 2010 by RubyStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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