W Sibs Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Just want to say she is insanely cute.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austerra Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hope the harness and collars are good for sizing and enough adjustment in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hope the harness and collars are good for sizing and enough adjustment in them. Yes, they are great Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) your dog should understand that children are something that is part of life and not to be chased - they're a Malinois greatest trigger with their squealing and fast movements. Some people dont want their dog touched but if it is to interact with your family and not be a military grade dog, single handler, in a run etc then why not socialise it to accept being touched by other people to a degree. All mine are trained to tolerate, they dont have to adore kids/other people etc and they dont really. But they wont launch or bite either, they have to be safe to have in society as well. Remember there's a midpoint between positive and negative - and that is neutrality. That is what you aim for. The dog sees and understands these things exist but they elicit neither excitement or fear. They're just another part of the scenery. ETA those that say your dog will be ruined because you allow other people to touch it 1) are not good trainers or 2) work with a lot of poor quality dogs. Socialising hasnt ruined mine and I have had european breeders/trainers agree with me. Edited November 1, 2011 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Neutral is my aim for sure. I suppose my concern is not just creating an overly positive value, but that the pup might have a bad experience given that you can't control the stupidity of others (and kiddies are just unpredictable). She had a pat from a couple of kids today, one at a time and nice and gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 For what it's worth this is what I've found with my Military pup - from when he first came home (3mths) I allowed people to pat him when we were out on walks as he was on lead and closely supervised. He is now 6mths and yesterday on our walk at the local shopping center I found that, probably due to his size, not too many people want to pat him and he has absolutely no interest in people or children. I walked him through the carpark and a child thought it would be funny to stick her head out the car window and scream at him - but as I expected my dog glanced at her and continued walking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 you can't really go that wrong unless you constantly allow kids to terrorise the pup. Just watch the pups mood if its not in the mood don't push it but that goes for every dog really. Rogue went through absolute horror periods this year, launched at a couple of male friends and bailed up her breeder in the entrance hall when he visited then again I didn't go for a sport dog in this one. She's fine now, nothing a level head and just riding the hormonal wave out wont fix. gsdog2 are you doing any prey training/bite development/obedience with your dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted November 2, 2011 Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 For what it's worth this is what I've found with my Military pup - from when he first came home (3mths) I allowed people to pat him when we were out on walks as he was on lead and closely supervised. He is now 6mths and yesterday on our walk at the local shopping center I found that, probably due to his size, not too many people want to pat him and he has absolutely no interest in people or children. I walked him through the carpark and a child thought it would be funny to stick her head out the car window and scream at him - but as I expected my dog glanced at her and continued walking you can't really go that wrong unless you constantly allow kids to terrorise the pup. Just watch the pups mood if its not in the mood don't push it but that goes for every dog really. Rogue went through absolute horror periods this year, launched at a couple of male friends and bailed up her breeder in the entrance hall when he visited then again I didn't go for a sport dog in this one. She's fine now, nothing a level head and just riding the hormonal wave out wont fix. gsdog2 are you doing any prey training/bite development/obedience with your dog? Good to know. So far she's more interested biting and rolling around to care about pats... or my yummy treats We did another school run this morning, the kids were good but started to get a little too excited towards the end so scooped her up and off we went. Elka was relatively unphased and would have rathered another romp around the school grounds instead. gsdog2, two of Elka's litter brothers went off to RAAF on the weekend too.:D Nekhbet, I heard about Rogues little episode with her breeder Ahhhhhh I'm not looking forward to these fear periods and hormonal bitchiness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Oh it wasnt really a fear period, more a get out of my house you weird man very territorial little bitch this one, never was going to just a sport home. When you have a 7 week old pup guarding the back step you know you're onto a winner. I'm one for allowing them to be a little feral in the first 12 months. They're still babies then anyway and such an epressive breed I dont find them one to just plug obedience at day in day out. I would rather dogs that learn through experience and use their brains too Rogue literally shat herself when she was a baby, a skateboard went past her. Now she doesnt even acknowledge them. I don't know I seem to just deal with their little tanties and tell them to get over it, and they do. Mali's are not that hard, just more the fact you need a LOT of consistent work all the time. Ahh hormones. She's over her first season it was quite subtle compared to Mina. And she was a total tart, she kept backing into my dogues nose or sitting on his head got a long way to go before she gets rumpy pumpy, the HUSSY! You will notice your dog improves with every season too, tends to level them out quite nicely which is why I dont like early desexing in dogs like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 She's beautiful SK Congratulations! I have no experience with your type of working dog but I think a good dog is a good dog. A youngster that has an innate working ability and temperament will have instinctive value for that job. From what I understand you have such a dog. Obviously being in the hands of a good trainer helps. My Em greets everybody she meets with a softly wagging, submissive pose but it only takes one word to flick the switch to INTENSE working mode. I hope that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Is your Em from the dogs Steve Austin uses? Met a couple of the pups when I went up there for a conference they were intense little things. Almost convinced me to get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Is your Em from the dogs Steve Austin uses? Met a couple of the pups when I went up there for a conference they were intense little things. Almost convinced me to get one Oh yeh Same breeder. Mad buggers but I'd have half a dozen of them if I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 the crazier they are the more addictive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest english.ivy Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 What sort of work does a Mal do best at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 depends on the lines, some are better at dog sports, others are more protection type. Either way they tend to do well at scent detection, tracking, agility, protection sports etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pie Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Awwww she is so cute! Her name really suits her (I think it does anyway) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Still waiting for bone spazzo video ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) you can't really go that wrong unless you constantly allow kids to terrorise the pup. Just watch the pups mood if its not in the mood don't push it but that goes for every dog really. Rogue went through absolute horror periods this year, launched at a couple of male friends and bailed up her breeder in the entrance hall when he visited then again I didn't go for a sport dog in this one. She's fine now, nothing a level head and just riding the hormonal wave out wont fix. gsdog2 are you doing any prey training/bite development/obedience with your dog? Minimal obedience - he is to be encouraged to walk out in front of me (not beside me) and we play with the tug every day, as well as the two ball game. He's obsessed with the balls (provided by RAAF) and whenever he see's me he goes to the table where I keep them and waits (not that he gets them everytime). They tested him for his prey & bite drive last week and I think they were VERY happy - he was already super-hyped and he went crazy when they waved the rag in front of him and he was climbing over these massive tyres when they held a ball above them I said to one of the people there that I just want him to graduate and they said from what they saw of him that's not going to be an issue - I soooooo hope they're right SK: I wonder if they're going to foster the pups out? They'll be at RAAF Amberley which is literally 5 minutes from my place and where my pup comes from. He goes back in a couple of weeks but I've already decided I want a break over xmas before I think about getting another one Edited November 2, 2011 by gsdog2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemesideways Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Oooh mal baby yay! I was thinking about the interaction with people/kids the other day, I have a GSD pup (He is working line). and attracts so much attention wherever we go. Especially the constant "what cross is he?" because he is Sable. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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