patterdale Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I noticed that there are several Results posted on the this saying something like 'shortlisted for BiG' or such like. I wonder if this is good or bad? Initially my thoughts are 'wow' - that dog did well, but after some more thought I changed my mind. If the dog is shortlisted for BiG and does not take either BiG or R/U BiG does this mean that on closer inspection it didn't deliver what the judge was hoping for? Not sure if that is actually a good thing to post? What do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faolmor Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Judges often make a short-list of the dogs who have caught their eye, and those which they would like to see in comparison specifically to the other "top" dogs in the line-up (in their opinion). It's just one more judge's opinion, but it is certainly a nice thing to be in the short-list. If you're not chosen...*shrug* So the judge preferred one of the others. But it's nice to think your dog was one of the very best they'd seen all day in the group, even if you don't win a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
experiencedfun Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 i think its something that if newbies post is good and I enjoy seeing their joy but when seasoned showies put it up it looks a little desperate. Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Can be relevant sometimes - particularly when talking to overseas friends where at shows in group they place 1-4 rather than just 1st and runner up. Being shortlisted isn't a win, but it is still recognition that your dog was at least considered. In minority breeds this can be nice to know. Edited February 8, 2012 by espinay2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Yep, especially if all they ever post is brags. I'm interested in your brag if I have some kind of two way relationship with you or you post interesting stuff about the breed or you're a newbie. If not it just becomes part of the never ending eye glazing stream of PR on FB. Also, while I'm here having a bitch, it is naff to post show PR pictures of you and your dogs in the weeks leading up to a speciality or major show. It is also naff to post obviously photoshopped pictures - I saw a hilarious one the other day where the coat on the back of the dog was perfectly still and at the front it was blowing in the breeze on top of obviously photoshopped grass :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellcara Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's nice to be included in a "short list" .... don't see the point in using it in results though. Some "short lists" I've seen have been up to 8 dogs ... some 4 .... the worst was when I was in a short list of 3 !!! silly really when you leave 1 standing there alone. As for FB ... of course people use it for bragging ... it's free !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Yep, especially if all they ever post is brags. I'm interested in your brag if I have some kind of two way relationship with you or you post interesting stuff about the breed or you're a newbie. If not it just becomes part of the never ending eye glazing stream of PR on FB. Also, while I'm here having a bitch, it is naff to post show PR pictures of you and your dogs in the weeks leading up to a speciality or major show. It is also naff to post obviously photoshopped pictures - I saw a hilarious one the other day where the coat on the back of the dog was perfectly still and at the front it was blowing in the breeze on top of obviously photoshopped grass :rofl: Especially if you've altered your dogs eye colour from faulty to correct in the very same picture you had posted previously. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Yep, especially if all they ever post is brags. I'm interested in your brag if I have some kind of two way relationship with you or you post interesting stuff about the breed or you're a newbie. If not it just becomes part of the never ending eye glazing stream of PR on FB. Also, while I'm here having a bitch, it is naff to post show PR pictures of you and your dogs in the weeks leading up to a speciality or major show. It is also naff to post obviously photoshopped pictures - I saw a hilarious one the other day where the coat on the back of the dog was perfectly still and at the front it was blowing in the breeze on top of obviously photoshopped grass :rofl: Especially if you've altered your dogs eye colour from faulty to correct in the very same picture you had posted previously. ;) Have no idea why someone would do this, eyes can change a lot depending on the light and the angle of the shot so why not just take a flattering photo? Unless the eyes were bright yellow or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showpony Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 i think its something that if newbies post is good and I enjoy seeing their joy but when seasoned showies put it up it looks a little desperate. Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Hi, So agree........and they dont just post on fb MBIS or MBIG etc.......you see it on the breeds profile lists here on DOL....all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I would not consider doctoring photos or serial brag advertising in the same category as mentioning class wins or wins considered important or commenting that your dog was shortlisted? I have bragged about a runner up best of breed. But that was for a bitch under an international specialist judge with a large entry when both are as rare as hens teeth for my breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 i think its something that if newbies post is good and I enjoy seeing their joy but when seasoned showies put it up it looks a little desperate. Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Hi, So agree........and they dont just post on fb MBIS or MBIG etc.......you see it on the breeds profile lists here on DOL....all the time I'm sorry but I don't see what is wrong with this. Please someone enlighten me. By gawd if I ever got a BIS you bet it would be on the dogs profile for ever and a day, ditto with BIG, what is so wrong with listing your dogs wins You must all hate my greyhound wins thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayly Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Yep, especially if all they ever post is brags. I'm interested in your brag if I have some kind of two way relationship with you or you post interesting stuff about the breed or you're a newbie. If not it just becomes part of the never ending eye glazing stream of PR on FB. Also, while I'm here having a bitch, it is naff to post show PR pictures of you and your dogs in the weeks leading up to a speciality or major show. It is also naff to post obviously photoshopped pictures - I saw a hilarious one the other day where the coat on the back of the dog was perfectly still and at the front it was blowing in the breeze on top of obviously photoshopped grass :rofl: I love so called breeders who post their dog's DNA test results online, but for a DOMINANT condition put down the dog as a CARRIER, when ONE copy of the gene is classed as DNA AFFECTED. :laugh: You really have to wonder sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) i think its something that if newbies post is good and I enjoy seeing their joy but when seasoned showies put it up it looks a little desperate. Just like people who post on FB RUBIS or MRUBIS before their dogs names..... there comes a time when you just stop reading Hi, So agree........and they dont just post on fb MBIS or MBIG etc.......you see it on the breeds profile lists here on DOL....all the time I was very unsure about putting BIS MBIG in front of one of my girl's profiles - I agree it's naff, but it's the norm for the breed so I eventually went with the flow. Kind of dammed if you do 'cause it's naff but damned if you don't 'cause it looks like they haven't won anything major compared to the others who do. First dogs I have shown for over a decade, and boy the approach to bragging has changed over that time. I haven't put MRUBIG for the one who hasn't cracked a group yet and just has several runner-ups - that seemed just too naff even for me, LOL. I love when a newbie posts even a small win, but posts with copious colours, capitals and emoticons from experienced exhibitors for every fringie do look pretty self-obsessed and sad to me, probably the opposite impression of what they want to achieve. Edited February 8, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I was very unsure about putting BIS MBIG in front of one of my girl's profiles - I agree it's naff, but it's the norm for the breed so I eventually went with the flow. Kind of dammed if you do 'cause it's naff but damned if you don't 'cause it looks like they haven't won anything major compared to the others who do. why? Were you ashamed of her wins? Did you think you looked boastful? What's naff? I don't get it, I really don't. Showing is a hobby but you are trying to win so why not be proud when it happens, why be made to feel it's something to be ashamed of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I was very unsure about putting BIS MBIG in front of one of my girl's profiles - I agree it's naff, but it's the norm for the breed so I eventually went with the flow. Kind of dammed if you do 'cause it's naff but damned if you don't 'cause it looks like they haven't won anything major compared to the others who do. why? Were you ashamed of her wins? Did you think you looked boastful? What's naff? I don't get it, I really don't. Showing is a hobby but you are trying to win so why not be proud when it happens, why be made to feel it's something to be ashamed of? Because to me it seems boastful, petty and self-obsessed. My experience is that those who boast loudest are the least worth listening too. The most worthwhile people I know never boast at all, about anything. They don't need to. Hate becoming one of the braggarts - but times change. And the mulitcoloured posts with dancing emoticons and capitals are just way OTT crass to me - UNLESS you are new to showing or to fringies, or you are posting to good friends who know and care about your dogs, or you have a minority breed, then they are entirely fun, LOL. I tried a couple but nah, way too 'look at MEEEE!' for my taste. It's a cultural thing I guess. I don't understand why you would ask if I am ashamed though - does not boasting about something imply shame? That's a new one on me, very not my culture that one. Edited February 8, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) urban dictionary:NAFF British slang, describes something that is stupid, lame or unpalatable I hope I never think my dogs wins or using them in my dogs profile is naff, how very sad. Edited February 8, 2012 by Rebanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
experiencedfun Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 It started out as BISS, that one I could understand, then it was BIS even that I find acceptable. But when the best your dog has got is RUBIS, it is getting ridiculous, it is not an unbeaten dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) urban dictionary:NAFF British slang, describes something that is stupid, lame or unpalatable I hope I never think my dogs wins or using them in my dogs profile is naff, how very sad. NOT sad. Just a different approach to boasting. I am very proud. Just not boastful. One does not require the other. I list their big wins in the text of the profile. But acting like it's part of their name when it's not is still odd to me. And to others I am relieved to see. I thought I was just old-fashioned. Edited February 8, 2012 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I don't care what they post as long as its correct although a small handful are adding titles that i think came from the fairy farm I like any brags to be to the point,open show,champ show etc etc so atleast you now what type of show it was ,all wins are special & new people get excited no matter what something we all did when we started but i hate seeing old timers trying to fool judges in thinking there BISS or BIS was at a champ show when it was an open show In one breed (not one i have) there is a big brag about wins,records & the likes but many of those wins are open shows ,records for me are champ shows but each to there own there Being shortlisted at some shows is a major feat & an honor to be amongst those dogs ,being shortlisted often with a youngster is also great encouragement for its future . I imagine naff is like daft,stupid.silly Adding wins to the name like BISS/BIS etc etc is used worldwide & more so overseas & something people over there use more so than here & with greater pride ,It is a way of acknowledging a dog & its success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I would not consider doctoring photos or serial brag advertising in the same category as mentioning class wins or wins considered important or commenting that your dog was shortlisted? That was partly my fault, I ranted off on a tangent about Facebook after experiencedfun mentioned the eyeglazing factor of some bragging. As Diva mentions, context counts for a lot. Edited to add that I introduced the word naff, and I used it about two specific behaviours, neither of which were about putting BIS/BISS at the front of a dog's name. Edited February 8, 2012 by SkySoaringMagpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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