vanessa0305 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 When Bailey gets desexed at 6 months he will also have his dew claws removed and the vet wants to tattoo his nose. I have never heard of this before. It it safe? Will it hurt him (I know he will be under when he gets it done but I mean afterwards) what will stop him licking it and making in become a sore? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Vanessa, I gather that Bailey's nose is all or partially pink? The tatooing is done as a cancer preventative - I know its quite common with cats, but I haven't heard of it on a dog before. A bit of TLC should prevent it becoming a mess after the op. As he will be under anaesthetic, he won't feel a thing. Hey, humans have it done every day - fully awake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) My tattooist did a dog once as a cancer preventative There are many views on whether or not it is effective I guess bepanthen would work, like it does on humans, but would be hard to stop him licking it I would imagine that their noses would be pretty sensitive (I have my eyeliner done and it was pretty painful, but I was awake for it!) Edited September 14, 2006 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthless Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I have my eyeliner done and it was pretty painful, but I was awake for it! try eyebrows and eyeliner in one sitting! then i was allregic to bepanthen so i got infected. now it's healed was well worth it, shower and out the door in 15mins! [sorry that was completely off topic!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alprazolam Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 It was quite popular in Brisbane a few years ago as a cancer preventitive in pink nose dogs however it did not seem to lower the risk of skin cancers so it was phased out (I though) Do a search on the net and see what you can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) OT again! I had my eyebrows done 2 weeks before them! lol and went back cos I just had to get my eyeliner done Though I didn't use bepanthen on them, I used the protat cream Edited September 14, 2006 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I wouldn't get your puppy's nose tattooed I think - and this is only my opinion - that it is uneccessary and is a fallacy that it will prevent skin cancer. Sunscreen will prevent skin cancer Tattooing will make the nose look all black and nothing more If tattooing with INK prevented skin cancer - don't you think we'd all be wearing ink ??:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysti_Lei Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) tatooing doesn't pevent cancer. as the ink is several layers of skin beneath the surface, the top layers are the ones that burn, so the ink just succeeds in covering up and spots. Edited September 14, 2006 by Crysti_Lei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa0305 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 Thanks for the info. I was really quite worried about it. All I could think of was how sore my tattoo was after it was done (it hurt more a day or so later then it did when it was done) and how easily it would become a mess if he was licking it all the time. To tell the truth I am hopeing his nose will become all black not only for his safety in cancer prevention but also so I don't have to front up to my vet and say....nah going against your advice and not having it done....I am a bit of a chicken when it comes to those sorts of things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelbundy Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I would go with sunscreen... I'd be wary of tattooing my pups nose, with all the licking etc. Also, I don't think inking skin has anything to do with lowering skin cancer risk, as it doesn't change the level of melolin in the skin, which is why paler skin burns easier. I'm also guessing it is an expensive procedure... money probably better spent elsewhere, unless your vet can prove without a doubt (studies done etc) that it works... :D Sorry, just thinking of our very pink nosed pony going in for a little nose tattooing! Think I'll stick with sunscreen & nose guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 My Cav has a few white spots on his nose, too. As he is getting older (he's 14 weeks) i've noticed the white spots are disappearing. Bailey's may go away as he grows also? I probably would steer clear of tatooing still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) Yes, sometimes pigmentation takes a while to come through - I've recently seen this happen with a pale gold puppy with a pink nose - it turned black with 3 months :D Also there is something known as "Winternose" where the nose goes a pinky colour in Winter weather but by Summer, it is black again. Edited to add: if you intend to show this puppy, you would need to tattoo - full pigmentation is desirable in most breeds for the showring. Edited September 14, 2006 by t-time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa0305 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 t-time, thanks for the info, I too see Baileys nose starting to lose more of the pink. We thought long and hard about showing but have decided that Bailey is a pet and we wont be showing him or breeding him. This is why we spoke to our vet about desexing and this is when the vet told us he wanted to tattoo Baileys nose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Then just agree to the desexing and say NO to the tattooing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Interesting....I have a Tatt and they say to keep it out of the sun as it will fade....so wouldn't you need to do this procedure a number of times in the dogs life span? How about getting pooch used to getting Zinc put on it's nose? Doesn't taste nice either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaves Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Vanessa, my vet wouldn't remove Mitchis dew claws today when she was desexed becasue they were attached properly and he didn't think they would be a problem. Are Baileys causiing a concern or the vet just said he would remove them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) Try googling natural skin pigmentation in dogs or something like that. I have heard giving kelp powder helps the nose pigment up, but I don't know if that's a fallacy. I wouldn't tattoo either, I think you'd need to see some scientific evidence that it actually works. Mel. Edited September 15, 2006 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessa0305 Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Kristie, my vet said they remove all rear dew claws unless requested not to but only the front ones if they cause trouble. Mel, I am going to put Bailey on Nutro which has kelp powder in it I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Yes, Border Collie people will recommend kelp powder - supposed to help deepen pigment in eyes and nose. I gave it to my two for their first 12 months or so - a teaspoon or so with their food. Don't know if it works, but I don't think it can do any harm - though you may want to check that. And yes, I'd go with sunscreen - there's one formulated for dogs. I'd also thought that tattooing was cosmetic only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie-boy Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 my vet said they remove all rear dew claws unless requested not to but only the front ones if they cause trouble. "They" remove all rear dew claws? Sorry but that doesn't wash well with me. My Millie has quite pronounced rear dew claws which I spoke to my vet at work about and her opinion was to leave them alone unless they start to cause problems which they shouldn't. If Millie had been a working dog then sure, but I would be hesitant otherwise. Sometimes dew claw removal can be an involved surgery and personally I think it unneccesary for aesthetic reasons. Millie also had pink pigmentation when she came to us at 8 weeks - it was quite a lot too, one side of her nose - and I think it was within a month, her nose went completely black. If you're noticing Baileys nose is getting more black each day then fingers crossed it continue. I too wouldn't get his nose tattooed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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