ish Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I'm interested in learning which brands of super premium dry food contain extras for joint support. I know alot of the large breed older dog ones (such as Advance Senior) do - I'm particually interested in any marketed more at active dogs or any personal experiences feeding a not so senior dog on the senior foods for the joint support. Anyone use the Hills prescription diet for joints? Alternatively, is it better to feed a good quality suitable dry plus suppliements (sashas blend, joint guard etc) or go for a super premium which contains joint support already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I feed my Elkhounds and Afghan on Nutro. All of the range of Nutro dry contain Glucosamine and Chondroitin. They have one for High Energy dogs as well as several other varieties. My dogs love it and have never been in better condition. They don't lose as much coat either and it is guaranteed to inmprove their skin and coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 iI feed a good diet is feed but i prefer to use a product where i now the daily intake is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) iI feed a good diet is feed but i prefer to use a product where i now the daily intake is working. huh?? :D Edited October 25, 2006 by ImaShepHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Piximatosis Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Kaeleigh is on Nutro Lamb & Rice Large Breed, with Sasha's Blend and lots of RMBs.... and as you know she's going really well. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 All Nutro products contain Glucosamine and Chondoritin but senior has more and is available from 4 Paws and More in Keilor Park, Melbourne. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellybly10 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I asked my vet this same question, he said that there is not enough of the glucosamine and chondroitin in any of the foods to really make a difference, so he recommends keeping dogs on the food that they are doing well on (mine were on Eagle Pack but have now switched to Nutro) and then supplementing with a product like Joint Guard or Cosequin etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 The dog in question is on Advance Energy at the moment and now having actually read the bag, I've discovered it does have joint support already in it - I feel very clever! We've started her on Sasha's Blend and I think I will look into the availability of Nutro in Ballarat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) also watch high protein levels Edited October 25, 2006 by wheres my rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 What does high protein levels do? Whats considered high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I've been researching diets lots Here ya go: "Most breeders have discovered that feeding a diet that is high in protein usually contributes to the Hip Dysplasia factor and when a growing large breed dog is fed a diet that is lower in protein than some commercial puppy foods their breeding dogs are thus screened with a lower score. We prefer to feed our dogs from the age of three months a commercial kibble adult dog food as this usually has a much lower protein level at 25% than a commercial puppy food that has a protein level of as high as 34%." (from a large breed forum) "Your older dog will need a well-balanced diet that is lower in calories, protein, and fat yet higher in fiber. You may be able to continue feeding your dog her regular food, but in a smaller quantity. Or you may need a specially formulated senior diet. Commercially prepared senior diets have a protein of around 18% whereas diets for dogs in renal failure are around 14% protein. If your dog has significantly decreased kidney function, then a diet lower in protein will lower the workload for the kidneys. Lower fat usually translates to lower calories so many senior diets have a fat level of around 10 to 12%. Older dogs are more prone to develop constipation, so senior diets are higher in fiber (around 3 to 5%). You can also add wheat bran to regular dog food to increase fiber intake. Finally, feeding your dog dry food (if she will eat it) will help to control tartar build-up and reduce gum disease. " (general old dog health site) http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/protein.html (this site is a REALLY detailed focus on protein) Hope it helps (too much time on my hands :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ish Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks Imy - thats very helpful She's been on Advance Energy since she was about 12 months old which has 30% protein, before that she was on Supercoat Puppy. Does anyone know the % protein for Supercoat puppy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) Here ya go: http://www.supercoat.com.au/dir016/superco...ycleRange_Puppy Edited to add: 28% (just so you don't have to click the link) Edited October 26, 2006 by imy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Perhaps have a look at Nutro Large Breed Adult Maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?showtopic=78727 I found a website that was really interesting in regards to dry food eg protein, by products etc etc the link to the site is at the bottom of the quoted info on protien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Well , considering that when they did tests on human suppliments which have Glucosamine and Chondoritin in them they found that all but one or two didnt have anywhere near the right amounts to be able to make a dent of difference and most were inactive Id say the vet which said there's not enough in the dog foods was closer to the money .Chicken cartlidge has huge amounts in it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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