Kelpie-i Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) Poodle Mum: Whilst working in a vet hospital for 11 years I saw more injuries from pinch collars, prong collars and the good old choker chains. Hi Poodle Mum, I just thought I'd point out that pinch collars and prong collars are the same thing - it's just that you write as though they are two different training tools. Edited December 27, 2006 by Kelpie-i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Whilst working in a vet hospital for 11 years I saw more injuries from pinch collars, prong collars and the good old choker chains. Really? That's interesting isn't it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 unfortunately I have seen a lot of head colalrs break, snap or plain fall off when misused. Any equiptment that causes injury is being used wrong. You can damage a dogs throat by yanking hard with a flat leather collar. Hence why this dog would be better with obedience and good old fashioned work. Its a large dog with respect issues and no equiptment will automatically fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReXy Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 i agree also,, of course you will need obedience and some training for the dog,, nothing is a quick fix.. its a trianing tool and should be used as one properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Whilst working in a vet hospital for 11 years I saw more injuries from pinch collars, prong collars and the good old choker chains. Not disputing the check chain injuries - Im sure you have seen plenty, but would you pls be so kind to number and describe the injuries that prong collars caused. How many people walked into the vet hospital with the dog on the prong collar during the 11 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Tonymc I don't think it's a windup but... Poodlemum, I worked as a vet nurse for 15 years and my bosses specialised in rottis and we saw lots of dobes and GSDs as well. Many of these used prong collars and the first time I ever saw one I was shocked LOL. But in all the years I never ONCE saw an injury caused by one. And we saw plenty of dogs with neck injuries. So I don't know where you get that one from. I suggest putting one around your leg and giving it a heck of a pull. You'll find it hard to injure yourself more than a pinch but you could strangle someone with a regular slip chain. On the subject of head collars I might add that I think the infin8 might be a little safer than the others but as soon as the head collar comes off, every dog I've seen at my classes reverts to the unwanted behaviour the head collar was put on for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 In other words, I agree with those who say the problem needs to be solved with professional help. You can use a head collar, flat collar, pinch collar whatever and when you take it off your dog will still listen, if you get some help from a professional trainer. But good luck cos I know how hard it seems and at first, it seems like you'll never win. But with consistency and patience you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 You need to try different head collars & finds the one that best fits your dog. you need to seek help from an experienced trainer for them to determine what the best training aid will be not just guess…. I have fitted 100's of head collars, you will not injure his neck, as its fitted to the dogs head!! I have fitted thousands of prong collars to dogs and had no problems with the dogs receiving injury…but I wouldn’t be suggesting any training aid without first seeing the dog…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) . Edited June 6, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tiggy Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Does anyone know of a good trainer in Perth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I have fitted 100's of head collars, you will not injure his neck, as its fitted to the dogs head!! Try running that by canine chiropractors and physiotherapists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Does anyone know of a good trainer in Perth? contact the ndtf and see if they can put you onto someone who they recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) . Edited June 6, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonymc Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Poodlemum, you have overlooked one little detail in your post.A Dog"s head is connected to his Neck. Tonymc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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