JulesP

I would say drop as doggie hits the ground, at this stage you are still teaching word association. So drop as doggie hits ground, followed immediately by a 'yes' or click, treats on ground and release quickly.

Are you putting the treats on the ground?? Or giving from your hand? They need to be on the ground with your hand removed fairly quickly, a couple of treats too to keep her in the position for a little while.

Some dogs do it easier from a stand, some from a sit. You could also try getting her to drop under a chair or your legs (if doggie is smaller enough), lure doggie under and say drop when doggie hits the deck.

Something I have always done with my borders Reddii is to pretend to work them! i.e. if I am going to the washing line I will call them to me and say lets go do the washing and we all go up to the washing line! If I go get the mail, it is come on lets get the mail! Sounds silly but they love it! I might chuck in some sits, drops on the way, do a recall etc. Or I might ask them to find the cats, each other etc.

I would be looking at what plants you have in your garden too! If doggy has it on his paws that could be a sign he is walking on something that he has an allergy to. My pup did get itchies on his nose when he had a plant allergy. Not on his paws though as he wasn't walking on the culprit he was laying on it!

Hey LL my border plays with his bowls too! Very annoying when I get home in the dark and I can't find the damn things. Am trying to teach him to find them for me at the moment! He also spends hours pushing a plastic pot around, the noise is amazing! Gives visitors a bit of a fright. Reddii the dogs might not be a problem with herding the kids, mine do a lot of 'herding' which mainly involves stalking, running and dropping, pointing etc and borders aren't supposed to be nipping type herders. Brock's latest hobby is herding planes and hot air ballons! A dog has to have a hobby

One of my funniest training moments was when i had Brock on a stay and it just started to pour with rain with no reason, those massive big drops of rain. It scared the crap out of both of us!! The look on his face was priceless. He did break the stay. I don't train in the rain deliberately but if I am club I keep going. Trained him the other weekend in quite heavy rain to see how he would react. Wasn't too bad. I find there is no change in performance in really hot weather. Very windy days he is a bit anxious.

:D :D Congrat BC, way to go!!! Woo hooo

Brock enjoyed the Kinta woofing! :D

Lol I am probably closer than both of you, but think you have better drives to get there!

Shirley Chong mainly.

What is it with these BCs?? I am (as most people know) quite stressed with this retrieve business now. Brock still thinks it is quite offensive still (patience, Jules, patience). I am considering trialling my cat after she went and fetched a toy I had chucked for Brock! FOO hey? bit of a hike for me Dogdude but will try.

In the beginning you don't say come until the pup is coming. So get someone to hold her, call her name in a very excited voice and then get the person to let go, as she bolts towards you then say come. Or have her on lead and wait unti she has gone to the end of the lead and then call her name and come. Or you run backwards and call. You don't want them to learn they have an option.

lol Kavik, nice to see your neighbours probably think that you are nuts too (I train in the front yard!) :rolleyes:

Crap I am exhausted! Finally got the poofy BC to actually bounce around a little bit and at least run and pounce on some toys and little bit of tug. A sad moment was when I threw a toy and the bloody cat went and got it! (whilst Brock sat and gazed at me) :rolleyes:

As you know I am having retrieving issues with Brock and I think the first step needs to be getting him to play with me. One of his fav games is attacking the hose, he unravels it, wraps it around a tree and tugs like crazy, so last night I tried to get him to play tug with that. Nope. No amount of shaking, encouraging would get him to play whilst I was holding it. He just ducked under it and smooched up to me. :rolleyes:

Wooo hoooo! Very cute! Like the name too. Congrats!

I would like an Australian company to make a super Premium food!

Playing tug of war is an excellant way to teach the dog that you are pack leader, starting from when the dog is a pup preferably. Playing tug and then getting the pup to give up the toy (in exchange for a treat) shows that you are the boss. If you are the one that chooses when the game ends and you end up with the toy then you are showing that you are pack leader. So it really depends on how you are playing tug of war. The game that my club recommends never playing is chasey.

I find you need less of the Proplan than the Purina One so it works out about the same price anyhow. They often have specials on too. I use the Salmon one mainly.

Heehee I like that theory! Brock pulls like a train to dog school evey week. Now I am just gunna tell people he is keen and wants to train

I've never needed feed to catch my horses. if you do your training has gone wrong somewhere. Haven't seen too many horses trained to Grand Prix using just sugar cubes. Even the natural horsemanship trainers use a system of this will profit you, this will not.

So it was aimed at me. I said Western Curb and I stand by what I said. And I didn't say anything about a snaffle being gentle.

That is pretty much the basis of most horse training. Since horses aren't really that motivated about food etc rewards. Not sure how you would translate the bit thing to dog training. The western curb bit is a pretty full on training device. Maybe using a prong collar and then going to a flat collar would be similar.

Actually I think that people that aren't naturally good, make better teachers sometimes!!