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Happy birthday to my best boy Micha who turns eight years old today He is the best dog, he is beautiful and calm and happy and fun to train and be around. For his birthday he got two new toys, a orbee tough bouncy ball and a hard boiled softie toy - check out the noise it makes (he was quite excited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YarMA6vBQs Sitting very nicely waiting for me to throw his new toy: I can haz a bouncy ball?? With some of his birthday noms: Can we hurry this up please? I don't get my noms, you get attitudes: Happy birthday my lovely boy

Same.

Congrats FHRP!!! Great pic

Congrats everyone!! Hope you have video Bedazzled and Ptolomy!

Loved the bit with the JRTs. What little fire crackers!! Love seeing dogs doing what they were bred to do and enjoying it so much.

Prey drive is a dog's desire to chase and grab a moving item. Some dogs have different degrees of prey drive. K9 Pro has a few articles on his website that discuss it in a bit more detail; http://www.k9pro.com.au/pages.php?pageid=79 http://www.k9pro.com.au/pages.php?pageid=55 There is a difference between food exchange and food drive. You can tell the difference between a dog just taking a treat because you give it to them, and a dog who is working in food drive.

I had this issue recently with my cat as well as the beagle. The beagle had been good at our old house but since moving she became quite naughty... I did the sly spray-with-water trick. I don't use spray bottles for much if anything, but in this instance I found it helpful. I never sprayed near their faces, just a short quick squirt on their back when they jumped up. I was subtle so they didn't see me do it - our house is also open plan so I could do it from the lounge. It solved the problem quite quickly.

Depends how much drive she needs. You can definitely build drive in lower drive dogs if you know how

She might be prey driven, just not as high drive as some working lines. Like other posts have suggested there can be a whole range of environmental factors and learned behaviour that contribute to why a dog will not work in prey drive. A dog that lack confidence is also less likely to go into drive, even if it's good decent drive. I've seen pretty drivey dogs shut down when stressed and/or in high levels of distraction.

yes... Like others have said, food drive is still working in drive. Uta Bindels work is a good example. My own dog is a pretty low drive dog and I can still get reasonable focus and drive from working her in food drive. In example: not great work obedience wise but in terms of drive and focus - and this is a pretty low drive dog - you can certainly still work in drive with food.

I agree with PF - if food is her naturally higher drive, why not train in food drive? Is there a reason it has to be prey?

I've seen a five month old multigeneration labradoodle for sale via the ALA as a breeding dog for the cheap price of $15,000. I know people who have bought pups for between $3000-$5000.

Yes, prey drive doesn't = aggression per se. But the issue is that a very high prey drive dog can decide to try to chase & bite stock, small animals, people on bikes, little kids on scooters, tiny babies that sound like prey, etc etc. Hence the wording in the add pointing out that a high prey drive could manifest as aggression if the dog is not taught to control itself. That bit, at least, was responsible. God knows nothing else about this situation is. Not to mention what outlets a high drive working dog will find for pent up energy/drive that is not used because it's placed in a home that does not know how to cater for its needs.

I'm very interested too. My understanding was that the bitch was from KNPV lines. Not show lines. Still waiting Kristina, seeing as you are the one who has said they are not from working lines.

Seeing as you're still reading and posting in this thread Kristina, can you please point us in the direction of any Dutchies here in Australia who do not come from working lines? Thanks.

There goes any credibility you possibly could have had left Kristina... not all PP stores are bad? They understand the requirements of working line dogs and know how to place them in homes responsibly? Pull the other one... I cannot believe you are justifying the sale of these dogs in pet stores

Really? How many other people in your area have had a litter of Dutchie crosses born the same day as your pups? Dutchies are working dogs... can you show me any in Australia who AREN'T from working lines?? Are you honestly trying to say that the pet store is doing the right thing by these pups (impossible - they are a pet store!) when we've had DOLers SEE the pups there and speak to the staff members who have no idea what Dutchies even are never mind their requirements.

I'd rather have seen high drive working line puppies euthanised instead of put in a pet store by their stupid, irresponsible breeder where the pups were sold to first time dog owners with young children... who have zero idea or concept of the requirement of high drive working dogs. "Whoever" has put these puppies in PP has done more harm than good to the breed, Nekhbet is simply one of a few people who have been trying to clean up "someones" mess.

It's very typical of spitz breeds to not want to do things without a 'reason' (e.g. in Jedi's ET he didn't want to keep running after 6km until I told him there was a pigs ear waiting for him! That was reason enough to keep going! :rolleyes:). Lappies are easier to convince than most spitz breeds because they are after all, working dogs. But not doing anything unless there's a treat being waved around is something that is more likely linked to how you've trained her. We can talk about this tonight, if you like. What Nik said! All dogs want to work for a reward, for some dogs praise is enough, for some dogs its food, for some its a toy I never phase out rewards and ignore any trainer who implies you should do so in dog sports. I also agree with Nik that if she won't down without a treat in your hand that's the way you've taught it, she's still being lured without actually understand what she needs to do.

I'd have a chat to your trainer about it and I'd also book her into see Dr Rowan Kilmarten at Animal Options - http://www.animaloptions.com.au/

Yep and yet they'll happily endorse other aversive tools/methods.

Not soon but I think it will happen eventually. As to in-fighting between breeders, this happens with recognised breeds, too. Yes but it's hardly going to help them create a new breed of dog if they can't agree on how to do it or what to call the bloody thing.

The ALA aren't breeding simple lab/poodle crosses... I believe there can be up to six breeds they use to "infuse" into the mix. You only have to look at the ALA website to see that the dogs are not breeding to type or with any real uniformity.

I don't see "labradoodles" becoming a recognised breed any time soon. As it stands, there is enough in fighting/disagreement between the supposedly reputable breeders and some of the ALA breeders leave a lot to be desired I don't envisage that they will ever become a recognised breed at least under the name 'labradoodle' - they need to distinguish themselves between the people who are breeding crossbreeds and those who are supposedly breeding a type, and I don't see how they can do so when all the dogs are still called the same thing. That and I believe the ANKC has a rule about using existing breed names for a new breed.