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I have done it several times. I chose the stud and arranged the mating. They outlayed all the money, took all the financial risk and kept all the money from the puppies. I lent them whelping supplies including the whelping box and dry bed and in a couple of cases actually put my prefix in dual names so their names would be included as breeders. After the litter was registered, I transferred the prefix back. I was there for the whelpings, ran back and forth helping out and teaching abotu breeding, found buyers, met them when they came to look at the litter, provided puppy notes and decided which puppies went on which register and which buyer got which one. In most cases the owner kept a puppy and I had the first option to buy a puppy for the cost of their actual expenses ie. vaccination, registration, microchip, eye test and something towards the food and stud fee. What do I get out of it? The continuation of my prefix and the option to get a puppy of the breeding I want. If it is never your intention to make money out of the deal it can work out very well. Some of the owners I have done this with have just had one litter then desexed their bitch. Others have co-bred other litters with me under my prefix and eventually gone on to show, get their own prefix and become dedicated breeders. To me this is being a true mentor. It is one of the reasons that I never discount an enquiry for a bitch puppy that they would like to just have one litter before being desexed. Sometimes these are the ones most likley to make this sort of arrangement work. I have never had any problems with these arrangements but you need to get to know the owners and be confident they will work with you. You also need to remember it is their bitch and litter even though it is under your prefix and never overstep where you fit in.

Interesting, I haven't heard that before. I've had some with and some without. TBH at that age I'd be inclined to just leave them on - especially after learning the above info. Someone posted a link on here around 12 months ago (I think) about some studies done on wrist injuries in agility and how the dew claw helps to stop the wrist over twisting as they land. Very interesting stuff but I didn't keep a copy because I have never even considered removing front dew claws.

There is some pretty good evidence to suggest the wrist is more stable in agility if the dew claws are left on but it depends how much they stick out. In my breed most breeders leave them on and it is only in last 10 years or so that I have heard of anyone removing them. My dogs have all had neatly tucked in dew claws and if removed it would leave noticable dent in the leg. Other breeds have the dew claw attached more to the outside of the leg so they tend to stick out and get caught on things. When these dogs have them removed there is no dent left, just a straight leg. A lot depends on the individual dog as well as the breed. If the puppy didn't have them done at a few days old then they a re probably usually left on in Schnauzers.

Thanks for the replies, esp to you persephone that makes sense Sal sometimes "drips" a bit of pee when she's very tired. Yes, Aussie, I took her to a vet, but at the time I was more concerned about the general itchiness,I just thought the occassional scooting was not very often and quite normal.After a look over he said it was most likely a seasonal allergy. But since then, she has been doing it a bit more but notably more at the park. I just wondered about the anal glans because it was mentioned to me (as well as the "she's got worms!" comments )at the park. I will have her looked at that spot on next visit, I was really asking I suppose, if the anal glands are in need of expelling, would you feel any raised area. You won't necessarily feel the anal glands are full so they may need doing and the "she's got worms" could also be valid. Sometimes the combined wormers fail to kill tapeworm, so it is a good idea to treat ccasionally with Droncit, just for tapeworm as the segments from the flea tapeworm will make the anus itchy and cause scooting.

This are the regulations in Vic. 4.1.13 Transfers within the Registers 4.1.13.1 A dog may be transferred between the Main Register and Limited Register as follows: 4.1.13.1.1 Transfer from Main Register to Limited Register. A dog may be transferred from the Main Register to the Limited Register on application in writing signed by the registered owner. 4.1.13.1.2 Transfer from Limited Register to Main Register. A dog may be transferred from the Limited Register to the Main Register on application in writing signed by both the breeder and registered owner. 4.1.13.2 Any application for transfer not covered by the Regulations must be approved by Management Committee. 4.1.13.3 Dogs on the Limited Register may be transferred to the ownership of non-members of the VCA.

Every dog I have had attacked has been an entire male and every dog that has run across a park to attack them has also been an entire male, all of the people on here that have only had desexed dogs have no idea what life is like with entire dogs. My alpha females have always tried to protect the rest of their pack when out walking but it is always the boys that actually get attacked. Most of the off lead dogs I encounter do not have an owner with them or the owner is at least several hundred metres away when the dog launches into attack mode as soon as it sees another dog, so asking the owner to call their dog is not an option. I have never really worried about small dogs because my BCs never saw them as any sort of threat but I did have a small foxie type sneak up and bite one dog on the back leg. Startled, my dog gave chase and the foxie ran across the road, just missed by a car. Luckily my boy was trained in an emergency drop and after me screaming drop like a banshee he dropped at the gutter of the busy road. I wouldn't be bothered by puppies under 6 months either because all my dogs have been good with puppies but anything older around the size of my dogs or larger will never get a chance to get near them again. Now I have a smaller dog as well the size I worry about will come down as well.

Definitely puppy farmers from that description. No reputable registered breeder would talk about their dogs or breeding like that. Their own stud dogs, no mention of health testing, no mention of breed standard, breeders prefix, shows, performance, only mentioning profit and there are no dogs over 5 so obviously put them down when they can no longer produce. All hallmarks of a puppy farm business. I have never heard of any registered breeder selling the whole kennel like that. Normally they would be sold and placed individually with other breeders and in pet homes if the owner has to let them go.

Absolutely agree. To me walking on or off lead is training time for my dogs not playtime and I sure as hell do not want other dogs rushing up to play when I am training mine to ignore all distractions. Off lead areas are essential for this training. I need their full concentration when they are off lead to keep them safe and under control. If you want your dog to play with others, arrange a play group but don't expect that everyone wants your dog to play with their's and take offence when your obnoxious dog is not welcome near others. If I choose to let my dogs play with others it is when I where I want it to be and certainly not where I walk them. The idiotic and selfish attitude of those who think it their right to let their dog rush at others have ruined much of the pleasure of dog ownership. As a child I walked my dog all over the district and was never approached by other dogs (except one nasty little Scottie round the corner) but now walking in the street is no longer possible due to the dogs rushing out to attack any passing dog. Now I have to drive to parks and try to pick quiet times and even then I still get the odd irresponsible owner spoil our walks by having dogs rush at us in an aggressive manner. The well trained dogs stay with their owners and do not run screaming the length of the park to attack any dog they see. Most owners are fine and keep their dogs with them, either on or off lead but there are still lots of idiot owners out there who have no control over their dogs and spoil it for everyone.

easy, the rude owners of the rude dogs would say it shouldn't be there. My nervous old girl did love her walks but those rude dogs did have the potential to ruin it for her, hence my carrying a riding crop and using it. Off lead area near a river = free for all. ETA I gave up walking this dog cause there were just too many idiots to contend with. She made do with runs with the greyhounds at the slipping track ;) Hang on, does the above mean that you would walk your girl in an off lead area, and if another dog ran up to her to "say hello" (yes rude but with no aggression) you would hit the other dog with the riding crop? I use some offlead areas but not "dog parks" unless there is no one else around. I carry a stock whip and cracking it usually deters any dogs from approaching but if they keep coming they get hit with the whip. I would like to point out that every dog that has ever run at my dogs over the years has been in full attack mode, I have had numerous dogs attacked by various breeds of different sizes so now I don't let any strange dog get anywhere near my dogs. I have never had an off lead dog approach my dogs in a friendly manner. Mine get to see plenty of dogs at shows and play with friends dogs but I will never again risk an unknown off lead dog getting close enough to attack one of mine.

I don't get the attitude on here that any normal dog that objects to a strange dog getting in it's face is called dog aggressive. Absolute rubbish. It is abnormal for a dog to welcome uninvited advances from strange dogs. A dog aggressive dog will attempt to attack any dog it sees, going out of it's way to do so but a normal dog minding it's own business has the right to be left alone by other dogs and the right to defend itself if rushed by another. That doesn't make it aggressive it makes it normal. The social butterfly ones that want to play with every dog they see are not normal as far as dog behaviour goes. I have one at the moment and have to keep him on lead to make sure he doesn't just run up to strange dogs that may not be so friendly. I have only ever seen one small fenced dog area in a park about the size of two small house blocks (I assume this is what people on here call a "dog park") and the people round here take turns using it so there are not multiple dogs in it but it is far too small to go for a decent walk and is only suitable for mid sized dogs that don't jump. The gaps under the fence make it unsuitable for littles and the fence height makes it unsafe for anything that jumps because it is near a main road. I would never allow my dogs in such a small fenced area with unknown dogs. If someone else arrives with dogs we leave. Other than that area all other off lead areas anywhere near me are simply normal public parks were dogs happen to be allowed off lead so I get extremely angry if anyone allows their dogs to run anywhere near mine if I am walking them on or off lead in these areas. My only ones that have been allowed offlead in them are those trained with perfect recall due to the risk of them running on the roads or annoying other park users. This type of park is what lilli is talking about and she has every right to walk her dog there on lead and expect to not be bothered by other dogs. There is a big difference between an "offlead area" and a little fenced in "dog park" but no matter which it is the owner's responsibility to make sure their dog does not bother any other dog or owner.

What part of "public park" and "effective control", do you not understand. Everyone has a right to walk their dog on lead in a public park without being harrassed by other dogs. If your dog is not well enough trained to come immediately when called it has no right being offlead anywhere there are other dogs or people. Why should anyone have to risk their dog running on the road because other dogs are offlead. By your theory all dogs should be off lead in an offlead area even if they do not have an effective recall, or they shouldn't be walked. That is ridiculous.

Definitely risky. If the x-ray is vital for the dog's wellbeing then they would need to cover her abdomen with a lead apron like they do with humans. I don't even like the idea of x-rays to count puppies. My vet is a repro specialist and only ever ultrasounds pregnant bitches.

Pugs are much more common, more agile in structure, not as narrow in the pelvis (compared to the puppy head size) and don't have the rising topline that the Bulldog breeds have, so overall less problems.

Absolutely agree with this. Any offlead dog needs to under effective control and it is never acceptable for an offlead dog to rush at any person or dog unless invited. It doesn't matter of it is an offlead park or not. Offlead parks are not for the exclusive use of offlead dogs. They are public parks and all the normal laws apply except it is acceptable to let a well trained dog off lead for exercise. provided it does not bother anyone else. Where on earth the idiotic idea came from that offlead parks are free for alls, where dogs can do as they like, I have no idea.

Truly submissive dogs are that way for life. It isn't a bad thing either because they never end up in a fight. Some alpha bitches (canine ones) will pin every dog they meet into a submissive position but they rarely put a mark on them. Other dogs seem to sense that they mean business and submit to them without any quarrel. My first BC bitch would put any new dog in her territory, into a submit position and hold them down by the throat. Once they relaxed she would let them up and was then happy to play. She was pack leader here until her daughter took over in later years but she never had a fight and never even looked like having a go at any other dog at shows or obedience.

Sounds dodgy to me too. Scores are usually back in about two weeks or less. They couldn't have done the x-rays when the bitch was pregnant and would have rocks in their head to do them after she whelped when all the joints are loose, so the x-rays would have been done months ago.

As a breeder, often the only way you ever find out that there is some sort of health problem in your lines is if puppy buyers let you know. This may just be the dog aging but it could be something else you haven't come across before. That doesn't make you liable for any costs but should have you researching to find out if anyone else has had related dogs with the same problem. I would tell the owners that you have never come across the problem before, recommend a second opinion in case the vet has it wrong and ask them to keep you updated. Also thank them for letting you know so you can do some investigating to see if any other breeders have come across the problem. My puppy notes point out that I cannot possibly know about problems unless the owners let me know they exist, so by informing me of any odd health problems they may be contributing to the future health of the breed.

For a fairly common breed with not a lot of recent imports, I would say yes. British Bulldogs were always one of the most expensive and about a third more expensive than Frenchies until a couple of years ago but the sudden demand for Frenchies has increased the price to about the same as the British. Some of the giant breeds have always been very expensive because of the high cost of keeping and raising them. The rarer the breed the more expensive due to the fact that the breeders have had to spend 10s of thousands on importing breeding stock. They never recoup the outlay but if others want the benefit of that outlay they should expect to pay a hefty price for it. I know when Neos were introduced they were charging about $4000 to lease a dog and you didn't even get to own it. No idea what price they are now. Some of the specialty GSDs from recent imports are also much more expensive than the locally bred ones.

Thanks for your replies. I guess it was this post that really piqued my interest: If even top class show and breeding stock are so vulnerable and require so much intervention, doesn't that speak to some sort of fundamental health issue that needs resolving? My two are working line dogs and I don't know anything about French Bulldogs which is why I'm so curious. Ideally every breed should be able to mate, whelp and raise their babies with minimal intervention but if you change the structure too drastically from that of a basic dog, there has to be consequences. Both British and French Bulldogs have spines that slope up rather than down towards the loin, and screw tails that are an extension of the spine. These are deformities of a normal spine. They also often have heads too large to pass through the mothers pelvis at birth and brachy faces that cause breathing problems and elongated soft palates. The awkward body shape and squashed face make mothering their babies a bit of a hit and miss affair as well. The breeds were developed into these shapes for reasons that no longer exist. There are only two choices for these breeds. Preserve the breeds, while trying to make them as healthy as possible with those structures or let the breeds become extinct. Australia has some of the healthiest British Bulldogs in the world and international judges often comment on how impressive it is to see dogs that still look like BBs, running around the ring looking fit and active. We even have some lines that free whelp but keeping a breed like this healthy is a lot harder than keeping a basic dog shaped breed healthy. I don't know where the better Australian bred Frenchies rank health wise with others around the world but would imagine they are probably pretty good as well. Finding DNA tests to control diseases is one thing, finding a way to make what are in effect very abnormally structured dogs healthy is another matter all together. Enthusiasts love their Bulldog breeds and I understand that and their quest to breed the best and healthiest examples that they canto preserve the breeds. What I cannot fathom is how these breeds can become so popular as pets with all the issues that go with them. The problem now is that the popularity means there are lots of people that do not understand the complexities of these breeds, jumping on the bandwagon to make a quick buck. This can only lead to lots of very unhealthy French ad British Bulldogs being bred and more ammunition for the anti-purebred dog campaigners.

Strange they didn't try the antivenine. A friends BC has just survived a brown snake bite. She had no symptoms until 12-20 hours after being bitten, then suddenly became completely paralysed. She was given 2 doses of antivenene and spent 5 days on a drip and has survived with no ill affects.

It depends on how many litters a year the breeders have. If they average 3-4 litters or more per year then you wouldn't need to contact them until the year you want a puppy but if like many show breeders, they only breed one litter every 3 years or so , then get in early and let them know you may be interested when they have their next litter.

The worst shedders are anything with a short double coat and they seem to shed one hair at a time, 365 days a year. So GSDs, Labs, Corgis, Pugs are all major shedders. I have owned a Lab and will never own another dog with sort of coat again. Long coat Shepherds have a different texture coat that should only have a major shed twice a year like all the other double long coats such as Collies, BC, Aussies and most Spitz breeds. The long coats come out in clumps that are much easier to remove from clothes and furniture than the individual short hairs.

Get a chest x-ray asap. The only symptom of lung cancer is sometimes an intermittent cough.

Get a saddler to make you a really soft narrow bridle leather collar with the smallest buckle you can get away with. Then make sure you keep it clean and soft with saddle soap and leather dressing. If she is inside at night then take it off at night. I imagine just about anything would rub on the fine coat of a Pointer.

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